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Question: Who would you support in 2016 (Dems)
Andrew Cuomo   -10 (9.6%)
Brian Schweitzer   -20 (19.2%)
Xavier Beccera   -0 (0%)
Elizabeth Warren   -4 (3.8%)
Russ Feingold   -16 (15.4%)
Joe Biden, VP   -6 (5.8%)
Mark Warner   -4 (3.8%)
Deval Patrick   -0 (0%)
Mark Begich   -1 (1%)
Tom Udall   -0 (0%)
Mark Udall   -2 (1.9%)
Hillary Clinton, SoS   -29 (27.9%)
John Hickenlooper   -2 (1.9%)
Martin O'Malley   -4 (3.8%)
Jerry Brown   -0 (0%)
Cory Booker   -3 (2.9%)
Gavin Newsom   -2 (1.9%)
Rahm Emanuel   -1 (1%)
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« on: March 19, 2012, 09:27:16 pm »
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Please Vote for your canidate of choice. Mine is Andrew Cuomo.
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2012, 03:48:21 pm »
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Feingold is my dream, but I'll most likely settle for Schweitzer. I would never support Andrew Cuomo.
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2012, 06:00:31 pm »
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Schweitzer (if I could vote)
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2012, 07:03:02 am »
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Depends on the polls, and where my state votes.
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2012, 01:16:25 pm »
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Feingold is my dream, but I'll most likely settle for Schweitzer. I would never support Andrew Cuomo.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 01:33:45 pm »
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Brian Schweitzer, Russ Feingold, Elizabeth Warren and Martin O' Malley would all be fine choices.

My preferences:
1. Russ Feingold
2. Brian Schweitzer
3. Martin O' Malley
4. Elizabeth Warren

I'd vote for any anti-Cuomo.
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2012, 02:31:38 pm »
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Martin O'Malley and John Hickenlooper are the best choices IMO.  Though obviously I don't know them all in-depth.

I'd probably be alright with just about all of the others, except for the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad Andrew Cuomo.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 06:07:03 pm »
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My God. We're sounding exactly like the Republicans.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 06:29:08 pm »
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My God. We're sounding exactly like the Republicans.

My dislike for Cuomo is not because I think he's "too conservative".  I would happily support Schweitzer in the general, and he's on balance more to the right.  I'm even okay with a little bit of pushing for public union givebacks- it's hard not to be if you're paying attention to the MTA's budget for instance.

The two big things are: a) giving away the store on redistricting, which strikes me as Lieberman-esque posturing at best, and b) throwing away scores of public input and planning efforts to ax transit on the Tappan Zee Bridge replacement, and then being secretive in trying to ram it through, which is maximally bad process and policy on the issue I am most invested in.  I can't support that.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2012, 07:13:51 pm »
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1) Booker (assuming he's Governor or something in this hypothetical?)
2) O' Malley
3) Eh, Cuomo?

Obviously Rahm Emanuel is great, but I don't know if being a Mayor, even if of a big city, is a viable launching pad for a Presidential campaign. Wink
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2012, 10:38:37 pm »
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Would support, no questions asked:
Sen. Sherrod Brown

Would be willing to support:
Brian Schweitzer
Elizabeth Warren
Russ Feingold
Joe Biden
Mark Begich
Hillary Clinton
Martin O'Malley

Don't know:
Xavier Beccera
Deval Patrick
Mark Udall
Tom Udall
John Hickenlooper

Too conservative/wouldn't support unless they were the lesser of two (or more) evils:
Andrew Cuomo
Mark Warner
Jerry Brown
Cory Booker
Gavin Newsom
Rahm Emanuel
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2012, 11:00:35 pm »
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What do you find so bad about Newsom?
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2012, 11:01:31 pm »
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What do you find so bad about Newsom?

Too fiscally conservative for my tastes.
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2012, 12:08:59 am »
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1) Booker (assuming he's Governor or something in this hypothetical?)
2) O' Malley
3) Eh, Cuomo?

Obviously Rahm Emanuel is great, but I don't know if being a Mayor, even if of a big city, is a viable launching pad for a Presidential campaign. Wink

Booker seems too soon. He has to become Governor of New Jersey first, and even then, it would probably be too soon. He seems to fit more into 2020 or 2024 (or beyond, he's really young) scenarios.



Schweitzer, as I have said before, is the best possible nominee. He is charismatic, can communicate well with the American every-man, cannot be tarred as an elitist, and speaks fluent Arabic. He can solidify the West, remain competitive in the Midwest, and once again advance in southern states that were responsive to Bill Clinton but hostile to Obama (Missouri, for example).

