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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: March 23, 2012, 07:15:20 AM »

The official position of Combat 18 - the SA to the early BNP's NSDAP - was that the Holocaust didn't happen but they wished that it had.

Which... er... says everything, really.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2012, 09:13:32 PM »

What is this.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2012, 09:27:42 PM »


The genuinely bizarre and utterly novel argument that you just spewed out.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 08:10:13 PM »

There is no reason, no reason whatsoever, to believe that any group that was not already subject to systematic persecution would have become the victims of outright genocide in the event of a Nazi victory. Claiming otherwise is a clear attempt to minimise the significance of the genocide that actually happened, and so is (interestingly enough) quite appropriate for a thread with this title.

This is a non-negotiable position, by the way. Anyone who argues otherwise basically disqualifies themselves from speaking about the subject.

When it comes to awareness of genocide and other atrocities things are quite clear as well; I refer any doubters to Martin Broszat's Bavaria Project (and will point out when it was done) and will leave it at that.

The issue of non-Germans getting their hands bloody has been raised, I think. It's true that this did happen (look up what happened to the Lithuanian Jews if you want nightmares) and that this has had less attention than is exactly desirable, especially in the countries in question. But this does not actually make the actions of Germans better in any meaningful way.

The Nazism and religion thing is less important by an almost infinite degree (except to morons), but has a very simple answer: most leading Nazis were not religious by any sane definition of the word, but they generally kept up their church memberships for the reasons that most other Germans did (and most West Germans do), and this included the mustachioed country member himself. Which means that he was a Catholic by any reasonable definition. If you aren't happy about this fact, try to remember that plenty of other murderous despots were quite openly atheistic. Personally I can't think of anything that matters less than the religious affiliation of mass murderers, but the internet is a strange place filled with strange people.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2012, 06:53:59 AM »

Why the bizarre hypotheticals?
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