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« on: March 21, 2012, 05:45:33 pm »
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close, but i vote no.

there still may be enough yankee republicans alive in essex county who (mistakenly) believe mitt romney is a yankee republican.
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2012, 05:54:23 pm »
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Against Santorum, he might break 80. Against Romney, no: he'll probably break 65, but not 70.
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2012, 05:56:00 pm »
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No.  In fact I'll even wager to say that '08 was probably the high-water mark for Democratic presidential candidates in Vermont for a while.
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2012, 06:16:09 pm »
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62% Obama
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2012, 06:20:31 pm »
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Can anyone tell me why VT was solid republican until Clinton?
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 06:20:42 pm »
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No; if it didn't happen in 2008, it won't happen this year.
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2012, 06:26:38 pm »
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Quote from: argentarius on March 21, 2012, 06:20:31 pm
Can anyone tell me why VT was solid republican until Clinton?

It wasn't really solid Republican. From 1976 to 2000 it swung more Democratic with every election. Clinton was just the guy who pushed it into the Democratic column.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 06:31:36 pm »
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Probably not against Romney. Now, if Santorum or Gingrich somehow magically got the nomination, sure he would.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 06:31:56 pm »
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Quote from: argentarius on March 21, 2012, 06:20:31 pm
Can anyone tell me why VT was solid republican until Clinton?
For the same reasons that Alabama used to be solidly Democratic.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2012, 06:43:46 pm »
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Quote from: argentarius on March 21, 2012, 06:20:31 pm
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2012, 06:51:34 pm »
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Nah. Depends who he faces, though.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2012, 06:58:41 pm »
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Can anyone tell me why VT was solid republican until Clinton?

It wasn't really solid Republican. From 1976 to 2000 it swung more Democratic with every election. Clinton was just the guy who pushed it into the Democratic column.
It was even the one state where the GOP vote % decreased from 1976 to 1980. Ever since, it's had a lower GOP % than the nation at large in each presidential election.
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2012, 07:19:43 pm »
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Quote from: argentarius on March 21, 2012, 06:20:31 pm
Can anyone tell me why VT was solid republican until Clinton?

Thank you for raising this subject with us. This forum has been around for over a decade and during this time that subject has never come up. Our best people will now proceed to work around the clock to search for an answer to you question.
I'm sorry if this has come up a million times before, I can see you've been around here for a long time, I've only really been frequenting this forum since this primary season started.
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2012, 04:15:17 am »
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He'll probably get a bit less than he did in 2008; 65 percent sounds about right.

I do wonder if Obama will get Essex again. Someone more knowledgeable on Vermont can correct me if I'm wrong, but Romney probably has a fairly good shot there, no?
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2012, 12:52:03 pm »
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Quote from: argentarius on March 21, 2012, 06:20:31 pm
Can anyone tell me why VT was solid republican until Clinton?

Thank you for raising this subject with us. This forum has been around for over a decade and during this time that subject has never come up. Our best people will now proceed to work around the clock to search for an answer to you question.
I'm sorry if this has come up a million times before, I can see you've been around here for a long time, I've only really been frequenting this forum since this primary season started.

Just disregard him, being a **** is part of his schtick.
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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2012, 01:59:19 pm »
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Quote from: argentarius on March 21, 2012, 06:20:31 pm
Can anyone tell me why VT was solid republican until Clinton?

For the same reason it is now solid Dem. Republicans became the Southern party, and the Vermont Yanks don't like that.
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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2012, 03:03:58 pm »
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Quote from: argentarius on March 21, 2012, 06:20:31 pm
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2012, 05:02:21 pm »
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No. Romney will have vague appeal with Rockefeller Republicans.
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