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pbrower2a
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« on: March 14, 2012, 04:26:46 PM »

NH,VA,NC,FL,OH,IN,MO,CO,NV,PA, IA, AZ

PA -- if Romney is the nominee
IA
CO
NH
NV
OH
PA -- if Santorum is the nominee
VA
FL
NC
AZ
IN
MO
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2012, 11:10:55 PM »

NH,VA,NC,FL,OH,IN,MO,CO,NV,PA, IA, AZ

Gas prices have doubled under Obama and he can't blame Bush for that so I don't think any of those will go blue in the fall.

PA
IA
NH
NV
CO
OH
VA
FL
OH
MO
NC
IN

Voters seem not to be holding the President accountable for oil prices. What matters more is the Iranian nuke program that can really mess things up for America.

Speculative booms in commodities can always go bust.
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2012, 07:06:15 PM »

IN and AZ shouldnt even be on the list, those are likely REP right now.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_AZ_0222.pdf

47-47 / 47-46 does not count as "likely REP".
Once Romney becomes nominee, expect the gap to widen.
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On the average, an incumbent Governor or Senator adds roughly 6% to his approval rating before the campaign season begins to get a likely share of the vote in a binary election. (This rules out contests in which there is a strong Third Party candidate who mucks the model up).  Such implies average competence of an incumbent as a politician and campaigner from then on, and opponents of average quality.

Breaking scandals? Voters usually find the incumbent aloof and inaccessible, usually resulting in a low approval rating before the campaign.

Opponents can carp all that they want while they challenge the details of the incumbent's record -- and the incumbent can't please everyone. Every incumbent politician is obliged to take sides on issues that displease at least 45% of the public -- or else dodge the issue and fail to do the job. Our elected officials very rarely vote on "rainbows and sunshine" but instead vote between irreconcilable options.

Once the campaign begins, most incumbents show why they were elected to the office that they hold. If those were the wrong reasons this time but the right ones the previous time, then the incumbent probably loses -- which shows up before the campaign season anyway. We already see that with many current Representatives. Sure, it's possible to ride a wave, but a wise surfer knows when to abandon the surfboard.

The high disapproval rating shows people who also disapprove of the eventual Republican nominee. So how does one vote when one likes neither? One either can't decide and somehow doesn't vote, votes based upon some random event (like a coin toss) -- and that evens out over a large number of people, or perhaps wastes one's vote on an independent or third-Party nominee.

At this point I would have to give President Obama a slightly-better-than-average chance of winning Arizona. Things still have to break right for him. Of course he loses the state if he doesn't campaign there. There will be an open Senate seat.

But I can say this: President Obama is an above-average campaigner; he has an agenda attractive to slightly more than half the US population; any one of the remaining Republican challengers looks far short of Ronald Reagan as a challenger. If he were a below-average campaigner and faced a strong challenger he would lose all but three of the states on the list (probably three of CO, IA, NH, and PA)... and we would see that already. He would have an approval rating around 40% and Democrats would say "This and this and this and this and this must happen and then the President would have a chance to be re-elected". That's like saying that if a bunch of things go right someone with a 2.9 high school GPA and mediocre college-board scores in a public high could get a chance to attend Harvard.        
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 02:23:35 PM »

PA --Romney has nothing to offer that any Republican hasn't already offered. Santorum? Someone is going to remind PA why it voted him out of the US Senate in 2006.
IA --  President Obama has done nothing to lose the state.
CO -- GOP disaster largely due to the rapidly-growing Hispanic presence.
NH -- Republicans  could win the state if they decide to spend all their resources in New Hampshire. There are 533 others.
OH -- President Obama saved the auto industry. Enough said.
NV -- But he can't resurrect the housing industry. Still the state will be flooded with campaign operatives from ultra-safe California.
VA -- Large black population; lots of government employees and contractors who know how their bread is buttered. Becoming a Northern State.
NC -- A real surprise in 2008, but clearly drifting D.
FL -- Large Hispanic population even if it is heavily Cuban. It's no longer enough for Republicans to say "I HATE FIDEL CASTRO", especially as Castro becomes less important than the environment, education, and employment.
MO -- Tough Senate seat to defend; this will attract attention from President Obama. Expect the Obama campaign to flood Missouri with campaign staff from Texas (where it is likely to be irrelevant in a loss) and sure-win states in the Midwest. President Obama may still be the worst possible Democrat for winning the Appalachian/Ozark white vote, but if he can pick that up he has a 450+ landslide in the Electoral College because he would then pick up Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, and maybe Texas. 
AZ -- GOP is going nuts. Subtract 10% from John McCain's substandard win of 2008 and President Obama wins. 10% is roughly the average gain for a Favorite Son, and that makes the state close. Expect about every Arizona voter of Mexican origin to vote straight-D.
IN -- 2008 may have been a one-time fluke for President Obama. But he did save the auto industry even if that isn't quite as important in Indiana as in Ohio. Democrats could put a huge amount of money into Indiana in the event that the venerable Senator Lugar is tea-bagged.         

 
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