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« on: April 04, 2012, 10:40:23 pm »
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New Poll: Pennsylvania President by Public Policy Polling on 2012-04-04

Summary:
Romney:
42%
Santorum:
37%
Paul:
9%
Gingrich:
6%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
6%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

Q2 The Republican candidates for President are

Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, and

Rick Santorum. If the election was today, who

would you vote for?

Newt Gingrich ................................................. 6%

Ron Paul ......................................................... 9%

Mitt Romney.................................................... 42%

Rick Santorum................................................ 37%

Someone else/Not sure .................................. 6%
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 10:57:43 pm »
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lol
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2012, 11:10:53 pm »
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Nah.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2012, 11:16:45 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2012, 11:42:51 pm »
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This could be an outlier.  While the polls are showing a tightening, this just seems like too massive a shift.

I'd like to see some other polls.

OTOH, if this is accurate, Santorum is in full collapse.  He's sinking faster than the Edmund Fitzgerald , if this is accurate.
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2012, 11:59:12 pm »
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Intrade has Romney at 90% to win PA, though it's been seemingly overconfident before it's usually picked the winner.

Personally, I'm hoping for Santorum to lose by more than 18 points.
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2012, 12:04:42 am »
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This could be an outlier.  While the polls are showing a tightening, this just seems like too massive a shift.

I'd like to see some other polls.

OTOH, if this is accurate, Santorum is in full collapse.  He's sinking faster than the Edmund Fitzgerald , if this is accurate.

But it seems to me that a great many on this forum seem to put a lot of stock in PPP polling. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2012, 12:18:52 am »

This could be an outlier.  While the polls are showing a tightening, this just seems like too massive a shift.

I'd like to see some other polls.

OTOH, if this is accurate, Santorum is in full collapse.  He's sinking faster than the Edmund Fitzgerald , if this is accurate.

But it seems to me that a great many on this forum seem to put a lot of stock in PPP polling. 

There's a resason for it:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=151643.msg3253143#msg3253143

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PS: Could still be an outlier though, I remember that PPP blew the 2008 DEM Primary in PA.
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2012, 12:41:35 am »
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Some state have been shown to be very resistant to national momentum. PA is not one of those states and I knew that before seeing this poll.

Some states are simply demographically bad for Romney. PA is not one of those states.

Some states are retail states that are won and lost by who runs around and meets the most people and some states are media market states that retail politics is less important in and what is more important is the ability to better saturate the airwaves with ads. PA is a media market state.

If Romney wants to win Pennsylvania I could see him doing so in a landslide because of the above factors.

Paul is just there to raise awareness of his pet political issues. Newt knows he is at the end of his political career so he doesn't have much to lose by staying in, Santorum believes he has a long time left to go in politics which is why Santorum has the most to lose by staying in. The RNC has lost its patience with the race and will not take kindly to Santorum trying to fight to the convention.
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2012, 12:49:12 am »

I feel a little bit sorry for Sarah Maria. She might cry again in about 3 weeks ...

Another note: This poll was taken yesterday evening, so a Romney-surge from his wins in WI, MD and DC could be reflected in this poll already.
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2012, 08:20:40 am »
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Okay, this is over, drop out Rick. Don't embarrasse yourself (again).

Genuinely believe he'd be a better nominee than Romney, but whatever (and i'm not trollin').
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2012, 11:31:29 am »
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This could be an outlier.  While the polls are showing a tightening, this just seems like too massive a shift.

I'd like to see some other polls.

OTOH, if this is accurate, Santorum is in full collapse.  He's sinking faster than the Edmund Fitzgerald , if this is accurate.

But it seems to me that a great many on this forum seem to put a lot of stock in PPP polling. 

I do too, but there is the corollary to J. J.'s First Rule to Elections:

Never trust just one poll.  Trust several and remember that the electorate changes its mind quickly.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2012, 06:55:40 pm »
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Nah.

First stage:  Denial 
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2012, 08:37:52 pm »
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I know. We've been telling you for months that you have real issues and your refusal to act puts you firmly is this stage.
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I know. We've been telling you for months that you have real issues and your refusal to act puts you firmly is this stage.

I wouldn't call it denial.  But polls are not good for Santorum.  He has weakened, and may be collapsing. 
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2012, 12:32:13 am »
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Even IF Santorum wins Pennsylvania, after you factor in the 3 WTA states, Romney only needs 37% of the remaining delegates (assuming the unpledged delegates vote the way they're "supposed" to... not 100% accurate, but close enough).  The point is, with Romney leading in CA, NY, and not far behind in TX and PA, it'll take a miracle for him not to be the nominee mathematically before convention.
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