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« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2012, 07:19:04 pm »
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Taxes levied on health insurance benefits as follows: 0.5% for incomes below 250% the poverty level; 2% for incomes between 250% the poverty level and $250,000; 3.5% for incomes between $250,001 and $1,000,000; and 5%5.5% for incomes above $1,000,000.
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« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2012, 07:27:59 pm »
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« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2012, 08:41:49 pm »
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Are you looking at making changes to the healthcare payroll tax along with this?

Yes, this bill raises the tax on the top bracket to 5.5%.

Does it take into account the incremental increases we passed last year that are slowly coming into effect now?
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« Reply #53 on: April 10, 2012, 08:53:07 pm »
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Are you looking at making changes to the healthcare payroll tax along with this?

Yes, this bill raises the tax on the top bracket to 5.5%.

Does it take into account the incremental increases we passed last year that are slowly coming into effect now?

It is not an income tax.
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« Reply #54 on: April 10, 2012, 08:57:09 pm »
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Are you looking at making changes to the healthcare payroll tax along with this?

Yes, this bill raises the tax on the top bracket to 5.5%.

Does it take into account the incremental increases we passed last year that are slowly coming into effect now?

It is not an income tax.

I am pretty sure that is what shua is asking about though.
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« Reply #55 on: April 10, 2012, 08:59:37 pm »
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So just to get this straight, the tax is only on the health insurance benefits themselves?
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« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2012, 09:01:10 pm »
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So just to get this straight, the tax is only on the health insurance benefits themselves?

Which tax in particular are you referring too?
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« Reply #57 on: April 10, 2012, 09:02:07 pm »
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So just to get this straight, the tax is only on the health insurance benefits themselves?

Hmm, I'm a little confused on this myself. Is this only a tax on whatever supplemental health plans people buy? Or is it like an excise tax on health services?
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« Reply #58 on: April 10, 2012, 09:05:23 pm »
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Are you looking at making changes to the healthcare payroll tax along with this?

Yes, this bill raises the tax on the top bracket to 5.5%.

Does it take into account the incremental increases we passed last year that are slowly coming into effect now?

It is not an income tax.

I am pretty sure that is what shua is asking about though.
Yeah, I'm not referring to the tax on health insurance, which turned out to only cover about one percent of the cost. I'm asking about the payroll tax passed as part of the comprehensive social security act to pay for the shortfall in healthcare funding.


Healthcare Taxes    $ 536.7 B
 Healthcare Payroll Tax  (CSSRA sec.4)              $ 525.2 B
     3% Jan-Mar, 4.5% Apr-Jun, 6% Jul-Aug, 6.5% Sep-Dec
 Health Insurance Tax   (ANHA sec.2c)                 $ 11.5 B
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« Reply #59 on: April 10, 2012, 09:08:01 pm »
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So just to get this straight, the tax is only on the health insurance benefits themselves?

Hmm, I'm a little confused on this myself. Is this only a tax on whatever supplemental health plans people buy? Or is it like an excise tax on health services?
So just to get this straight, the tax is only on the health insurance benefits themselves?

Which tax in particular are you referring too?

I'm not really sure if this raises a tax on the payroll tax or just health insurance benefits in general.  I am assuming this is separate from the payroll tax?
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« Reply #60 on: April 10, 2012, 09:12:08 pm »
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So just to get this straight, the tax is only on the health insurance benefits themselves?

Hmm, I'm a little confused on this myself. Is this only a tax on whatever supplemental health plans people buy? Or is it like an excise tax on health services?
So just to get this straight, the tax is only on the health insurance benefits themselves?

Which tax in particular are you referring too?

I'm not really sure if this raises a tax on the payroll tax or just health insurance benefits in general.  I am assuming this is separate from the payroll tax?

The payroll tax was an emergency mechanism put in place to ensure this was funded. It should be reduced or atleast have the final phase in or two cancelled leaving it at 4.5%. With the money replaced somewheres else.

I can't speak on any tax on health insurance.
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« Reply #61 on: April 10, 2012, 09:13:48 pm »
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So just to get this straight, the tax is only on the health insurance benefits themselves?

Hmm, I'm a little confused on this myself. Is this only a tax on whatever supplemental health plans people buy? Or is it like an excise tax on health services?
So just to get this straight, the tax is only on the health insurance benefits themselves?

Which tax in particular are you referring too?

I'm not really sure if this raises a tax on the payroll tax or just health insurance benefits in general.  I am assuming this is separate from the payroll tax?

The payroll tax was an emergency mechanism put in place to ensure this was funded. It should be reduced or atleast have the final phase in or two cancelled leaving it at 4.5%. With the money replaced somewheres else.

I can't speak on any tax on health insurance.

Ah, all right.  I was unclear on this.
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« Reply #62 on: April 10, 2012, 10:00:58 pm »
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So I guess it is a tax on health insurance. In that case, it wouldn't seem to be anywhere near enough to cover the benefits provided. Though I think tax receipts should increase with the new changes in effect since I think upper income Atlasians will purchase insurance to cover against losses of more than a certain amount.
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« Reply #63 on: April 12, 2012, 06:58:23 pm »
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I would recommend getting Shua's feedback on the extent of the amount.


I ask the people who designed this once more if it in fact took into account that payroll tax hike or not when it was created?
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« Reply #64 on: April 12, 2012, 07:04:14 pm »
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Yes, that was taken into account. Depending on revenue figures I was not privy to as a Senator, it is possible that some adjustments could be made.

And Mr. PPT, if you could, I much prefer "The Honorable Former Senator of the Northeast". Wink
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« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2012, 02:29:34 pm »
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I would recommend getting Shua's feedback on the extent of the amount.

are you asking me to calculate something?
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« Reply #66 on: April 15, 2012, 02:45:41 pm »
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I would recommend getting Shua's feedback on the extent of the amount.

are you asking me to calculate something?

No, but I was recommending that Sbane ask you to.
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« Reply #67 on: April 15, 2012, 10:42:49 pm »
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I would recommend getting Shua's feedback on the extent of the amount.

are you asking me to calculate something?

No, but I was recommending that Sbane ask you to.

Uh..yeah. Shua, can you please calculate how much the tax on health insurance will bring in if these changes are implented? Thanks!
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« Reply #68 on: April 15, 2012, 11:43:48 pm »
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I would recommend getting Shua's feedback on the extent of the amount.

are you asking me to calculate something?

No, but I was recommending that Sbane ask you to.

Uh..yeah. Shua, can you please calculate how much the tax on health insurance will bring in if these changes are implented? Thanks!
It will about double to $20 Billion or so, mostly because more people will be purchasing health insurance.  Not much of a change in revenue from currently in the grand scheme of things.
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« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2012, 06:41:53 am »
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That is what I would expect since most people still won't purchase insurance. The main funding for this comes from the payroll tax and general funds.

Also can you calculate how much this cost sharing will save the government?
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« Reply #70 on: April 16, 2012, 10:13:46 pm »
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« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2012, 12:09:39 am »
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« Reply #72 on: April 17, 2012, 12:34:16 am »
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Really guys? There is no consensus whether that is pseudo(alternative) health care or not. Whig war on women goes without mention.
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« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2012, 05:28:25 am »
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I voice my disapproval of the Whig War on Women.

There is no Whig War on Women. The war I see in Atalsia is the the Left's war against the Family and Faith.
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« Reply #74 on: April 17, 2012, 11:28:19 am »
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Chiropractic services
Really guys? There is no consensus whether that is pseudo(alternative) health care or not. Whig war on women goes without mention.

How did chiropractic services get dragged into this? And what does that have to do with women?
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