The GOP War on Women - The Megathread

[Vosem]

ME GOP Candidate: The fact that I've been jailed for beating my wife multiple times, and haven't admitted to it, proves how much guts and integrity I have

This is like saying Fred Phelps is a Democrat...it's true on the surface, but it doesn't represent the party whatsoever.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

ME GOP Candidate: The fact that I've been jailed for beating my wife multiple times, and haven't admitted to it, proves how much guts and integrity I have

This is like saying Fred Phelps is a Democrat...it's true on the surface, but it doesn't represent the party whatsoever.

...Which is not what I was suggesting.

[Vosem]

ME GOP Candidate: The fact that I've been jailed for beating my wife multiple times, and haven't admitted to it, proves how much guts and integrity I have

This is like saying Fred Phelps is a Democrat...it's true on the surface, but it doesn't represent the party whatsoever.

...Which is not what I was suggesting.

What else is suggested by posting a link like that in the thread entitled 'The GOP War on Women'? I'm not trying to be confrontational, I legitimately can't tell.

[Ban my account ffs!]

ME GOP Candidate: The fact that I've been jailed for beating my wife multiple times, and haven't admitted to it, proves how much guts and integrity I have

This is like saying Fred Phelps is a Democrat...it's true on the surface, but it doesn't represent the party whatsoever.

...Which is not what I was suggesting.

What else is suggested by posting a link like that in the thread entitled 'The GOP War on Women'? I'm not trying to be confrontational, I legitimately can't tell.

The guy is a batterer.  He beats his wife.  He's running as a Republican and trying to play the unapologetic for being a piece of sh**t card.

It's another example of self described Republicans treating women badly... and there is a lot of recent, valid precedent in that category.

Quit defending wife beaters, Vosem.  And get rid of these people in your party.  We don't want Fred Phelps in our party.  And the way we prove he's not really a Democrat is by treating LGBTs with respect and dignity and equity.

[pbrower2a]

ME GOP Candidate: The fact that I've been jailed for beating my wife multiple times, and haven't admitted to it, proves how much guts and integrity I have

This is like saying Fred Phelps is a Democrat...it's true on the surface, but it doesn't represent the party whatsoever.

...Which is not what I was suggesting.

What else is suggested by posting a link like that in the thread entitled 'The GOP War on Women'? I'm not trying to be confrontational, I legitimately can't tell.

Spousal battery is a crime. We don't need criminals as leaders. 

[Vosem]

ME GOP Candidate: The fact that I've been jailed for beating my wife multiple times, and haven't admitted to it, proves how much guts and integrity I have

This is like saying Fred Phelps is a Democrat...it's true on the surface, but it doesn't represent the party whatsoever.

...Which is not what I was suggesting.

What else is suggested by posting a link like that in the thread entitled 'The GOP War on Women'? I'm not trying to be confrontational, I legitimately can't tell.

The guy is a batterer.  He beats his wife.  He's running as a Republican and trying to play the unapologetic for being a piece of sh**t card.

Phelps did something similar in Kansas Democratic primaries in the 1990s -- it didn't work then and it won't work now. Besides, I'm quite confident that he isn't about to get much support from other Republicans:

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It's another example of self described Republicans treating women badly... and there is a lot of recent, valid precedent in that category.

Can't think of anyone who comes even close to this guy -- in fact the only person I can think of who 'treated women badly' is desJarlais (though you're welcome to correct me if there're more examples, I suppose). Certainly some Republicans have voiced some pretty horrible views (Akin comes to mind as a particularly egregious, prominent example), but I don't think many have actually assaulted women like this guy.

Quit defending wife beaters, Vosem.

How is comparing someone to Fred Phelps defense? I'm defending the Maine GOP, but surely you can tell it would be gross lying to call the Maine GOP 'wife-beaters'.

  And get rid of these people in your party.

If someone told me how, I'd go do it right now.

  We don't want Fred Phelps in our party.

We don't want Erick Bennett in our party either. Have you read the article?

  And the way we prove he's not really a Democrat is by treating LGBTs with respect and dignity and equity.

The thing is, in the US, self-identification is what determines what party you're in. If Phelps says he's a Democrat, he is. But, you're right in the broader sense that he is far out of step with the remainder of the party and has no chance of being nominated or elected to anything, ever. This guy is the same way (except less notorious).

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Ken Buck: Yes, I am pro-life. While I understand a woman wants to be in control of her body — it’s certainly the feeling that I had when I was a cancer patient, I wanted to be in control of the decisions that were made concerning my body — there is another fundamental issue at stake. And that’s the life of the unborn child.

