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Question: Who would you support in 2016 (Dems)
Andrew Cuomo   -10 (9.8%)
Brian Schweitzer   -20 (19.6%)
Xavier Beccera   -0 (0%)
Elizabeth Warren   -3 (2.9%)
Russ Feingold   -16 (15.7%)
Joe Biden, VP   -6 (5.9%)
Mark Warner   -4 (3.9%)
Deval Patrick   -0 (0%)
Mark Begich   -1 (1%)
Tom Udall   -0 (0%)
Mark Udall   -1 (1%)
Hillary Clinton, SoS   -29 (28.4%)
John Hickenlooper   -2 (2%)
Martin O'Malley   -4 (3.9%)
Jerry Brown   -0 (0%)
Cory Booker   -3 (2.9%)
Gavin Newsom   -2 (2%)
Rahm Emanuel   -1 (1%)
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« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2012, 11:55:56 pm »
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Other Conservative Dems include Governor Nixon of Missouri (my vp choice) and Heath Shuler.



Are any of these democrats pro-life and for traditional marriage?

Just tossing a few names out: Mary Landrieu, Mark Pryor, Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman, Zell Miller, Blanche Lincoln. If it isn't any of those, probably not.

Isn't Lieberman pro-choice?

I think so; I was just tossing out names of conservatives who associate with the Democrats.
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« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2012, 11:14:40 am »
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« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2012, 12:56:37 pm »
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I would support Brian Schweitzer.  I'm leary of New York or California Democrats so that rules out Cuomo, Brown, and Newsom.  I'm supporting Scott Brown in the Massachusetts Senate Race this year, so that precludes Elizabeth Warren.

After Schweitzer, I would have to go with Feingold and Warner.
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« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2012, 03:19:16 pm »
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Schweitzer or O'Malley. Though I could be open to Cuomo.
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« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2012, 08:56:06 am »
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I'm leary of New York or California Democrats so that rules out Cuomo, Brown, and Newsom.

Well that's just plain ridiculous.
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« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2012, 09:14:49 am »
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Schweitzer and Feingold. If Biden were 10 years younger I'd be 100% behind him.
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« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2012, 12:08:04 am »
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Sad to see I'm the only Warner supporter.

Feingold would be a favorite of mine (almost solely for his lone opposition to the original incarnation of the Patriot Act in the Senate), but Warner, Cuomo and Schweitzer would pull more of the center towards their side.

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« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2012, 12:14:54 am »
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There are several decent choices, and I think it's premature to rank them. Interesting how this poll is basically a 3-way race between Schweitzer, Feingold, and Clinton. If Cuomo runs (and Clinton and Biden don't) he'd be the 800 pound gorilla, but he's not getting much love here.
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« Reply #58 on: July 03, 2012, 10:10:34 pm »
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Feingold is finished as a statewide candidate, so I have a hard time taking a national run seriously.  Maybe if he was more likable personally, than he could rebuild himself, but he isn't. 

I would like to see the party become healthier for the country as a whole.  Schwitzer and Warner probably aren't centrist enough, but that's the way to go.  It would probably be good to run to the right of republicans on a few issues.  Manchin is the only dem with a presidential-ish resume who gets national exposure for strongly objecting to the crap the democrats pull.  I don't know him that well, but I would like to see a guy like that get the nomination in the inverse way Romney got the R nomination... Win all the primaries of the states you will probably lose to the other party in the general ( dem wins all the red states, R wins all the blue states). 

I could see Cuomo winning the nomination, losing the general, and winning the nomination again later on.           
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« Reply #59 on: July 03, 2012, 10:45:23 pm »
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Cory Booker or, against my general repulsion with the idea of a Senator being President, Feingold. There are a couple that might be ok eventually, but none that really do much for me. Booker I'd rather wait a couple more cycles for, too. But I think I'd actually get off my ass to vote for either of those two regardless.
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« Reply #60 on: July 03, 2012, 10:53:47 pm »
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I would like to see the party become healthier for the country as a whole. It would probably be good to run to the right of republicans on a few issues.  Manchin is the only dem etc.

In other words...

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I'd like Democrats a whole lot better if they were Republicans.
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I would like to see the party become healthier for the country as a whole. It would probably be good to run to the right of republicans on a few issues.  Manchin is the only dem etc.

In other words...

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I'd like Democrats a whole lot better if they were Republicans.

Is Mitt Romney a democrat? No, if you were making any sense the answer would be yes. I'm  saying I would like a democrat for national office that is appealing and/or less hostile to more regions/cultural nations of the country. 

