Puerto Rico-Republican Primary

[Lincoln Republican]

My feelings on statehood have been reinforced tonight. These results are literally unbelievable for so many reasons.

These results are literally unbelievable only for those who still embrace the fantasy that Republicans would ever actually pick Santorum as their standard bearer.

[Minnesota Mike]

Not that it matters when one candidate is getting 80%+ of the vote but the polls have been closed for nearly 7 hours and we only have 57% of the vote in? Did the fly in the vote counting team from Nevada?

[tpfkaw]

[Lincoln Republican]

Reported for spreading hate propaganda.

[tpfkaw]

Reported for spreading hate propaganda.

Isn't there a rule that anything you quote and report won't get infracted?

[Joe Republic]

He didn't even report it...

[RI]

He didn't even report it...

Winfield does that a lot.

[Lincoln Republican]

Not serious about reporting, as others have done with me, but seriously Wormy, your use of Nazi propaganda with reference to Romney is entirely out of line and completely inappropriate.

[Eraserhead]

Hilarious.

[ag]

Well, on the page of the "Comisión Estatal de Elecciones", there is

Primarias Locales 2012 PNP
Primarias Locales 2012 PPD
Primaria Especial Senado PNP
Primarias Partido Republicano 2012.

No Democrats.

That doesn't answer my question.  The reason there are no Democrats is because Obama's nomination is not contested. But there is a quirk in the local party system that makes it a bit strange.

PPD is a pro-Commonwealth (pro-status quo) party, which is, essentially an affiliate of the (US) Democratic party - among its members the Republican supporters are either negligible or non-existent. However, the pro-statehood PNP is mixed: it's a coalition of those who in national politics think of themselves as Republicans and of pro-statehood Democrats. So, my question was, whether a PNP member, who would be showing up for the PNP caucus to select PNP candiates for local offices, but who is self-identified as a Democrat for the purposes of the US politics, would still vote in a Republican presidential election with his fellow PNP members, or would he only vote for the local candidates. It's a kind of a strange local PR version of the question, whether the caucus is open or closed ))

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Sadly it doesn't look like Karger will beat Gingrich.  I'm glad he didn't place last though.  It's pretty cool that he beat Paul.

[MaxQue]

Well, on the page of the "Comisión Estatal de Elecciones", there is

Primarias Locales 2012 PNP
Primarias Locales 2012 PPD
Primaria Especial Senado PNP
Primarias Partido Republicano 2012.

No Democrats.

That doesn't answer my question.  The reason there are no Democrats is because Obama's nomination is not contested. But there is a quirk in the local party system that makes it a bit strange.

PPD is a pro-Commonwealth (pro-status quo) party, which is, essentially an affiliate of the (US) Democratic party - among its members the Republican supporters are either negligible or non-existent. However, the pro-statehood PNP is mixed: it's a coalition of those who in national politics think of themselves as Republicans and of pro-statehood Democrats. So, my question was, whether a PNP member, who would be showing up for the PNP caucus to select PNP candiates for local offices, but who is self-identified as a Democrat for the purposes of the US politics, would still vote in a Republican presidential election with his fellow PNP members, or would he only vote for the local candidates. It's a kind of a strange local PR version of the question, whether the caucus is open or closed ))

CNN is saying than voters had a to sign a document saying than they approved the Republican values and ideology. So, open, to that condition.

[tpfkaw]

Romney is actually doing poorly by historical standards.

(And yes, the primaries were still competitive at that point, I checked...)

[Eraserhead]

Romney is actually doing poorly by historical standards.

(And yes, the primaries were still competitive at that point, I checked...)

Even Putin could only dream of such results.

[Meeker]

In fact:

2000: Bush wins with 94%
2008: McCain wins with 90%

If any of us had bothered to look back at the historic results a blowout for the establishment frontrunner should've been obvious.

[Eraserhead]

The question remains though: why the hell did Santorum campaign here?

[Volrath50]

The question remains though: why the hell did Santorum campaign here?

The best explanation seems to be: he genuinely wanted a vacation.

[ajb]

The question remains though: why the hell did Santorum campaign here?

This. If he was going to lose anyway, why not make it look like he lost on principle?


http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/santorum-blames-statehood-position-for-puerto-rico-loss

[RI]

In fact:

2000: Bush wins with 94%
2008: McCain wins with 90%

If any of us had bothered to look back at the historic results a blowout for the establishment frontrunner should've been obvious.

To the best of my knowledge, there have only been two genuinely competetive presidential primaries/caucuses in the history of Puerto Rico--three if you include 2008 for the Dems, which wasn't that close. The two competetive contests were in 1980 between Carter and Kennedy and in 1988 when Jackson won with >30%. Everything else has been a massive blowout.

2008 Dem: Clinton 68.42%, Obama 31.58%
2008 Rep: McCain 90.38%, Huckabee 4.81%, Paul 4.33%
2000 Rep: Bush 94.21%, McCain 5.29%
1996 Rep: Dole 97.99%
1992 Dem: Clinton 95.86%, Kerrey 1.43%, Brown 1.42%
1988 Dem: Jackson 31.98%, Dukakis 25.78%, Simon 21.01%, Gore 16.53%, Gephardt 3.34%
1984 Dem: Mondale 99.46%, Hart 0.54%
1980 Dem: Carter 51.67%, Kennedy 48.04%

[minionofmidas]

In fact:

2000: Bush wins with 94%
2008: McCain wins with 90%

If any of us had bothered to look back at the historic results a blowout for the establishment frontrunner should've been obvious.

And if you add in that Santorum's "campaign" basically consisted of telling Puertoricans to speak Inglés if they want to be Americans but that they're still cool to vacation on - that is, basically consisted of telling them to vote for whoever had the best chance to beat him - and wonder what sort of appeal, exactly, Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul were supposed to have, then, um, yeah.

[Wisconsin+17]

So, Romney < Mondale.