[Deus Naturae]

Ken Buck: Yes, I am pro-life. While I understand a woman wants to be in control of her body — it’s certainly the feeling that I had when I was a cancer patient, I wanted to be in control of the decisions that were made concerning my body — there is another fundamental issue at stake. And that’s the life of the unborn child.

The title of that article is a false assumption. Just because someone says that two situations are similar, that does not mean that they are saying that all aspects of those situations are similar.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Ken Buck: Yes, I am pro-life. While I understand a woman wants to be in control of her body — it’s certainly the feeling that I had when I was a cancer patient, I wanted to be in control of the decisions that were made concerning my body — there is another fundamental issue at stake. And that’s the life of the unborn child.

The title of that article is a false assumption. Just because someone says that two situations are similar, that does not mean that they are saying that all aspects of those situations are similar.

Okay, hopefully this is the last time I have to explain this.  News article titles are meant to exaggerate and stretch the truth.  That's how it grabs readers' attention.  This only becomes a problem if readers just look at the title of the story and read no further, because that's just being lazy.  Can we please stop distracting from the main point with these petty nitpicks?

[Joe Republic]

Virginia State Sen. Steve Martin (R) continues the outreach:

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[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Virginia State Sen. Steve Martin (R) continues the outreach:

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So where's the fire?  Or is it sufficient now to think that a human life begins at conception to be waging war on women? (I don't agree with that viewpoint, but I can't see where holding it makes one a warrior against women either.)  If he'd made the revised post originally, I suspect the same people who are lambasting him for using the word "host" would be lambasting him for using the phrase "bearer of the child" since in their view, what is inside the mother isn't a child until it is born.  So O great sage, I ask you, how can one phrase what Martin is trying to say so as to avoid causing offense to those who are pro-abortion?

[Joe Republic]

Maybe not describing women as inanimate human factories?  Oh but "some refer to them as mothers" so I guess it was ok.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Maybe not describing women as inanimate human factories?  Oh but "some refer to them as mothers" so I guess it was ok.

I agree with Martin that his use of the word "host" was intended as sarcasm of the pro-abortion position that the product can be pulled from the assembly area for disposal at any time before final delivery.  Since that hits a bit too close to the mark, no wonder it is getting a backlash who favor allowing abortion at any stage of pregnancy.

But back to my question O great sage.  It was "How can one phrase what Martin is trying to say so as to avoid causing offense to those who are pro-abortion?" and not "Why do you think how Martin phrased what he said caused offense to those who are pro-abortion?"

[Joe Republic]

"O great sage".  "Pro-abortion".

3/10

[afleitch]

3/10

You're too kind.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

"O great sage".  "Pro-abortion".

3/10

Only 3 out of 10 on the outrage meter?  I was aiming for a 5 or 6.  Enough to stir some indignation without veering into complete trollery.  After all, I'm not really in either the anti-choice or the pro-abortion camps, but like most Americans, in between the two poles of this issue.

[Joe Republic]

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[Joe Republic]

You're an R-TX.  It would take too long to explain.  I'd have to start with 'Women Also Being Human 101', and I just don't have time to go over it.

[Хahar 🤔]

Isn't explaining what this whole thread is for?

[Randy Bobandy]

You're an R-TX.  It would take too long to explain.  I'd have to start with 'Women Also Being Human 101', and I just don't have time to go over it.

Having an R or D by your User is completely irrelevant. Explain this "War on Women" that liberals have used to brainwash some women.

Republican opposition to safe and legal abortions, ease of access to contraception, etc.

[7,052,770]

You're an R-TX.  It would take too long to explain.  I'd have to start with 'Women Also Being Human 101', and I just don't have time to go over it.

Having an R or D by your User is completely irrelevant. Explain this "War on Women" that liberals have used to brainwash some women.

So any woman who feels that the Republicans don't represent women's interests is just "brainwashed" ?   Wow...

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Do the attacks and boycotts against Condoleeza Rice count as part of the liberals war on women?

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

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Bolded two specifications that make this entire line of argument not only wrong but completely meaningless, except maybe as a criticism of 'the world's great philosophical traditions' and 'the estimation of historians of philosophy'--or, of course, as in this case, an exercise in misogyny.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

How dare that misogynist talk about my Ayn in some terms!

[Gass3268]

Do the attacks and boycotts against Condoleeza Rice count as part of the liberals war on women?

She's a war criminal, so no.