Dem coalition = New England, *Left Coast, **1/2New Amsterdam, 1/2 EL Norte. = 3 cultural nations 
*Left Coast is Literally the child of New England, so it doesn't really offer cultural diversity.
**New Amsterdam doesn't offer any diversity either as the part aligned with New England IS essentially part of New England. 
adjusted cultural nation coalition of 1.5 nations

Rep coalition = Midlands, Greater Appalachia, Tidewater, Deep South, Far West,  1/2New Amsterdam, 1/2 EL Norte. = 6 cultural nations   

6 vs 1.5 is unhealthy for the republic in my opinion.  Democrats have no real diversity of thought or culture, I think that is unhealthy also. 
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« Reply #62 on: July 04, 2012, 10:20:25 am »
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I would like to see the party become healthier for the country as a whole. It would probably be good to run to the right of republicans on a few issues.  Manchin is the only dem etc.

In other words...

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I'd like Democrats a whole lot better if they were Republicans.


[Bit that doesn't make any sense about Mitt Romney]

Dem coalition = New England, Left Coast, New Amsterdam, 1/2 El Norte, 1/2 Far West, 1/2 Midlands = 4.5 cultural nations 

Rep coalition = 1/2 Midlands, Greater Appalachia, Tidewater, Deep South, 1/2 Far West, 1/2 EL Norte = 4.5 cultural nations   

4.5 vs 4.5 is entirely healthy.  The vast diversity of thought within the Democratic party is healthy also (I don't see the Republicans making someone who's pro-choice their Minority Leader). 
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Andrew Cuomo- Best shot at winning but might not make it through primary.
Brian Scweitzer- Doesn't seem presidential. Reminds me of Bush 43 if he were smart. Great Veep material.
Xavier Beccerra- If he could make it to governor or senator, he'd could actually have a shot.
Elizabeth Warren- Way to liberal and controversial. Would mobilize democrats, but turn of independents.
Russ Feingold- He will have been out of office for 6 years. If he knocks off Walker in 2014, he might  have a shot, but he'd be 63 and be the oldest first termer since Bush 41.
Joe Biden- He'd be too old, if he were 20 years younger, he'd win in a landslide.
Mark Warner- Kinda dull speaker compared to Obama. Votes with the Dems 93% of the time, but still is perceived as conservative. Have to move far to the left for the primary but would kill in a general.
Deval Patrick- TOO SOON. Do we really think people will go for another black guy right after Obama. And you know what the say about Presidential candidates from Mass. Not since Kennedy.
Mark Begich- Looks pretty good on the surface. Only 54 '16. It depends if he wins 2014. He only won by about 2 points in 2008, but if he makes it who knows.Might make a good veep to a liberal nominee.
Tom Udall- He'll be 68 in 2016. Pretty progressive. Might be a good veep for Cuomo or another moderate nominee.
Mark Udall-Might be a good nominee if we have to face a western GOPer. Even better veep. He'd be 57 in 2016.
Hillary Clinton- She seems genuinely done with politics. If she did run, we probably wouldnt have a primary, but her age might be an issue against a relatively young GOPer like Rubio, Christie, or Thune.
John Hickenlooper- I don't know much about his issue positions, but from what I've heard, he'd be great as nominee. I dont think he'll run though for some odd reason.
Martin O'Malley- He seems progressive on social issues, but moderate on economics. Running after 8 years of Obama, the general would be close, but I think we'd lose it(2000). After 4 years of Romney though, he could probably win it as a Clinton-like figure.
Jerry Brown- 4th time is not the charm. He's too old, and budget wise, isn't doing so well in Cali.
Cory Booker- Too inexperienced. Chris Christie would murder him in 2013 if he challenged him. So unless he wins the senate seat in 2014, he has no chance in 2016. And I think Bain-Gate burned his bridges among the base anyway.
Gavin Newsom- If he can make it to the governorship, he could very well get the nomination. I'm not sure of his chances in the general. He is liberal on socials, but conservative on economics. Perfect mix for a general election.
Rahm Emanuel- Being mayor of a big city doesn't necessarily qualify you for pres.(Giuliani). But if he makes it higher, say Governor or Senator, I'd consider supporting him. He'd call out the GOPs Bull sh**t.
Martin Heinrich- Soon to be senator from New Mexico. He strikes me as the next Obama. Handsome, young, liberal, and a pretty dynamic speaker. He has a future in the Democratic Party.

So my personal choices. 1.Heinrich 2. Cuomo 3. O'Malley 4. Scweitzer 5. Hickenlooper 6. Warner






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« Reply #64 on: July 04, 2012, 02:18:27 pm »
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If I was a Democrat, I'll probably be all for Cuomo. I could settle for Clinton too. The others? Not too keen.
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« Reply #65 on: July 04, 2012, 05:54:37 pm »
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I would like to see the party become healthier for the country as a whole. It would probably be good to run to the right of republicans on a few issues.  Manchin is the only dem etc.

In other words...

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I'd like Democrats a whole lot better if they were Republicans.


