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Question: Which do YOU identify with?
Green   -5 (71.4%)
Gold   -0 (0%)
Red   -1 (14.3%)
Blue   -1 (14.3%)
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Author Topic: Lincoln and Obama States  (Read 65 times)
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« on: Today at 04:15:16 pm »
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Lincoln 1860/Obama 2012 States: Green
Lincoln 1860/Non-Obama 2012 States: Gold
Non-Lincoln 1860/Obama 2012 States: Red
Non-Lincoln 1860/Non-Obama 2012 States: Blue

Stereotypes:
Green: True Northern, cosmopolitan, pro-minority states, with plenty of liberal whites.
Gold: Populist, blue collar states, with a slight racial bias but some sympathy for minorities.
Red: States overwhelmed with demographic change, whites lean conservative.
Blue: Ultra-conservative, bigoted, regressive, unreconstructed, not changed demographically yet.

Politicians:
Green: Most similar to George McGovern. Looking forward to the future, and to change.
Gold: Most similar to Andrew Johnson. Based in the past, but accept minor changes, and can sometimes seem progressive.
Red: Most similar to Jeb Bush. Moderate right-winger who wants to appeal to minorities.
Blue: Most similar to George Wallace. Conservative and rooted a good 40 years in the past.
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« Reply #1 on: Today at 05:00:29 pm »
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Once again I take issue with the revisionist claim that George Wallace was conservative, as it is often used based on the logic that he was a racist (as if liberals can't be racist) and completely ignores his plethora of liberal positions.

As for the strange topic, obviously green, though I once again object to the politician, as those green states have elected mostly center-right politicians throughout their history until the New Deal (for some) and the mid-to-late 20th Century (the holdouts like ME, NH and VT).
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- Abraham Lincoln



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« Reply #2 on: Today at 05:02:19 pm »
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I literally called my descriptions stereotypes... they weren't supposed to be nuanced. I don't actually think every person in say, Alabama, is racist.
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« Reply #3 on: Today at 05:17:36 pm »
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The blue states are the best ones overall, because of Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, the Carolinas, and Tennessee, followed by the red states. The only good green states are the pacific ones.
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