CT to repeal the death penalty

[shua]

Unborn do not kill people.

Unborn is not a part of society.

Are people on death row part of society?

[Senator Napoleon]

Since the death penalty is more expensive than feeding and housing a prisoner for a life sentence, any Republican or Libertarian who supports the death penalty is a hypocrite.

Don't forgo logic simply because your opponents do. That makes you the hypocrite.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Unborn do not kill people.

Unborn is not a part of society.

Are people on death row part of society?

Uhhh...

Yes?

[memphis]

Any of the conservative Catholics who get so sincere and devoted to life over the issue of contraception care to take this opportunity for ideological consistency? Doubt it.

[Yelnoc]

Unborn do not kill people.

So you accept that fetuses and humans are different then?

A fetus is an unborn human.  Unless you want to argue a fetus is a different species, you should consider thinking before typing.

Unborn do not kill people.

Unborn is not a part of society.

Are people on death row part of society?

Uhhh...

Yes?

How so?  They seem fairly isolated from society to me.

[Governor Scott]

All human-beings are endowed with the right to life from natural conception to natural death.*
*convicts not included

[Frodo]

Any of the conservative Catholics who get so sincere and devoted to life over the issue of contraception care to take this opportunity for ideological consistency? Doubt it.

Why this concentration on Catholics as opposed to the devout Protestants on this forum? 

[memphis]

Any of the conservative Catholics who get so sincere and devoted to life over the issue of contraception care to take this opportunity for ideological consistency? Doubt it.

Why this concentration on Catholics as opposed to the devout Protestants on this forum? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_capital_punishment

[Harry]

Any of the conservative Catholics who get so sincere and devoted to life over the issue of contraception care to take this opportunity for ideological consistency? Doubt it.

Why this concentration on Catholics as opposed to the devout Protestants on this forum? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_capital_punishment

Actually, I believe the only Catholic on this forum who is actually against birth control is also anti-death penalty, but it's possible I'm misremembering.

[politicus]

Unborn do not kill people.

Unborn is not a part of society.

Are people on death row part of society?

Uhhh...
Yes?

How so?  They seem fairly isolated from society to me.

A prison is a part of society - even if it is a rather secluded part of it. Everyone that interacts with other people are part of society. Inmates do write letters, receives visits and talk to guards, lawyers, priests etc.

[True Federalist]

All human-beings are endowed with the right to life from natural conception to natural death.*
*convicts and murder victims not included

Fixed.

I'm in favor of capital punishment, but not as it is practiced in this country.  It's too much of a lottery whether you get a death sentence and it takes way too long between crime and execution unless the murderer decides to commit the equivalent of assisted suicide by halting his appeals.

Since the Supreme Court has ruled that making the penalty for all murders be the death penalty is unconstitutional, I don't see anyway to get a useful capital punishment systenm in this country without passing an amendment.

[jimrtex]

Any of the conservative Catholics who get so sincere and devoted to life over the issue of contraception care to take this opportunity for ideological consistency? Doubt it.

The Roman Catholic church is extremely anti-capital punishment.

[So the Heroes Fall]

Any of the conservative Catholics who get so sincere and devoted to life over the issue of contraception care to take this opportunity for ideological consistency? Doubt it.

Why this concentration on Catholics as opposed to the devout Protestants on this forum? 

Which Protestants here are against contraception?

[Frodo]

Any of the conservative Catholics who get so sincere and devoted to life over the issue of contraception care to take this opportunity for ideological consistency? Doubt it.

The Roman Catholic church is extremely anti-capital punishment.

Yes, and they are also against birth control as well -and how many Catholics in the United States listens to the Vatican on that score?

[pillage the village, trash the scene]

Disgusting.

I have a question: since you are so attached to having the death penalty, would you have balls to personally push the button?

I'd push.

[Proud Lieberal from Northeast]

Unborn do not kill people.

Unborn is not a part of society.

Are people on death row part of society?

They used to be, unlike unborns, that just may become ones.

[Vasall des Midas]

Unborn do not kill people.

Unborn is not a part of society.

Are people on death row part of society?

Yes. That's the whole point of society. You can't just fire members.

[ZuWo]

This is a step in the right direction, in my opinion. Keep these criminals in prison forever, that also does the job of protecting society from violence. But then again, make sure that a life-long prison sentence really means "life-long".

[I Can't Get That Sound You Make, Out Of My Head]

lol @ pro-life members on this forum being pro-death penalty.

[Purch]

lol @ pro-life members on this forum being pro-death penalty.

No different than Liberals defending a women's right to kill a fetus and at the same time demonizing anyone who wants to kill an inmate convicted of a major crime.


Both Liberals and Conservatives contradict themselves to such an extreme. At least be consistent on your views across the board.


I'm anti abortion and anti death penalty for the exact same reason. I feel life should be protected from the moment I'm conceived to the moment I'm convicted of a crime.  

[Tik]

It can be argued that a criminal who has taken away someone's rights has forfeited his own. I have read some on here argue this.

[Vasall des Midas]

It can be argued that a criminal who has taken away someone's rights has forfeited his own. I have read some on here argue this.

The hypocrisy is not in the position but in the term "pro-life" for "would like to see abortions illegal". Not that I particularly care or don't think there's worse terms out in today's politics, but that's what it is.

[Insula Dei]

Good

[shua]

Unborn do not kill people.

Unborn is not a part of society.

Are people on death row part of society?

Yes. That's the whole point of society. You can't just fire members.

Completely inclusive societies are far from the norm.

[asexual trans victimologist]

Any of the conservative Catholics who get so sincere and devoted to life over the issue of contraception care to take this opportunity for ideological consistency? Doubt it.

Why this concentration on Catholics as opposed to the devout Protestants on this forum? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_capital_punishment

Actually, I believe the only Catholic on this forum who is actually against birth control is also anti-death penalty, but it's possible I'm misremembering.

I distinctly remember TJ following Church line on this as on that issue, yes.