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« on: January 22, 2017, 12:28:52 am »
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This is the national map of Republican primary results per state with all votes for Donald Trump removed.
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2017, 12:35:45 am »
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Very interesting. Thanks for making.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2017, 03:29:08 am »
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Can u plz make a version with only solid colors instead of gradients? Colorblind, hard for me to make out results. Thx.
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2017, 05:10:12 am »
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Here is the map without gradient.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2017, 12:29:18 pm »
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You forgot to put a key for the map.
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2017, 12:34:01 pm »
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You forgot to put a key for the map.

Yellow - Cruz
Green - Rubio
Red - Kasich

I think that is correct.
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2017, 12:45:00 pm »
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All the states in which Kasich comes in second after Trump are the Adams states of 1796.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2017, 05:30:44 pm »
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Rubio would not have emerged as a serious candidate if Trump were not in the race. Though I suspect Cruz would still have surged (indeed, as a populist standard-bearer, much like Trump operated in our timeline) and that Kasich might have, too, considering that his surge in New Hampshire had little to do with Trump in a timeline where nobody in New Hampshire is getting over 20%, with Jeb, Christie, and Paul all still serious candidates, Kasich might've had a chance to win the state outright. Who knows.

I suspect Cruz would've been the nominee in such a timeline. In fact, I think if you start the clock the day after the 2012 election, there're very few timelines in which Cruz does not become the nominee.
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2017, 01:01:27 pm »
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Trump's votes would've been split up between Cruz and either Jeb, Rubio, or Kasich.  There was clearly no appetite for Jeb, Rubio I believe would have been exposed sooner rather than later, so I guess than leaves Kasich vs Cruz.
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2017, 10:23:45 pm »
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I maintain that Trump's entry fundamentally changed the race.  It's impossible to know what the primary would have looked like in a non-Trump world, but my guess is that we would have seen Walker outlast Jeb, with someone like Rubio or Cruz taking a state or two.
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People forget how much groundswell there was for Ben Carson before Trump came and absorbed all the "political outsider" hype. We'll never know if he would've been able to sustain that excitement in a Trump-less primary.
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« Reply #11 on: Today at 03:25:37 am »
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I think it would be Walker vs Bush/Kasich(who ever wins new Hampshire between them)

If its Bush vs Walker , I believe Bush wins it on Super Tuesday 2




Forget to shade ohio blue in as well but Ohio going Blue seals it for Bush

If it is kasich vs walker it goes all the way to the convention





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« Reply #12 on: Today at 08:03:54 am »
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People forget how much groundswell there was for Ben Carson before Trump came and absorbed all the "political outsider" hype. We'll never know if he would've been able to sustain that excitement in a Trump-less primary.

Cruz kind of robbed Carson in Iowa.
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