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« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2012, 06:23:14 PM »

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I propose an amendment to reduce the taxes associated with this bill. I highly doubt we would have needed as much money as the original bill was asking for.


Hence why I'm wanting to look at amendments like yours. I support this amendment FTR.
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« Reply #51 on: April 09, 2012, 06:24:23 PM »

Unless I missed something Scotts and my amendment's have passed.


I take it we will never get an answer to question of ILV and myself as to WTF happened to NPR and PBS in this game?


Senators have 24 hours to object to Sbane's amendment.
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« Reply #52 on: April 09, 2012, 06:30:11 PM »

As a former small business owner- I had many years where my business took in more then $350K and I took home less then $50K... let's not even discuss the double taxation that many small business owners (sole proprietors) face and just pretend their business income is thir personal income...

A restaurant owner takes in 400K let's say... your levy would take away $2000...that means a lot for a small business. All employees and the owner have to take that out of their salaries...prices would have to be raised potentially- $2000 for a non-necessary part of gov't doesn't seem like a fair price for me

The President seemingly forgets small businesses that will be affected by a corporate income levy- many of which make more then $350K but would still be heavily affected by this levy
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« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2012, 06:33:27 PM »

As a former small business owner- I had many years where my business took in more then $350K and I took home less then $50K... let's not even discuss the double taxation that many small business owners (sole proprietors) face and just pretend their business income is thir personal income...

A restaurant owner takes in 400K let's say... your levy would take away $2000...that means a lot for a small business. All employees and the owner have to take that out of their salaries...prices would have to be raised potentially- $2000 for a non-necessary part of gov't doesn't seem like a fair price for me

The President seemingly forgets small businesses that will be affected by a corporate income levy- many of which make more then $350K but would still be heavily affected by this levy

I'd be happy to see an amendment to address your concerns, but if the only position you're willing to have on this is "levy=tax" and "this isn't necessary" then I'm afraid we don't have much room to move.
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« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2012, 07:06:50 PM »

I move to amend the .5% to .000000000000000001% and change $350,001 and up to $100,000,001 and up
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« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2012, 09:25:28 PM »

I move to dismiss that as unrealistic.
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« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2012, 08:05:20 AM »

I am striking the amendment as functionally impractical because it doesn't reference which of two sections the first part is changing. The current bill has 0.5% tax in two different places.


The Senator may re-introduce the amendment, specifying what it amends.
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« Reply #57 on: April 10, 2012, 08:08:21 AM »


Maybe so, but even if that were the case, my preference would be to have a vote held on the amendment rather than to just have me strike it based on my personal opinion and biases with that regard.
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« Reply #58 on: April 10, 2012, 08:15:59 AM »


Maybe so, but even if that were the case, my preference would be to have a vote held on the amendment rather than to just have me strike it based on my personal opinion and biases with that regard.
Well, you can do that, but I'm dismissing it in my mind-chamber from which I type. Currently, I am the King of the Mind-Chamber and have (symbolic) authority on everything.
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« Reply #59 on: April 10, 2012, 05:06:55 PM »

Clarence?



And Sbane's amendment has 25 minutes left before passage. I will need to declare it so after it expires which probably will be after seven or eight sometime.
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« Reply #60 on: April 10, 2012, 08:42:40 PM »

Sbane's amendment has passed.
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« Reply #61 on: April 10, 2012, 08:45:47 PM »

I am sorry- what was wrong with that amendment htat I put forward?
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« Reply #62 on: April 10, 2012, 09:04:10 PM »

It was too unclear as to what it amendment when it said "0.5% tax is replaced with ...." There are two instances of "0.5% Tax in the bill. You need to specify which one you are amending which can be done in several ways.

You say, "Section.... is amended as follows:" or you can and past the text and then strike it with with the strike through feature: .
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« Reply #63 on: April 10, 2012, 11:39:14 PM »

How do I use the strike through feature?
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« Reply #64 on: April 10, 2012, 11:53:20 PM »

How do I use the strike through feature?

It is the S with a line going through it below the Message icon setting.
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« Reply #65 on: April 11, 2012, 07:28:35 PM »

I am afraid I will have to ask that amendment be re-introduced correctly no later then tomorrow.
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« Reply #66 on: April 12, 2012, 09:08:17 PM »

That amendment was somewhat facetious... I cannot support any levy on anyone for this cause
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« Reply #67 on: April 13, 2012, 08:53:45 PM »

We done here then?
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« Reply #68 on: April 13, 2012, 08:54:56 PM »

I believe so- neither side is moving an inch... but it has been a productive and fun debate
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« Reply #69 on: April 14, 2012, 06:09:38 PM »

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« Reply #70 on: April 14, 2012, 06:10:36 PM »

Senators, the Atlasian National Broadcaster Bill is now at final vote, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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« Reply #71 on: April 14, 2012, 06:14:28 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #72 on: April 14, 2012, 06:21:23 PM »

NAY


Might as well have the traditional Christmas color combination here. Tongue
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« Reply #73 on: April 14, 2012, 07:25:30 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #74 on: April 14, 2012, 08:27:37 PM »

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