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Possible scenario in the 2014 NY race?
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March 18, 2012, 08:07:37 pm »
So apparently Cuomo has a higher approval rating among Republicans and conservatives than Democrats and liberals. What if Cuomo loses the Democratic primary to a more liberal challenger, but wins the Independence Party line and decides to run with it? Could a 3-way race develop?
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March 19, 2012, 12:39:19 am »
Cuomo will not loose the Dem line, period. Which other lines he'd run on, is another matter.
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NY Dems are not suicidal. But if it happened, there's no strong Republican challenger. Running as an independent, he would beat the Republican and Democratic nominees with something like 55% in a three-way race.
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I thought liberals really like Eric Schneiderman. Maybe he could primary Cuomo from the left in that scenario.
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A good way to destroy Cuomo's presidential ambitions for Democratic Party.
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For Cuomo to loose that primary, he'd have to be discovered in a bed w/ a dead boy - neither the dead girl, nor the live boy would do it.
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I say it's a chance. They'd be insane to do it though.
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I don't think it's that unrealistic, given that liberals are already lukewarm on him. If his approvals drop 20 points or so (below the average decline for recent NY Dems...), I could easily see him losing the primary.
What would be interesting is who would get the WFP line in this scenario. I assume whoever loses it would attempt to resurrect the Liberal Party line.
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Why would any reasonable NY Dem primary Cuomo? He is a very successful incumbent w/ real achievements on his party side (did anyone say "gay marriage"?) - and he is not really hated, just, may be, slightly annoying to some. Even to mount a serious challenge would be extremely costly. And to do this merely to run a serious risk of electing a Republican in a race that should be safe Dem? What's, exactly, the point?
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The point would be narcissism, as motivates every office-seeker. It's not like there's a deficit of it in the state of New York.
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I can see Cuomo losing the WFP line.
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The point would be narcissism, as motivates every office-seeker. It's not like there's a deficit of it in the state of New York.
It would have to be narcissism in combination w/ idiocy and complete lack of political judgement. Dismissing such a distinguished challenge shouldn't be hard.
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Didn't Cuomo himself get bitch-slapped when he tried running for Governor before his turn?
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Quote from: ag on April 02, 2012, 07:07:31 pm
Why would any reasonable NY Dem primary Cuomo? He is a very successful incumbent w/ real achievements on his party side (did anyone say "gay marriage"?) - and he is not really hated, just, may be, slightly annoying to some. Even to mount a serious challenge would be extremely costly. And to do this merely to run a serious risk of electing a Republican in a race that should be safe Dem? What's, exactly, the point?
he is certainly hated by education unions and elements of the activist-progressive infrastructure. however they will not stand in his way.
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While I'm no Cuomo fan, he'd win. The best the Democrats could hope for is the results to match the 2006 CT Senate race.
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Quote from: Averroës Nix on April 20, 2012, 10:56:35 am
Not going to happen, though Cuomo's Nixon-esque sensitivity to criticism would make a serious primary challenge a good show.
He's Italian, not insane...
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While I'm no Cuomo fan, he'd win. The best the Democrats could hope for is the results to match the 2006 CT Senate race.
New York Republicans also hate Cuomo; he's no Joe Lieberman. Even in this crazy scenario, generic R still has a 25% floor.
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Coumo is doing a good job. Don't hate on him. He is doing all the right things. Replacing the state's flat income tax with a progressive income tax maybe a catch 22 though.
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His approval with Dems is basically double if not triple what Lieberman had, its not even remotely in the same ballpark....
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