Do you agree with Family Guy's characterization of religion (see description)

[Big Wiggly Style]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmwBPsB0oaE

I think this sums it up pretty well.

[So the Heroes Fall]

Erm, no that's one of the rare stupid things on Family Guy. That's disappointing actually, that's almost South Park level in its juvenility and idiocy. I've always said that the only thing that would make Family Guy better is Seth accepting Christ.

The dumbest thing about it perhaps is the implication that people got along fine and there was no conflict before Christianity. Uh...

[IDS Judicial Overlord John Dibble]

The dumbest thing about it perhaps is the implication that people got along fine and there was no conflict before Christianity. Uh...

The dumbest thing is that you take it as a serious philosophical statement when it's obviously not meant to be anything more than a joke for quick laughs. Do you honestly think Seth is that stupid?

[Redalgo]

There have always been conflicts between human beings. Our beliefs about the sacred are but a sub-component of the sum of things that comprise cultures.  People may get along fine without religion but they can also get along fine with it, as well. Likewise, plenty of folks have killed each other over religious beliefs but certainly have killed for many other reasons which do not in any way pertain to such beliefs. Although some belief systems regarding the sacred certainly appear more dogmatic, hierarchical, intolerant, and so forth than others - and I reckon those tendencies can make a belief system have detrimental effects on a society - I would say the condition itself of a person being religious or non-religious is not at all a reliable indicator of how peacefully they can (or are willing to) coexist with those with whom they disagree.

[So the Heroes Fall]

The dumbest thing about it perhaps is the implication that people got along fine and there was no conflict before Christianity. Uh...

The dumbest thing is that you take it as a serious philosophical statement when it's obviously not meant to be anything more than a joke for quick laughs. Do you honestly think Seth is that stupid?

Of course not. Seth is a f**king genius, unlike the imbeciles who make South Park for example. But he does seem to have a big chip on his shoulder against Christianity and whenever he bashes it it gets incredibly stupid. Another great example being the episode where Meg began an evangelical and Brian came out as an atheist, except Brian has actually met God and Jesus Christ before, so how the hell can he be an atheist? It's a good thing at least the B-plot on that episode (Stewie kidnapping the Star Trek: The Next Generation cast) was really funny.

[IDS Judicial Overlord John Dibble]

Of course not. Seth is a f**king genius, unlike the imbeciles who make South Park for example.

Yes, we get it, you don't like South Park and therefore you think the creators are idiots. Can you please shut up about it? The rest of us are tired of hearing it. You're exactly like Cartman was in those episodes where he was against Family Guy in those episodes of South Park.

But he does seem to have a big chip on his shoulder against Christianity and whenever he bashes it it gets incredibly stupid.

I think you only dislike it because you happen to like Christianity. We atheists often find it rather funny, even if it's not always accurate.

Another great example being the episode where Meg began an evangelical and Brian came out as an atheist, except Brian has actually met God and Jesus Christ before, so how the hell can he be an atheist?

You honestly expect continuity between episodes in a show like Family Guy?

[afleitch]

I think Family Guy is a pile of sh-t but people seem to get far too angry over what is and isn't 'bashed' on Family Guy. Suck it up.

[CathKhan]

Ah, BRTD and his South Park hating. Little does he realize South Park is a far superior show. Haven't followed that link that 20RP12 linked us to (on my iPod & watching a vid always gets in the way) but I'll assume it's the one where people start killing each other as soon as the magic baby in Nazareth is born.

[Big Wiggly Style]

Ah, BRTD and his South Park hating. Little does he realize South Park is a far superior show. Haven't followed that link that 20RP12 linked us to (on my iPod & watching a vid always gets in the way) but I'll assume it's the one where people start killing each other as soon as the magic baby in Nazareth is born.

Bingo.

[So the Heroes Fall]

Of course Cathcon thinks South Park is better, he's a right winger.

[dadge]

I've always said that the only thing that would make Family Guy better is Seth accepting Christ.

C'est drole, ca.

[CathKhan]

Of course Cathcon thinks South Park is better, he's a right winger.

And of course BRTD assumes the rest of us discriminate based on politics as much as he does.

