Obama and Maher

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ISKQD7ytSk

Obama can be the billion dollar man with as much money as he's going to raise and Maher can be the million dollar man. So much for "leading by example." Now the Democrats on this forum can pee their pants over this ad and whine about the GOP. Go!

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A very well presented video...

What part of the state are you from?

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Orlando first, but moving to Jacksonville within the next year. Check the other one I put up about gas prices on this 2012 forum.

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Might be effective fundraiser by using the implied Rush Limbaugh-as-victim card but don't see how what Bill Maher and David Letterman did is connected to Obama, even if it were offensive which I don't really see.

You don't see how donating a million dollars to Obama is connected to Obama?

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To cut through the minutia.

1. None of Maher's statements justify Limbaugh's.

2. None of Limbaugh's statements justify Maher's.

3. Limbaugh was out of line to repeatedly attack a woman for speaking out on the subject of birth control in such a manner. It was deeply offensive and his apology made it clear he doesn't understand the level of how wrong he was to use such an attack.

4. Maher has accepted Limbaugh's apology, which suggests he doesn't understand the level of offense Limbaugh has made.

5. 3 and 4 suggest that both are at some level ignorant twerps.

6. Maher's insults of Palin range from acceptable (calling Palin an idiot), to unacceptable (MILF comments are dumb), to out of bounds (going into family territory).

7. If you don't like Maher's comments, launch a campaign to get him off the air. Else deal.

8. Thanks to that lovely Supreme Court thing, if either Maher or Limbaugh want to give their money to super pacs to destroy their political opponents, then they can. Making it so they can't is a separate issues than who is a bigger jackass.

9. No one working for the Obama campaign can ask the pro-Obama pac to give the money back, to refuse it, or to give it to charity, as that would be a sign of collusion. So Obama can't really do anything to distance himself from Maher in any official capacity, just as Romney or Santorum couldn't do the same. So its kind of a moot point.

10. Finally... shock jocks like Maher and Limbaugh only exist because we pay them attention. If you don't like either one, perhaps you should step away from the one (or ones) on your side and find a source of information that isn't a misogynistic dweeb.

All you're doing is chanting the partisan line. I wish Limbaugh could get away with calling Michelle Obama the things that Maher called Palin. If we lived in that kind of world, the world would be a better place. I'll give you that they only exist for those who pay attention to a degree. Giving money to Obama expands his existence though. Shame on Obama for taking this money. So much for setting a good example. Did you even see the video?

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All you're doing is chanting the partisan line. I wish Limbaugh could get away with calling Michelle Obama the things that Maher called Palin. If we lived in that kind of world, the world would be a better place. I'll give you that they only exist for those who pay attention to a degree. Giving money to Obama expands his existence though. Shame on Obama for taking this money. So much for setting a good example. Did you even see the video?

That was seriously the least partisan comment in this whole topic. Did you just look at his state avatar color? Limbaugh can't get away with calling Michelle Obama that because he decides to air his show from 12 PM - 3 PM, Monday through Friday across airwaves that freely broadcast to virtually everyone in the country.

Bill Maher is hosted by HBO, a subscription service whose sole existence is to allow comedians and actors to do and say things that they cannot do on any other network. Bill Maher's show comes on on Friday Nights at 9PM.

Rush Limbaugh literally cannot say the things Bill Maher can, because he chooses a different broadcasting medium (one that is far more profitable, just to clarify). Rush has made his choice and must abide by the regulations of his chosen schedule and affiliates.

Aside from regulations which wasn't what I was referring to, Bill Maher still said it. If that were Limbaugh at any hour, he'd be off the air or radio. Maher gets a pass from NBC and the liberal media.

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But that's all that matters. Limbaugh would be off the air, but only at the hands of the right-wing FEC in the event he said something like that. Although, are the words "c*nt" and "sl*t" really that different?

Rush Limbaugh isn't under any more actual pressure at this point than Bill Maher; the left is calling for Limbaugh to leave and the right is calling for Maher to leave.

Rush Limbaugh knows that he cannot say that. Rush Limbaugh can say what he said about Sandra Fluke and did, and it was no more moral than what Maher said. Rush Limbaugh has no trouble or fear from saying things that are immoral; he simply can't say things that are illegal within the confines of his trade .

It's like saying there's a double standard when you cuss at work and get in trouble because your wife lets you cuss at home.

