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Question: What should Florida do about their Stand Your Ground Law?
Keep It   -6 (22.2%)
Get Rid Of It   -11 (40.7%)
Amend It   -10 (37%)
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Author Topic: Florida's Stand Your Ground Law  (Read 753 times)
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« on: July 23, 2012, 12:43:46 pm »
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After much controversy over this law that has protected some but endangered most, I've decided to do a poll. Personally, I believe it could protect some people if it wasn't so vague.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 07:42:17 pm »
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Keep, of course, just like the people of Florida want. Unfortunately it seems on this forum so far I'm in a minority of one.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 09:18:37 pm »
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This is the kind of question that would be considered a sick joke in most places.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 10:01:37 pm »

It needs to be amended to make clear that following someone does not invoke the stand your ground provisions if the person you are following turns to confront you.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2012, 12:20:18 am »
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It needs to be amended to make clear that following someone does not invoke the stand your ground provisions if the person you are following turns to confront you.
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2012, 12:37:35 am »
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I can't see any reason why the right to stand your ground should turn on whether you were following someone. If the person simply confronts you, that is one thing. If he moves to attack you, that is quite another.

That said, I haven't so much as glanced at the text of the statute, so I abstain from voting.
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 12:45:22 am »
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Keep, of course, just like the people of Florida want. Unfortunately it seems on this forum so far I'm in a minority of one.

Well, you're not completely alone.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 09:12:40 am »

I can't see any reason why the right to stand your ground should turn on whether you were following someone. If the person simply confronts you, that is one thing. If he moves to attack you, that is quite another.

It's simple enough even a Republican should be able to understand.  When Martin turned to confront the person following him, he became the person standing his ground, not Zimmerman.
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 09:44:07 am »
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I haven't delved into the facts of the Martin-Zimmerman case, which don't seem relevant here. But following someone, by itself and without more, is no threat of force, and certainly does not prevent the pursued from standing his ground. Indeed, in a typical case it means you want the person to stay situated, so you can talk to him.
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2012, 12:46:41 pm »
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I'm mostly ambivalent on Castle Doctrine laws, but a duty should retreat should definitely exist when not on one's own property.
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2012, 08:24:08 pm »
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Voted Amend It, should keep it.
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