[Senator Snowstalker]

Of course Cathcon thinks South Park is better, he's a right winger.

The show which openly advocates same-sex marriage and marijuana legalization? The only right-wing episodes I can think of are ManBearPig and Tweek.

[asexual trans victimologist]

First of all, clearly South Park is better than Family Guy. The old episode of Doctor Who with the giant giant squid that is also an alien locksmith is better than Family Guy.

This characterization is of course absolute rank bull, but that's not surprising.

[hawkeye59]

Of course Cathcon thinks South Park is better, he's a right winger.

Uh, I love South Park and think it is far superior to Family Guy. For one thing, humor is not all about politics. Also, while Family Guy probably has views to the left of South Park, I can name quite a few episodes where South Park has a liberal position on an issue.
"Medicinal Fried Chicken"-supports marijauana legalization
"Follow that Egg!"-supports gay marriage
"Cartman Sucks" -against the ex-gay movement
"Butters' Bottom Bitch" -Supports legalization of prostitution
and MANY anti-censorship episodes.
Also, at least South Park's jokes are part of the plot, unlike Family Guy's.

[dead0man]

Arguing with BRTD about SP/FG is as pointless as arguing with a wall about SP/FG.  It is fun to point and laugh, but trying to explain how SP isn't EXACTLY.WHAT.HE.THINKS.IT.IS by using, ya know facts, isn't going to help.  We've been down this road a dozen times.

[hawkeye59]

Arguing with BRTD about SP/FG is as pointless as arguing with a wall about SP/FG.  It is fun to point and laugh, but trying to explain how SP isn't EXACTLY.WHAT.HE.THINKS.IT.IS by using, ya know facts, isn't going to help.  We've been down this road a dozen times.

Yeah, he just doesn't get that there's a difference between libertarian and conservative.

[So the Heroes Fall]

I probably wouldn't care so much if the show wasn't so stupid and unfunny. It's basically just "OMG CELEBRITY REFERENCE LOL!" "LOL HERE'S SOME STUPID SHOCK VALUE JOKE!"

[asexual trans victimologist]

Yes, I'd say that's a pretty good description of Family Guy.

[IDS Judicial Overlord John Dibble]

Yes, I'd say that's a pretty good description of Family Guy.

[hawkeye59]

Yes, I'd say that's a pretty good description of Family Guy.

Pretty much. Have you even seen South Park? You should watch Medicinal Fried Chicken or Last of the Meheecans or Crack Baby Athletic Association or better yet, all three, and then decide for yourself. Just go to southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/.

[So the Heroes Fall]

That's nothing like Family Guy. Family Guy is extremely witty and clever (despite the idiocy in the OP):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnuXSGBohfc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_YmV7aYVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTT2fNyKgUE
http://www.hulu.com/watch/5547/family-guy-you-have-aids

[dead0man]

Yes, I'd say that's a pretty good description of Family Guy.

And that's the funniest part of his entire schtick on this subject.  He thinks SP is EXACTLY what FG is.....which often makes me think he's just doing this for the yuk yuks.  But then I remember who we're talking about....

[IDS Judicial Overlord John Dibble]

That's nothing like Family Guy.

Well, here's a list of every single celebrity Family Guy has ever referenced in the history of ever:

http://familyguy.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Celebrities

A grand total of 664 - that's probably more than South Park.


As for shock value, it's there in droves and you know it.

Family Guy is extremely witty and clever:

At times, sure. Just like South Park.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnuXSGBohfc

Your obsession with this one thing that isn't particularly witty or clever, and frankly isn't even close to the funniest things Family Guy has ever done, is strange.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_YmV7aYVE

Funny because of the shock value.

[CathKhan]

BRTD, why do you keep bringing up clips that do not make your case. I can laugh at Family Guy. But God damned Sneakers O'Tooler is fuckin' stupid. And Vietname War memorial? Like I said before, that isn't even funny in the sense of "it's  funny, but it's not appropriate to laugh at". It's just straight up not funny. It's just so damn stupid, I don't see why you continually present that as somehow an example of Family Guy being funny. Damn it!