[Bit that doesn't make any sense about Mitt Romney]

Dem coalition = New England, Left Coast, New Amsterdam, 1/2 El Norte, 1/2 Far West, 1/2 Midlands = 4.5 cultural nations 

Rep coalition = 1/2 Midlands, Greater Appalachia, Tidewater, Deep South, 1/2 Far West, 1/2 EL Norte = 4.5 cultural nations   

4.5 vs 4.5 is entirely healthy.  The vast diversity of thought within the Democratic party is healthy also (I don't see the Republicans making someone who's pro-choice their Minority Leader). 
Umm,
Not a single Far Western state/area is aligned with the dems, so when you call nearly 100% vs. 0% -- 50/50 you're wrong. 
Same is basically true of Midlands.  Look at a county map of PA, OH, IN, IL, IA, and WI.
New Amsterdam is split although it is hard to adjust for the New York City variable.  The republican areas of CT, New Jersey, and DE are no doubt New Amsterdam. 
So, like I said 3 is the total, but it feels like 1.         
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« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2012, 06:05:28 pm »
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I would like to see the party become healthier for the country as a whole. It would probably be good to run to the right of republicans on a few issues.  Manchin is the only dem etc.

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I'd like Democrats a whole lot better if they were Republicans.


[Bit that doesn't make any sense about Mitt Romney]

Dem coalition = New England, Left Coast, New Amsterdam, 1/2 El Norte, 1/2 Far West, 1/2 Midlands = 4.5 cultural nations 

Rep coalition = 1/2 Midlands, Greater Appalachia, Tidewater, Deep South, 1/2 Far West, 1/2 EL Norte = 4.5 cultural nations   

4.5 vs 4.5 is entirely healthy.  The vast diversity of thought within the Democratic party is healthy also (I don't see the Republicans making someone who's pro-choice their Minority Leader). 
Umm,
Not a single Far Western state/area is aligned with the dems, so when you call nearly 100% vs. 0% -- 50/50 you're wrong. 
Same is basically true of Midlands.  Look at a county map of PA, OH, IN, IL, IA, and WI.
New Amsterdam is split although it is hard to adjust for the New York City variable.  The republican areas of CT, New Jersey, and DE are no doubt New Amsterdam. 
So, like I said 3 is the total, but it feels like 1.         

Far Western states, you mean like Colorado and Nevada (or, at a stretch, Montana)? As for Midlands, you're citing Illinois as an example of a Republican-aligned state...
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Far Western states, you mean like Colorado and Nevada (or, at a stretch, Montana)? As for Midlands, you're citing Illinois as an example of a Republican-aligned state...


Colorado republicans are far western, while Colorado democrats are El Norte or a transplanted bubble of Left coasters, generally speaking. 
Nevada is a two city state, with transplants from those two as well. 
Montana elects a few democrats that pretend to be Republicans and national wave elections help.
Illinois is Indiana outside Chicago.
The Eastern half of Wisconsin is essentially a Midland island that developed shortly after original Yankee settlement.
The New Netherland/Amsterdam area votes overwhelmingly dem, but it is constantly hedging it's bets in a lot of ways including writing more checks to Republicans than dems... not a stretch to call it divided. 
     
 
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« Reply #68 on: July 05, 2012, 09:11:43 am »
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I'm not a Democrat, but I could support Cuomo depending on his opponent. He seems to have a respect for free enterprise and his investigations while attorney general didn't stink of class warfare. I think he would be a good, pro-market force in the White House.
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I'm not a Democrat, but I could support Cuomo depending on his opponent. He seems to have a respect for free enterprise and his investigations while attorney general didn't stink of class warfare. I think he would be a good, pro-market force in the White House.
Is he becoming the new head of the Clinton faction? 
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Mark Warner or Andrew Cuomo.
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I'm not a Democrat, but I could support Cuomo depending on his opponent. He seems to have a respect for free enterprise and his investigations while attorney general didn't stink of class warfare. I think he would be a good, pro-market force in the White House.
Is he becoming the new head of the Clinton faction? 

Maybe, but I think Cuomo is more pro-market then Clinton, certainly in the way he has governed and taken on the unions. Clinton would be running scared from harming anyone who had helped out her campaign in any way.
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Whoever made that map is a moron who has no knowledge of American history or political demographics. Including Minnesota and Wisconsin, two states that have been colored nearly exclusively by their Scandinavian and German heritage, in "Yankeedom" is a real travesty. I could go on and on about how stupid that map is but I'll stop here. It has no relevance to any serious political discussion. 
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Xavier Beccerra- If he could make it to governor or senator, he'd could actually have a shot.

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True, but there are often times were a representative is presidential material- ie Bachmann and Paul. Usually they are Dark horses (other than paul) who rise to prominence as rising stars a few years before the election. For Dems 2016, I thing Beccerra, Lloyd Doggett of Texas, and Heath Shuler are the most promising. Maybe even Terri Sewell, black woman from Alabama.

A long shot, but I think Sec. of Labor Hilda Solis or UN Ambassador Susan Rice could run. I think Governor Jay Nixon of Missouri is the best choice for VP

The best tickets would be:

Andrew Cuomo-Jay Nixon (my favorite)

Kathleen Sebelius- Andrew Cuomo

Kathleen Sebelius- Jay Nixon
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