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« on: March 31, 2012, 11:46:47 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2012, 11:47:19 AM »

I already have plans to rewrite this via amendment, far too complex right now.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2012, 05:01:41 PM »

At most there would be two, perhaps three. With three members on each. And they would be purpose driven.
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2012, 04:44:47 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2012, 05:46:25 PM »

Senators have 24 hours to object to the sponsor originated amendment.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2012, 05:52:03 PM »

It is what I put into the OSPR back in 2009, renamed. Basically the entire senate sets up a hearing to grill an official.


The modifications to the section from the underlying bill create the ability to establish standing committees. The amendment I offered establishes procedures with which to do that. I am still looking to simplify this, but I wanted to make sure all the procedural gaps were filled first.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2012, 05:53:01 PM »

As for activity, I ironically have in mind this being a way to boost activity, actually.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2012, 09:06:51 PM »

The amendment has passed, Current Text:

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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2012, 09:08:35 PM »

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No reason to bar the President from "gettin some" action. Wink
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2012, 07:48:07 PM »

Senators have 24 hours to object to my amendment.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2012, 07:57:58 AM »

That is one hell of a short 24 hours there Alfred. Tongue


And ILV is right, we can't have senators randomly conducting procedures. Only the VP and PPT are able to do that. MoPolitico can if both of us disappear for five days.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2012, 08:42:42 PM »

I plan to have this at a final vote tomorrow.

To start we might want create a catch all "Gov't Oversight" committee to test it out.


I think to start we can bring in Jake and grill him about what he knew about the Jersey plot and when, or maybe Ben since he has been AWOL lately. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2012, 05:45:10 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2012, 09:20:55 PM »

It is one of those things that we will find out by trying it.


Right now I would argue in this case that it is better to try, even if it doesn't work. Right now we are in an abyss of nothingness and there is only one way to end that.

I have to check one more thing on this and so a vote won't start till tomorrow.
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2012, 02:38:55 PM »

What I am concerned about now the functionality and effectiveness of the procedures in the current text. I am essentially wargamming the creation of a committee, writing the resolution to do so, the process for assigning membership as dictated and looking at efficiency.

If you think there is a better way to improve the functionality of Section 3 specifically, please feel free to share.

I still expect to have a vote open by tonight unless feedback is substantial enough to push for modificaitons for the sake of what is described above.
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2012, 03:26:55 PM »

ILV, these committees won't be passing any laws. That is and will remain the whole Senate's job. They will explore issues and create the impetus for the creation of laws.

On top of that no committees will be created by this OSPR amendment. It merely gives the Senate the ability to do so if it chooses, and lays out a process to do that.

Furthermore there is already section that deals with half of this in the OSPR, this just lengthens it and modifies it to allow for standing committees.

To put it another way, what cost possed by this is so arbitrary as to preclude it from even being tried? The answer I keep coming up with is nothing.

I find the arguement much more convincing then the arguement you want to make for changing the election method for half Senate, when last I checked both halfs were struggling from inactivity and such an alteration wouldn't acheive much in the way of fixing that for either.
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2012, 09:03:55 PM »

I just remembered I can only open votes if debate has ceased for 24 hours, or procedural actions have been taken and completed. Oh well, I don't really have time tonight to do what I wanted to here anyway.
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2012, 09:53:31 PM »

I have decided to leave it the way it is for now. We can amend it for efficiency later on. Then we will know whether it is worth it to begin with.

Vote starts tomorrow.
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2012, 08:02:52 PM »

Senators, the Committee Overshight OSPR Amendment is now at vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2012, 08:18:40 PM »

AYE


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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2012, 04:27:40 PM »

This vote needs one more Aye, or it will last till time expires.
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2012, 09:44:59 PM »

This has enough votes to pass, Senators have 24 hours to change their vote.
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« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2012, 07:36:30 PM »

Vote on Final Passage of the Committee and Oversight OSPR Amendment:

Aye (7): Alfred F. Jones, Clarence, NC Yankee, Pingvin99, Sbane, Scott, and TJ in Cleve
Nay (1): ILV
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): Nathan (Grrr!!! Angry)

With seven votes in the affirmative, the Committee and Oversight OSPR Amendment has passed the Senate. As an amendment to the "Official Senate Rules and Procedures", this doesn't require executive action.

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