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« on: March 25, 2012, 06:45:24 pm »
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Game Reform Panel

The goal of this panel is quite simple - develop, discuss, and implement idea's to make this game more enjoyable. These idea's range from a variety of area's, from elections to "boring" positions.

By April 30th, the goal for this committee is to have develop a complete game plan on how we believe we can make Atlasia a better place, and have several recommendations for the Senate to implement.

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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 08:32:19 pm »
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Pretty sure we already did this.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 09:31:08 pm »
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Pretty sure we already did this.
We're doing it again. We announced that during the campaign.
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 10:09:19 pm »
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Checking in. I am excited to work with the VP and anyone else who may join us to find practical solutions. Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 11:01:08 pm »
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I propose making opebo the monarch of Atlasia...
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2012, 02:19:48 am »
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Can I join?
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2012, 01:08:02 pm »
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1. Extend Presidential Term to one six-month term.

2. Senate Reform - At-large senate seats abolished, instead give one additional seat to the each region.

3. Set Senate terms to coincide with all presidential elections.

4. Appoint all former Presidents and Vice Presidents to the new office of "National Senator".

5. Establish term limit in the Regional Legislatures and Senate - 1 year.

6. Establish  limit for SC Judges - one 1,5 year term.

7. Regional Legislators should meet 2 sessions in the year as members of National Assembly. One session = one week.

8. Cabinet Reform
   10.1 - Secretary of Federal Elections renamed into the Head of Federal Electoral Comittee.
   10.2 - Register General renamed into the Head of Federal  Statistics Service.
   10.3 - Secretary of Internal Affairs position is abolished and his duties are re-shared between Secretary of National Defense, Secretary of State Treasury and Chief of Staff.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2012, 04:14:47 pm »
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1. Extend Presidential Term to one six-month term.

That's worth a constructive debate, as I haven't really heard this idea. I think the main concept behind a 4-month term was to match RL in terms of numbers... 4 months /=/ 4 years.

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2. Senate Reform - At-large senate seats abolished, instead give one additional seat to the each region.

I'm pro-region, but a tough sell in the current environment, as our regional Senate seat elections haven't been too competitive.

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3. Set Senate terms to coincide with all presidential elections.

Would you support this even if we left the At-Large seats? That's obviously create 6-month terms for Senators, but could having them all together at once create confusion?

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4. Appoint all former Presidents and Vice Presidents to the new office of "National Senator".

What would be the role of this? Would they have Senate voting powers? Not too crazy on the idea, as many of our former Presidents and VPs are no longer active. Interesting idea, though.

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5. Establish term limit in the Regional Legislatures and Senate - 1 year.

Personally believe this infringes on the regions - they should be able to set their own term limits. I also am against term limits at this juncture of time, considering we are having an activity problem in the Senate.

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6. Establish  limit for SC Judges - one 1,5 year term.

Not a terrible idea. Worth discussing.

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7. Regional Legislators should meet 2 sessions in the year as members of National Assembly. One session = one week.

What would be the purpose of this?

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8. Cabinet Reform
   10.1 - Secretary of Federal Elections renamed into the Head of Federal Electoral Comittee.
   10.2 - Register General renamed into the Head of Federal  Statistics Service.
   10.3 - Secretary of Internal Affairs position is abolished and his duties are re-shared between Secretary of National Defense, Secretary of State Treasury and Chief of Staff.

What's the purpose of the name change? I'm kind of lost on the 3rd part - basically you're proposing that we split the SoIA position into 3 parts?
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2012, 03:42:54 pm »
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What about a "Questioning the Power" type legislation to promote transperancy between the national, regional governments, and The People?

I'm in on aiding game reform if the rest will have me?
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What about a "Questioning the Power" type legislation to promote transperancy between the national, regional governments, and The People?

I'm in on aiding game reform if the rest will have me?
We do that down south.  Doesn't serve a purpose as far as I can see, but it's part of tradition and so it stays.
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2012, 05:11:09 pm »
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Hey, I think everything mentioned so far can only make things worse. We need to get people active, not push more and more people away.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2012, 08:59:54 pm »
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Hey, I think everything mentioned so far can only make things worse. We need to get people active, not push more and more people away.
Do you have any suggestions?
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Hey, I think everything mentioned so far can only make things worse. We need to get people active, not push more and more people away.
Do you have any suggestions?

Why don't we all quit Atlasia and go play Politburo, as soon as I finish making it.
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2012, 09:17:55 pm »
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Hey, I think everything mentioned so far can only make things worse. We need to get people active, not push more and more people away.
Do you have any suggestions?