Andrew Cuomo is striking me as a very Romney-esque (or I guess, Hillary-esque) candidate in this scenario. Doesn't have the support of the base, but (probably) will have the support of the party bosses.
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2012, 12:33:44 pm »
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I'd have to support my Governor, Martin O'Malley. I've been following his political career since he ran for Mayor in 1999 (yes, I was young, but he seemed like a good guy). He has a lot of traits that make him an appealing candidate for President. It would be nice to see a big city mayor sitting in the Oval Office. There hasn't been a President since Johnson who put a major focus on America's cities. O'Malley's also done a good job as Governor of a Democratic, yet politically slow moving, state. Most importantly, he's a fighter. Watching him on MSNBC and following his Facebook statutes, it's clear to see that O'Malley will take on the Republicans on his own turf. Just look at his status from yesterday:

"Welcome to Maryland Mitt Romney. For your information, in our State, we don't try to take away women's health services. We work to expand them."

Now that's someone the Democrats could use at the top of the ticket!
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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2012, 12:44:18 pm »
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Martin "largest tax increase in Maryland history" "tough gun control" O'Malley would be a laughable choice for Democrats.  The attack ads write themselves.  My advice: Go for Schweitzer or Hillary.
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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2012, 01:13:56 pm »
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"Welcome to Maryland Mitt Romney. For your information, in our State, we don't try to take away women's health services. We work to expand them."

Now that's someone the Democrats could use at the top of the ticket!

Gross. I understand supporting Democrats means you'll being supporting pro-choicers, but still, that level of brazenness is unappealing.
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2012, 03:52:09 pm »
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I'll support Biden if he decides to run, I think:


Joe Biden, VP   
John Hickenlooper       
Martin O'Malley    
Michael Bennet*
Brian Schweitzer
Elizabeth Warren   
Russ Feingold   
Mark Begich
Jerry Brown   
Mark Udall   
Hillary Clinton, SoS       
Deval Patrick
Cory Booker
Tom Udall   
Xavier Becerra

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Andrew Cuomo
Mark Warner   
Gavin Newsom       
Rahm Emanuel   
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2012, 05:06:14 pm »
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1. Feingold
2. O'Malley
3. Schweitzer
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2012, 07:35:18 pm »
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Mark Warner, of course.
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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2012, 10:06:44 pm »
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Brian Schweitzer, Mark Udall, John Hickenlooper, and Michael Bennett are all good choices, in my opinion. Maybe I'm biased as a Mountain West guy (since all of those possible candidates are Mountain West politicians), but I think they can all bring a new kind of political culture to a Dem ticket in 2016.

Of the rest of the possible runs, I'd like to see Feingold, O'Malley, and Sherrod Brown.

Andrew Cuomo is a economically center-right corporatist jerk, though I do commend him for his social polices. He'd be a good VP.

The rest? No, I wouldn't support them.
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2012, 02:08:45 pm »
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Michael Bennet would probably be my first choice, too, actually.
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See, there is truth to Cuomo being romney-esque in some manner, however there is two differences

1. Cuomo has had a great record on social issues, such as legalizing Gay marriage in the second most powerful blue state.

2. Romeny was chosen by party leaders because they thought he would be strongest among Indies and Dems, though he isn't popular with Repubs or Dems. Cuomo would genuinelt be popular with the GOP's people, and would win.

Anyway,

Andrew Cuomo-Jay Nixon 2016!


1) Booker (assuming he's Governor or something in this hypothetical?)
2) O' Malley
3) Eh, Cuomo?

Obviously Rahm Emanuel is great, but I don't know if being a Mayor, even if of a big city, is a viable launching pad for a Presidential campaign. Wink

Booker seems too soon. He has to become Governor of New Jersey first, and even then, it would probably be too soon. He seems to fit more into 2020 or 2024 (or beyond, he's really young) scenarios.



Schweitzer, as I have said before, is the best possible nominee. He is charismatic, can communicate well with the American every-man, cannot be tarred as an elitist, and speaks fluent Arabic. He can solidify the West, remain competitive in the Midwest, and once again advance in southern states that were responsive to Bill Clinton but hostile to Obama (Missouri, for example).

Andrew Cuomo is striking me as a very Romney-esque (or I guess, Hillary-esque) candidate in this scenario. Doesn't have the support of the base, but (probably) will have the support of the party bosses.
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2012, 08:54:49 pm »
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I voted for Begich, but I'd cross over to the Dems for Schweitzer, Feingold, Brown, M. Udall, and Hickenlooper, and possibly Warner, Patrick, and T. Udall.
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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2012, 09:01:50 pm »
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Michael Bennet would probably be my first choice, too, actually.

Bennet was born in India, sorry.
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