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Or in other words, why did Ford do so bad. This is Republican territory yet North Dakota only was 52-46 for Ford, South Dakota 50-49, Kansas 52-45, and Oklahoma 50-49. Yet Nebraska went 59-38 Ford. Did Carter do better than traditional Democrats in rural areas because of some sort of appeal. Did the 'good old Democrat' nature of his candidacy that won him nearly every southern state have an affect here? I'm struggling to figure this out, and why Nebraska was so Republican too.
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Watergate fatigue, but mostly because the 1973-75 recession was especially hard for agriculture.
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Oklahoma can largely be explained by the traditionally Southern Democratic areas in the southeastern part of the state; Ford did extremely well in the more developed areas like OKC.
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The humble peanut farmer played really well in a lot of rural areas. But still, Ford in the last days was able to close a huge gap between him and carter from a double digit carter victory to a 2% only margin for carter. Had those GOP voters didnt come home then carter might of won those states in the great plains.

And if you were wondering about the south, a lot of southerners were outraged over the watergate scandal. Southerners tend to give more of a backlash towards scandals than other parts of the country which was why bush in 2000 was able to swing all of the southern states that clinton won, to him by claiming he'd restore "honor and integrity to the White House"

Also in the south, he actually got out tons of evangelical christians to vote in the south by emphasizing being a born again christian. These white evangelicals were able to counter the other white southerners who voted on racial issues.  And they later switched to the GOP when they found out that carter was not the evangelical christian they'd hope he would be when in office.
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Even though many users disregard and deny the fact: Mondale delivered many voters from the Dakotas,
Kansas is a bit "Southish", and Oklahoma is part of the South.

The county map shows the geo-social behavior of the voters very well.

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Even though many users disregard and deny the fact: Mondale delivered many voters from the Dakotas,
Kansas is a bit "Southish", and Oklahoma is part of the South.

Yes, Mondale was an great asset in 1976, however mediocre he was in 1984.
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Huh this is strange, Whats with 20% of democrats voting for ford while carter only got 10% of republicans?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1976#Voter_demographics


Carter should of been the archtype democrat who could bring back the white conservative democrats back to the party. White evangelical southerner who grew up humble and had a folksy peanut farmer image. What explains why there were double of cross-party votes in favor of ford than the reverse?

If carter gained just 10% of democrats that went to ford he would of got a 400+ EV landslide
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Huh this is strange, Whats with 20% of democrats voting for ford while carter only got 10% of republicans?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1976#Voter_demographics


Carter should of been the archtype democrat who could bring back the southern and/or conservative democrats back to the party. White evangelical southerner who grew up humble and had a folksy peanut farmer image. What explains why there were double of cross-party votes in favor of ford than the reverse?

Bigotry against Carter's religion.
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Huh this is strange, Whats with 20% of democrats voting for ford while carter only got 10% of republicans?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1976#Voter_demographics


Carter should of been the archtype democrat who could bring back the southern and/or conservative democrats back to the party. White evangelical southerner who grew up humble and had a folksy peanut farmer image. What explains why there were double of cross-party votes in favor of ford than the reverse?

Bigotry against Carter's religion.

Northern Democrats and SJW liberal hacks that decided to stick with the moderate they knew than some upstart Southerner with a hick sister and beer brewing redneck brother with these conceding conservative values. (And yet they allowed Clinton and Obama both of who are rightwards to this "conservative")

These people probably voted for Kennedy in the primaries next round, the switched to Anderson or...even Reagan.
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The humble peanut farmer played really well in a lot of rural areas. But still, Ford in the last days was able to close a huge gap between him and carter from a double digit carter victory to a 2% only margin for carter. Had those GOP voters didnt come home then carter might of won those states in the great plains.

And if you were wondering about the south, a lot of southerners were outraged over the watergate scandal. Southerners tend to give more of a backlash towards scandals than other parts of the country which was why bush in 2000 was able to swing all of the southern states that clinton won, to him by claiming he'd restore "honor and integrity to the White House"

Also in the south, he actually got out tons of evangelical christians to vote in the south by emphasizing being a born again christian. These white evangelicals were able to counter the other white southerners who voted on racial issues.  And they later switched to the GOP when they found out that carter was not the evangelical christian they'd hope he would be when in office.
Ford closed the lead gradually from the DNC (down 62-29% after).  The Eastern Europe comment slowed the momentum and Carter foolishly dealing with Playboy gave Ford a second wind. 
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Huh this is strange, Whats with 20% of democrats voting for ford while carter only got 10% of republicans?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1976#Voter_demographics


Carter should of been the archtype democrat who could bring back the white conservative democrats back to the party. White evangelical southerner who grew up humble and had a folksy peanut farmer image. What explains why there were double of cross-party votes in favor of ford than the reverse?

If carter gained just 10% of democrats that went to ford he would of got a 400+ EV landslide

Everyone and their grandmother were Democrats back then.  Registered Republicans made up only a little over a quarter of the population.  The potential for Democratic crossovers to Ford therefore would naturally be larger than the opposite scenario.  Those stats you are looking at for people who identify as "Democrats", so I imagine that for 1972 the number of Democrats voting for Nixon would be somewhere in the mid thirties if not higher.

Just my five cents.
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