Why don't we all quit Atlasia and go play Politburo, as soon as I finish making it.
Do you know how much more difficult it'd be to get all Atlasians to join a new game? Wink Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2012, 10:31:49 pm »
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I'm going to state the obvious - this game is facing a fork in the road. I know, every election we say "this is a critical election" yada yada, but this time really is. Atlasia has been steadily declining for a while, and it really took a hit when the JCP and RPP dissolved a few months ago.

One idea that floated my mind was a game reset - reset all policy to where America is today and start new. But then I thought, will that really do anything to spur activity, or just give more work for those already active?

We need something big, guys, to move this game in the right direction. Cabinet restructuring? We could do it just to make small improvements, but it's not going to really help the game moving forward. Set term limits for the Supreme Court? Same deal.

Wiki is great for viewing Atlasia's history, but reforming it won't do squat in fixing this game.

What this game needs, IMO, is controversy and politics. We're always harping about how we hate negativity and it leads to the downfall of the game, but I'm not sure I agree with that. Some of Atlasia's greatest were also some of our most controversial. I think this game's at it's best when there is a lot of activity, and something big has to be going on to get that to happen, not pretty, shaking hands politics. (This is going against what I've always preached)

In conclusion, the three of us (and anyone else who wants to join), need to make some proposals to Atlasia on what we think could solve the problem. Here is one thought I have:

- Reviving the RPP and JCP. Especially the RPP - I think at this point, the right-wing is in complete confusion, with almost no set organization in place. It's like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off. That may be great for the left, but it's not good for the game.

- I'll still bring up a game reset, just to see where your heads are on that - if anyone thinks it'll be benficial.

 
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And I am in complete agreement, of course. We need to make Atlasia a bit more intune to present day issues. This will keep people interested and active, and make it easier to understand the game.
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And I am in complete agreement, of course. We need to make Atlasia a bit more intune to present day issues. This will keep people interested and active, and make it easier to understand the game.
Would a game reset help with that, perhaps? From that point forward, we could work out with the SoIA and GM in making sure stories are concurrent with what's going on in the real world. Generating discussion on the Keystone Pipeline is a perfect example. Perhaps we take a hot-button issue once a month, create a simplified version on here and debate it?
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2012, 11:43:10 pm »
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So we would reset the issues of the day to those of the real world?
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2012, 03:43:45 pm »
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Maybe a game reset would wake up the right and the left both.
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So we would reset the issues of the day to those of the real world?
Yes, for the most part, issues that are currently going on would also go on here. Of course, for example, there would be no news here on Hillary Rosen's comments towards Ann Romney. Also, if RL Congress passed a bill that we didn't, from the reset forward, we would pretend it didn't happen.

Does this make sense?
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2012, 04:44:28 pm »
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I wish people were on board with a full on "game reset" nearly two years ago.
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2012, 05:59:18 pm »
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Just so I understand, "game reset" doesn't indicate throwing everyone out of office and holding elections for all of them, correct?  That's just what comes to my mind when I read the words "game reset".

As for the wiki, I've noticed there are a bunch of pages on there that need to be updated.  I've tried logging in to fix the pages myself, but I've never been able to access my wiki account, if one even exists.  My guess is that only certain people are allowed to edit the wiki, but I'm not sure how it works, to be completely honest.
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Just so I understand, "game reset" doesn't indicate throwing everyone out of office and holding elections for all of them, correct?  That's just what comes to my mind when I read the words "game reset".

As for the wiki, I've noticed there are a bunch of pages on there that need to be updated.  I've tried logging in to fix the pages myself, but I've never been able to access my wiki account, if one even exists.  My guess is that only certain people are allowed to edit the wiki, but I'm not sure how it works, to be completely honest.

You have to message Dave for wiki access.
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2012, 07:01:38 pm »
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Just so I understand, "game reset" doesn't indicate throwing everyone out of office and holding elections for all of them, correct?  That's just what comes to my mind when I read the words "game reset".

As for the wiki, I've noticed there are a bunch of pages on there that need to be updated.  I've tried logging in to fix the pages myself, but I've never been able to access my wiki account, if one even exists.  My guess is that only certain people are allowed to edit the wiki, but I'm not sure how it works, to be completely honest.
Game reset would reset the policies, not the politicians, Scott. Smiley

Click on the "Email" tab on the very top of this website, and message Dave asking for Wiki access. Give him a week, and if you still don't have access, message him again. You should get it then.
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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2012, 07:19:41 pm »
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Ah.  Just making sure.  Thanks, guys. Smiley
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