The double standard is in the liberal media. They're not saying anything about regulations and they give you the impression that Rush Limbaugh is a right wing biggot. Meanwhile Maher gets a pass. What Maher said was much more offensive in my take. I'm sure people will see me as bias for thinking so because I'm a conservative. Obama should still give the money back and disassociate himself with Bill Maher but I don't think Obama is experienced enough to do that in order to prevent ads like the one I posted.

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The double standard is in the liberal media. They're not saying anything about regulations and they give you the impression that Rush Limbaugh is a right wing biggot. Meanwhile Maher gets a pass. What Maher said was much more offensive in my take. I'm sure people will see me as bias for thinking so because I'm a conservative. Obama should still give the money back and disassociate himself with Bill Maher but I don't think Obama is experienced enough to do that in order to prevent ads like the one I posted.

And the lack of Rush's indictment is apparent in the conservative media. The 'liberals' don't magically own every single news and media outlet. Fox News, the conservative dominion, consistently outranks CNN & MSNBC combined for viewership. Do you know what the most widely circulated newspaper in the country is? The Wall Street Journal. There's plenty of double standards in the conservative media.

You're right about the bias within the separate realms of media. You're wrong about the feeling that the 'liberal media' has an infinitely-larger say over the matter within the overall conservation than the 'conservative media' does in the same regard.

What you've said is true. Viewership of Fox and purchases of the Wall Street Journal being higher shows that people are fed up with the dinosaur media. People watch Fox more because they agree with it more. In today's day and age no one that I can imagine comes home and puts on the 6:00p.m. news in order to find out what happened each day. If anything, they know what's going to be on because they've gotten text updates or heard from people who read news events online or they read it themselves or heard it on talk radio. What is known as mainstream media has lost its effectiveness. Also, I would like to point out that programs on Fox such as O'Reilly, Hannity, and Beck are not media! They are commentaries. Those who run such shows aren't jounalists or reporters either, but commentators. Anyone can watch them and realize they're just commentating on events. When someone watches the dinosaur media at 6:00p.m., they are more susceptible to be swayed because it's news being reported. Now I did mention a minute ago that people don't watch it like they used to and it has lost its effectiveness over the last 20 years. Maybe I'm being melodramatic in order to gain sympathy for conservatives a little bit here.

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Conservatives will be very confused in November when Obama still wins women by a big margin.

Fundamentally, it is about policy and impact on womens' lives.

Maher called individual women names, but he isn't the leader of the Democratic Party and isn't advocating a policy that would do anything negative to women.

Rush, who really is the leader of the conservative movement, if not the Republican Party, attacked policies providing women access to health-care. He denigrated all women who use birth control, which is to say, nearly all women in the country.

Yet conservatives think it was nothing but the name-calling that got everyone upset. They don't see how women's liberation relies heavily on government handouts to make them non-dependent on a man's financial support. As long as the Democrats support more government funding for things women want, women will continue to vote Democrat.

Blacks might very well vote 98-2 for the reelection of Barack Obama, but, would that whitewash Bill Maher calling Herman Cain the N-word?

That happened in 2008 but isn't necessarily the case for 2012. Remember last time was the very first time that we could have a black president and even conservative blacks voted for him because of it. To say that a certain race will vote based on the color of someone's skin is misleading. The same should be said with women wanting free handouts. I can crack all the jokes I want about women mooching off of their husbands but alot of women are offended when they're singled out as if they're different from the average voter.

As for the liberal media, I've said what the case is and anyone who is capable of watching and observing each network can tell which way they are slanted. Yea I get it Fox leans to the right.

When it comes to Super Pacs, most posters on this forum seem to be sophisticated enough to understand that they're nothing more than a way around having to admit to one's dirty politics. Democrats hammered Mitt Romney for not telling the Super Pacs to stop airing commercials that were misleading but now Obama can't "legally give back the money?" Give me a break. Let's all grow up and admit that the candidates have the power and status to stop a Super Pac or at least stand up to one publicly. I still haven't heard Obama criticize Maher for what he said about Palin.

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Don't look to Maher for leadership? Could've fooled me. LOL

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Don't look to Maher for leadership? Could've fooled me. LOL

Well his views on Islam for example are more consistent with those of the GOP than with Democrats.  And his views on religion more broadly, fit neither party, each of which is majority Christian.

Oh yes Bill Maher is so conservative and right in line with the GOP on Islam. How is this so? He hates religion period.