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« on: March 28, 2012, 06:18:38 am »
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By "strange", I don't mean following a fringe politican like LaRouche for instance, but uniquely weird or inconsistent. Also include people whose political views seem way out of touch with their demographics, like for instance a poor black lesbian atheist who is nonethless a staunch Republican.
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2012, 06:22:40 am »
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My grandpa is a hard-line Soivet Socialist Atheist who staunchly opposes abortion and same-sex marriage.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2012, 06:27:07 am »
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My grandpa is a hard-line Soivet Socialist Atheist who staunchly opposes abortion and same-sex marriage.

How is that strange?
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 08:14:48 am »
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 08:42:27 am »
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My grandpa is a hard-line Soviet Socialist Atheist who staunchly opposes abortion and same-sex marriage.
How is that strange?
Socialist atheist against abortion is strange. The Soviet Union was the first country to legalize abortion and Communists generally has no problem with it. But I guess his grandpa is just a staunchly Conservative man which for many Russians of his generation equals Communist.
You could argue that most old Soviet Commies are Conservatives on social issues, but I don't think that is necessarily true and "Socialist atheist Social Conservative" is an odd combo anyway.
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 09:13:08 am »
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My grandpa is a hard-line Soviet Socialist Atheist who staunchly opposes abortion and same-sex marriage.
How is that strange?
Socialist atheist against abortion is strange. The Soviet Union was the first country to legalize abortion and Communists generally has no problem with it. But I guess his grandpa is just a staunchly Conservative man which for many Russians of his generation equals Communist.
You could argue that most old Soviet Commies are Conservatives on social issues, but I don't think that is necessarily true and "Socialist atheist Social Conservative" is an odd combo anyway.
He says that dislikes Reagan, McCain, Goldwater and Bush II but he likes Gore, Giuliani, Santorum and Bush I.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2012, 03:56:06 pm »
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My dad strongly supports Romney yet is socially far-right, like very far right.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2012, 05:34:43 pm »
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Obviously my worldview is quite fringe in some of its conclusions (or influences), if anyone has been paying attention. Some of the more colorful people I know:

1. My friend Straha. A supporter of immigration reduction sympathetic to human biodiversity, eugenics, militant nationalism and neo-carmelism/formalism... That's hispanic with bisexual tendencies.

2. I know a pro-choice, anti-war, jewish former Herman Cain supporter that listens to a lot of Michael Savage and thinks cocaine should be legal but not pot because the latter is more degenerate in his opinion.

3. I know a gay/bisexual ex-christian that was homeless who despises liberalism, christianity (mostly because of the egalitarian/universalist tendencies), immigration and democracy and wants some sort of right-wing intellectual vanguard to save us "after the end."

4. My mom is sweet and likes gays and animals but her worldview is definitely pretty right-wing and nationalistic, certainly to the right of either party here. Think sort of along the lines of Bridget Bardot.

I tend to attract a lot of radicals of different stripes though, particularly on The Right (although I've known a few socialists).
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2012, 06:26:33 pm »
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Hm.

I have a friend who is gay and half-Mexican. He is atheist and hates the welfare state. He is very in favour of science and all it entails - cloning, genetically modifying humans, you name it. He is also very conservative - he likes the royal family, dressing up for the opera, drinking whisky from fancy glasses. He once proposed to bring in only immigrants that could be used as soldiers that Sweden could rent out to African war lords. He also once said he would never date anyone who could be on the cover of National Geographic. He sleeps in a suit with a poncho. And he loves to bake cakes. He also wished he were Jewish and used to stalk people he suspected of being Jewish.

I have another friend who is generally conservative (as in, thinks the 50s were a better time in many ways). He is atheist but thinks religion is good since it keeps society together. But he also wants unregulated prostitution and drug sales. He thinks an ideal society is one consisting of islands organizing themselves however they see fit.

I don't know if I find either of them particularly strange though. They're just somewhat unusual.

Oh, I know an Iranian immigrant in Sweden who thinks immigration is a big problem and multiculturalism is evil. He also thinks McCain is a liberal and Santorum is an evil bigot and that Obama is a dangerous radical (sort of).

I used to know another Iranian immigrant who was a Nazi. That was truly weird, actually.

