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Tidewater_Wave
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2008 McCain/Romney vs. Obama/Biden
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Romney would've helped McCain but wouldn't have put him over the top. Also, I don't see them getting along enough to be on the ticket together.
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Jerseyrules
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Re: 2008 McCain/Romney vs. Obama/Biden
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March 14, 2012, 10:48:56 pm »
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 14, 2012, 08:49:15 pm
Romney would've helped McCain but wouldn't have put him over the top. Also, I don't see them getting along enough to be on the ticket together.
Heh, no. Palin was an asset, propelling McCain from being down by 15 points in July to up by 5 in September.
Alabama
(and alaska for that matter) was a swing state
. Still only lost by 7, and that's after a few nasty interviews. All in all, watch
Game Change
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Tidewater_Wave
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Re: 2008 McCain/Romney vs. Obama/Biden
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March 15, 2012, 12:32:13 am »
Quote from: Jerseyrules on March 14, 2012, 10:48:56 pm
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 14, 2012, 08:49:15 pm
Romney would've helped McCain but wouldn't have put him over the top. Also, I don't see them getting along enough to be on the ticket together.
Heh, no. Palin was an asset, propelling McCain from being down by 15 points in July to up by 5 in September.
Alabama
(and alaska for that matter) was a swing state
. Still only lost by 7, and that's after a few nasty interviews. All in all, watch
Game Change
.
I remember McCain being even with Obama and Clinton until Obama had clinched the nomination in late June. After that he was 3-5 points ahead of McCain until he picked Palin which gave McCain a 4-6 point lead until the housing market collapse. All in all, I don't really think that many people pay attention to the VP nominee and wouldn't put it as even being a top 25 issue. Still, I think Romney would've helped just enough to make it a 51-48 race or so.
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Jerseyrules
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Re: 2008 McCain/Romney vs. Obama/Biden
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March 17, 2012, 01:27:11 am »
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 15, 2012, 12:32:13 am
Quote from: Jerseyrules on March 14, 2012, 10:48:56 pm
Quote from: Tidewater_Wave on March 14, 2012, 08:49:15 pm
Romney would've helped McCain but wouldn't have put him over the top. Also, I don't see them getting along enough to be on the ticket together.
Heh, no. Palin was an asset, propelling McCain from being down by 15 points in July to up by 5 in September.
Alabama
(and alaska for that matter) was a swing state
. Still only lost by 7, and that's after a few nasty interviews. All in all, watch
Game Change
.
I remember McCain being even with Obama and Clinton until Obama had clinched the nomination in late June. After that he was 3-5 points ahead of McCain until he picked Palin which gave McCain a 4-6 point lead until the housing market collapse. All in all, I don't really think that many people pay attention to the VP nominee and wouldn't put it as even being a top 25 issue. Still, I think Romney would've helped just enough to make it a 51-48 race or so.
People don't
usually
pay attention. That's why she was a "game change"
. Anyway, she was an asset, as she is now, because of her general likability in person and her great speaking skills (one-on-one is where she ran into trouble). MittBot didn't/doesn't have those things going for him. He's not a great "rally the troops" guy, and McCain was already running into trouble with the base thinking he wasn't a real conservative; the Massachusetts Moderate wouldn't help.
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Re: 2008 McCain/Romney vs. Obama/Biden
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March 17, 2012, 02:47:03 pm »
Obama/Biden (Democratic): 421 EV
McCain/Romney (Republican): 117 EV
2008 was the worst environment for an incumbent party to run in since 1932 and the GOP Ticket of McCain and Romney would have been crushed because no one could get excited about that. Palin, despite the myths, saved the perennially unlikable McCain from the above scenario. I could see McCain/Ridge or McCain/Lieberman (which I think were the top two choices of the senile Arizonan) winning four or five states, so Romney was probably the second best choice after Palin.
Too many McCain staffers have decided to spin the fact that they could not run a campaign by blaming Palin, whom all the hopes of the campaign were pinned on, for losing the race. The fact is McCain was selling a ketchup Popsicle and Palin was almost able to sell it to the American people. That's some talent that one has to be born with.
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Jax27
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Re: 2008 McCain/Romney vs. Obama/Biden
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March 18, 2012, 10:56:04 am »
I can't agree with that map. Alabama is about as sure as any state to go Republican. Palin cost and helped McCain so I think it evened out as far as she goes. She was a game changer, but it didn't last long after the housing market collapsed. Alaska is another safe GOP state.
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Quote from: thrillr1111 on March 19, 2012, 10:20:07 pm
the reason why mccain didn't choose romney in 2008 is because both of them would of owned 18 houses total.
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Quote from: thrillr1111 on March 19, 2012, 10:20:07 pm
the reason why mccain didn't choose romney in 2008 is because both of them would of owned 18 houses total.
It was the gaffe where McCain couldn't remember how many houses he owned that put Romney out of consideration.
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Quote from: GPORTER on April 01, 2012, 01:28:11 pm
Quote from: thrillr1111 on March 19, 2012, 10:20:07 pm
the reason why mccain didn't choose romney in 2008 is because both of them would of owned 18 houses total.
It was the gaffe where McCain couldn't remember how many houses he owned that put Romney out of consideration.
Although Romney's corporate connections would very likely have hurt the campaign in the home stretch. Dems would have pounced.
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Re: 2008 McCain/Romney vs. Obama/Biden
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Quote from: CultureKing on April 01, 2012, 07:57:17 pm
Quote from: GPORTER on April 01, 2012, 01:28:11 pm
Quote from: thrillr1111 on March 19, 2012, 10:20:07 pm
the reason why mccain didn't choose romney in 2008 is because both of them would of owned 18 houses total.
It was the gaffe where McCain couldn't remember how many houses he owned that put Romney out of consideration.
Dems would have pounced.
Whats new...
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Jerseyrules
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Re: 2008 McCain/Romney vs. Obama/Biden
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April 21, 2012, 03:49:13 pm »
Quote from: GPORTER on April 11, 2012, 07:00:04 am
Quote from: CultureKing on April 01, 2012, 07:57:17 pm
Quote from: GPORTER on April 01, 2012, 01:28:11 pm
Quote from: thrillr1111 on March 19, 2012, 10:20:07 pm
the reason why mccain didn't choose romney in 2008 is because both of them would of owned 18 houses total.
It was the gaffe where McCain couldn't remember how many houses he owned that put Romney out of consideration.
Dems would have pounced.
Whats new...
So true... Poor Mitt. No pun intended
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