China General Discussion

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Of course nothing will come of this, still F-ed up.

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The article then goes on and on (and on) about the DoD's lack of cybersecurity for some reason.  Weird article all around.  Weird that news of a possible coup in the capital of one of the most important countries in the world took so long to get "out".  Weird that nobody is making a bigger deal out of this.  Weird that the article itself doesn't seem to make a big deal out of it.

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In sorta PRC related news, Japan is preparing for the possibility of shooting down the Norks missile they (the Norks) plan on testing next month.  A PAC-3* is on it's way to Okinawa as we speak.


*modern Patriot missile defense system....much more advanced than the one that made the name (in)famous in Gulf War I


In other, sorta related to PRC news, the S.Koreans and the US are looking at increasing the range of offensive missiles the S.Koreans posses.  Apparently they are currently limited to the 300km range and will likely soon change the agreement to allow them to have a 1000km range.  The reason given is that the Norks posses weapons that can reach all of S.Korea so they feel the S.Koreans should have the same ability against the north.

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I concur.  I've heard talk of purges.  A guy on another MB I read suggested as many as 52, including Bo.  Do you have any new details?

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Weird that the "hardliners" are bing purged by, at least in theory, the more....liberal group.  Usually it works the other way around.  Those with the pull know who butters their bread, and it ain't old Reds (or new Reds trying to bring Red back in fashion).

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Philippine, Chinese ships face off near Spratlys

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It's good to see the Philippine Navy sticking it's biggest/best/newest ship out there.  I hope the PLA doesn't push the issue to try to cover up the BS happening back home, but if they do, I'm certain the rest of the people in the neighborhood plus the USA will teach them a lesson in not beind a dick to your neighbors.

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Why would the countries with good claims to the Spratlys concede anything to the PRC?  The Paracels, sure, share the wealth, but not the Spratlys.

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So you think they should get ALL the Paracels AND get a share of the Spratleys?  You've seen the map right? 

I do agree that Vietnam's claim is ALMOST as absurd as the PRC's (there is that faint praise thing again).  The PRC's claim the Spratleys because some old chinese pottery washed up on shore there once, do we really want to have that set some kind of precedence?  I'm sure there are some old Roman coins around Cyprus, should they share oil revenue with Italy?

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Like it or not, the PRC de facto controls all the Paracels and a good section of the Spratlys. In both cases this occurred after Chinese naval victories against Vietnam (South Vietnam in 1974, all Vietnam in 1988), which the KMT in Taiwan explicitly didn't impede when their SOP was to sink any PLAN vessels.

The people that are for a return to the pre-67 borders for a new Palestinian state aren't going to like that train of thought.  But I'll concede here that the PRC could share in any resources found around the Spratleys.

How do you feel about the current situation in the Scarborough Shoal?  And other issues with Chinese fishermen fishing in waters that clearly are not theirs?

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Change of command for the PLA's 2nd Artillery (the group that controls the much talked about anti-ship missiles and the nukes).  link

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China starts "combat ready" patrols in disputed seas
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Also reports out of Philippines are saying that there are Chinese fisherman on the Scarborough Shoal again.

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Thousands in Hong Kong protest China patriotism classes

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China summons US diplomat in South China Sea row

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If the PRC ends up going to war with anybody over this, they are fools and only have themselves to blame for the ass kicking they are going to receive.

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Protests in Vietnam as anger over China's 'bullying' grows

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Increasingly outspoken military alarms China's leaders

(good lord what a horrible looking url inside that "link")

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Six China ships near disputed isles: Japan coastguard

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It probably won't, but this could escalate quickly.

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The PRC still doesn't understand how our Freedom of Speech works.

Oregon town angers China with controversial mural

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At least they ain't killing ambassadors.

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Japan warns nationals in China after assaults

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One can't cover up riot control in the big cities like one does in the countryside.

They've certainly done it before.  And it's not out of the realm of possibility that these demonstrations are state sponsored.

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So they are like Egypt then, with much of the populace clamoring for a war the leaders know they'd lose.

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Indian, Chinese soldiers face off

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Beijing hints at bond attack on Japan

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China warns Philippines against shooting down drones

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