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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2012, 06:28:12 pm »
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My mother once said that she was a socialist who didn't believe in taxes. I asked her if meant some sort of anarcho-syndicalist system or something and she had no idea what I was talking about. This is a woman making 100,000$ a year.
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2012, 06:33:42 pm »
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I understand this pretty well and don't find it particularly odd because of what I do, but I've been told that from an American perspective my friend Sayaka--Japanese-American, well-off, young--is strange because she strongly supports gay marriage but opposes premarital sex and the existence of hormonal birth control on religious (Shingon) grounds (it's the religious grounds that she supports gay marriage on, too). Also, my best friend's older sister seems to think, out of an extremely pessimistic view of the future of Western liberal capitalism, that we as a people should just sit down and find out what the most benign form of explicit feudalism probably was and reestablish a (heavily adjusted) version of that.
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2012, 09:02:26 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2012, 09:33:02 pm »
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Does Straha count as someone I know? Assuming he's serious about all his political views, which I'm starting to believe.

Not counting him, well I did mention some of the liberal charismatics I've met, and some also have some tendencies that Nathan called "left-dominionist", basically believing that Obama is God's choice to be President and Santorum will be punished for going against God's will and instead following the Pope, and believing that God is sending them messages in dreams and visions and all that, while still supporting gay marriage and the like. Oh and some of them are also pot users. That is pretty unique.
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2012, 03:01:32 pm »
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Some lady who had "Elizabeth Warren" and "Rush Limbaugh/Sarah Palin" as likes on Facebook.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2012, 03:08:55 pm »
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Straha, probably. And myself.
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2012, 03:31:59 pm »

My grandpa is a hard-line Soviet Socialist Atheist who staunchly opposes abortion and same-sex marriage.
How is that strange?
Socialist atheist against abortion is strange. The Soviet Union was the first country to legalize abortion and Communists generally has no problem with it. But I guess his grandpa is just a staunchly Conservative man which for many Russians of his generation equals Communist.
You could argue that most old Soviet Commies are Conservatives on social issues, but I don't think that is necessarily true and "Socialist atheist Social Conservative" is an odd combo anyway.
He says that dislikes Reagan, McCain, Goldwater and Bush II but he likes Gore, Giuliani, Santorum and Bush I.

I'd wager this is a pretty awful demographic for those two issues, though.  That's Al's point
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2012, 01:02:55 am »
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Also I know one Russian that hates 95% of Russians, calling them "asians". If use American system (and he is also Amerifan and dreams of M1A2 in Moscow) He is a libertartian on Economy and Social Issues, but ULTRA-HAWK on a foreign and defense policy. He supported Cain and Prokhorov for 2012 pres races Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2012, 12:41:01 pm »
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My dad is a regionalist, but at the same time he often rants about how having 10 different standards for things like education in a federal country in Canada is ridiculous and should all be standardized. He also claims that Marion Le Pen somehow supports regional languages.
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2012, 10:38:39 am »
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I think I mentioned this before once, but a former colleague of mine was a self-proclaimed  neo-conservative socialist Jew.

Which means he was a Bush/Cheney-type neo-con when it cane to foreign policy and international relations (especially Israel, Afghanistan and Iraq), but a staunch believer in Marxist theories when it came to economic and fiscal policies.
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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2012, 10:39:47 am »
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I think I mentioned this before once, but a former colleague of mine was a self-proclaimed  neo-conservative socialist Jew.

Which means he was a Bush/Cheney-type neo-con when it cane to foreign policy and international relations (especially the Middle East), but a staunch believer in Marxist theories when it came to economic and fiscal policies.

That's not at all unusual.

(I suppose maybe for Germany).
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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2012, 11:39:02 pm »
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A somewhat conservative Immigrant from Israel(obviously Jewish) who supports Putin. In fact anyone in America that would support Putin would be quite strange in my opinion.
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« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2012, 02:15:52 am »
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I knew an acid dropping hippie looking lazy guy living in a liberal area who was a Republican.
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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2012, 03:37:39 am »
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I knew an acid dropping hippie looking lazy guy living in a liberal area who was a Republican.

Ron Paul fan?
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2012, 02:30:23 pm »
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A Latino I work with agrees with my conservative views on immigration (regarding enforcement). Would support my immigration vision of federal-state partnership of registration centers (ala what Ellis Island used to be). My view is we must enforce the law and find a way to do so in a way that still respects that individual's human rights.
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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2012, 03:19:40 pm »
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I'd like to nominate myself - a transgendered pagan Zionist socialist with nationalist sympathies who's pro-capital punishment, anti-fiat and loves Ron Paul.
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