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« on: April 02, 2012, 12:41:04 PM »

Erm, no that's one of the rare stupid things on Family Guy. That's disappointing actually, that's almost South Park level in its juvenility and idiocy. I've always said that the only thing that would make Family Guy better is Seth accepting Christ.

The dumbest thing about it perhaps is the implication that people got along fine and there was no conflict before Christianity. Uh...
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2012, 12:57:26 PM »

The dumbest thing about it perhaps is the implication that people got along fine and there was no conflict before Christianity. Uh...

The dumbest thing is that you take it as a serious philosophical statement when it's obviously not meant to be anything more than a joke for quick laughs. Do you honestly think Seth is that stupid?

Of course not. Seth is a f**king genius, unlike the imbeciles who make South Park for example. But he does seem to have a big chip on his shoulder against Christianity and whenever he bashes it it gets incredibly stupid. Another great example being the episode where Meg began an evangelical and Brian came out as an atheist, except Brian has actually met God and Jesus Christ before, so how the hell can he be an atheist? It's a good thing at least the B-plot on that episode (Stewie kidnapping the Star Trek: The Next Generation cast) was really funny.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2012, 02:32:17 PM »

Of course Cathcon thinks South Park is better, he's a right winger.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2012, 11:36:33 PM »

I probably wouldn't care so much if the show wasn't so stupid and unfunny. It's basically just "OMG CELEBRITY REFERENCE LOL!" "LOL HERE'S SOME STUPID SHOCK VALUE JOKE!"
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2012, 09:08:28 AM »
« Edited: April 04, 2012, 09:12:59 AM by Minute-Hour-Day-Week-Month-Year-(The Faiths In My Chest) »

That's nothing like Family Guy. Family Guy is extremely witty and clever (despite the idiocy in the OP):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnuXSGBohfc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_YmV7aYVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTT2fNyKgUE
http://www.hulu.com/watch/5547/family-guy-you-have-aids
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2012, 09:48:08 PM »

The difference is that I'm sure the vast majority of those celebrities referenced were just in one off jokes. South Park only references them as the core of the plot.

BRTD, why do you keep bringing up clips that do not make your case. I can laugh at Family Guy. But God damned Sneakers O'Tooler is fuckin' stupid. And Vietname War memorial? Like I said before, that isn't even funny in the sense of "it's  funny, but it's not appropriate to laugh at". It's just straight up not funny. It's just so damn stupid, I don't see why you continually present that as somehow an example of Family Guy being funny. Damn it!

Sneakers O'Toole is the greatest 20 seconds in the history of television. Seriously this clip is super-discussed and even has a Facebook group for Sneakers O'Toole, all just for 20 seconds. I've posted before on four possible interpretations of the meaning of the clip. Can you name any 20 second clip in South Park comparable? And the Vietnam War memorial joke is awesome because it shows that Family Guy is a progressive show willing to stand up to imperialism, nationalism and the military-industrial complex. South Park never would.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2012, 10:12:29 PM »

Uh pretty much the only thing of that that applies to me is the "textbook liberal agenda" bit.
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2012, 10:56:12 AM »

Actually I don't like the Giant Chicken fights, since they are basically just filler. Family Guy is better when it does a ton of really quick jokes in the ilk of Sneakers O'Toole instead of really long things, other examples I love:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpWsihWzo_I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW9Mym1ODhU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iE4uEsaBF0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrJIJqUI6U0

And Team America: World Police struck me as nationalistic anti-liberal garbage.
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2012, 11:39:26 PM »

It showed Michael Moore as a terrorist supporting suicide bomber and liberal celebrities as terrorist sympathizers. It was like the whole "If you oppose Bush you are an America hater!" garbage so common at the time. Also I thought the pro-Iraq War undertones were fairly obvious.
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2012, 10:39:08 AM »

So by that logic wouldn't it be likely that Seth MacFarlane is actually a conservative and Family Guy is just satirizing liberals and trying to make them look bad?
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2012, 12:03:38 AM »

Most people on this forum are like Hitler here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=hGXv-GkHfV8
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2012, 12:51:30 AM »

I get the impression the video was made simply to mock Family Guy detractors, and that the creator does like Family Guy since Hitler's "arguments" are pretty silly. Then again that might be putting too much thought into a memetic mutation result video.
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2012, 12:46:52 AM »

Yes, this is similar to if I made a "satire" of Republicans that was like a guy basically saying "Look at me, I'm a Republican. Haha, I hate blacks and poors. *shoots some blacks and poor looking people*"

Of course Seth would never do that, his anti-Republican satire is far more intelligent and biting. But whenever he bashes Christianity it's just stupid.
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2012, 12:53:18 AM »

There's an entire Facebook group dedicated to Sneakers O'Toole, so I'm not the only one. And how pointless it is is EXACTLY the appeal. What does it mean? What's the point of it? The complete absurdity of it is the source of the humor, I think one YouTube comment for once summed it up well by pointing out the joke was that Brian, normally the sane voice of reason is the one to introduce such a ridiculous and out of nowhere character. And in a completely seriously deadpan way too.

And if you want to see just how far people are willing to read into Sneakers O'Toole: http://theconvictor.livejournal.com/76961.html
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2012, 01:04:55 AM »

And really the similarity of that clip to South Park was that South Park does "satire" in the same way, it has no sense of subtlety and is Anvilicious as hell. Everything the creators want to say they beat you over the head with. A trait found in just about all conservative "comedy" I might add.
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2012, 11:32:44 AM »

Here's an example of a brilliant satirical attack on right wingers by Family Guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXDl_Q5xpZU
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