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JohnnyLongtorso
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« on: April 05, 2012, 09:20:40 PM »

I'm sure most of you guessed correctly: it's Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus.

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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 10:16:39 PM »

I'm in no way defending this Clerk, and the rest of WI shows that the state's procedures work fine everywhere else. However, what I have seen is that the pressure to have a winner on election night during the initial news coverage leads to errors. Federal law requires a review of provisional and absentee ballots that typically takes up to three weeks. There are other cross checks that a well run election office will also use to certify results. In a close race all that can matter, and the public and media will have to show patience if they want elections with trustworthy results.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2012, 12:43:06 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2012, 01:38:05 AM »

It is one thing to show patience in order to get an accurate count. But this is NOT the case here: Nicklaus has shown that she needs more time than everyone else to provide a result that is more prone to errors (at best) than anybody else. She is incompetence personified here.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2012, 01:44:37 AM »

The issue isn't slowness. On election night 2004, Iowa sent its vote counters to bed with Iowa still too close to call. That's unusual, but fine.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2012, 11:43:50 AM »

Who is this, and what did she do?
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2012, 04:34:12 PM »


Do counties administer elections in Wisconsin?
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2012, 05:09:16 PM »

What do you mean by 'administer' elections? I imagine that they must be overseen at the precinct level and then aggregated up to the county level, before being aggregated at the state level. If there is a block at the county level with poor aggregation, it can certainly throw a wrench into things. Is it done differently in Texas?
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2012, 08:49:37 PM »


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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2012, 05:06:32 AM »

Remember, she was hilariously incompetent even before she forgot to include a town in the results of that Supreme Court race:


This isn't really strike two or three for her, honestly; it's pretty much strike ten or twelve.
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2012, 10:24:43 PM »

What do you mean by 'administer' elections? I imagine that they must be overseen at the precinct level and then aggregated up to the county level, before being aggregated at the state level. If there is a block at the county level with poor aggregation, it can certainly throw a wrench into things. Is it done differently in Texas?
In Texas, state elections are administered by the counties, typically by the county clerk; with the tax assessor-collector keeping the voting rolls (a vestige of when Texas did not have voter registration; and you would bring your poll tax receipt to vote).   Some counties have independent election administrators who are appointed (the county clerk and tax assessor-collector are partisan elected offices).

Each county will prepare the ballots, buy/rent voting machines, define election precincts, arrange for polling places, hire election judges and clerks, maintain voting rolls,   Each county would finance their own elections.

This is not to say that there aren't state standards and requirements that the counties must comply with, and that their isn't some state funding, but primary responsibility in on the county level.

On election night the votes are tabulated for each election precinct and each office at the county level.  The vote totals for statewide and multi-county offices are transmitted to the state level where they are added together.  If there is a recount each county would conduct the recount of the votes cast in the county.

Cities, school districts, MUDs and other districts are responsible for administering their own elections.  Sometimes they contract with the county to conduct the election, and counties can conduct unified elections, so you might not only vote for state legislator, but school board member on the same ballot.   In other instances, the city or school district may just rent the voting equipment and other services from the county, and have their own polling places, and in other cases they might simply do everything themselves with paper ballots.   Cities and counties may extend across county lines, so a city or school district might have to coordinate with more than one county.   In all these cases, the county would provide the voting rolls, since registration is maintained at the county level.

I won't try to explain party primaries.

I think this is a fairly standard administrative structure particularly in the South and West where there aren't townships, or townships have limited government functions.   Alaska and Hawaii administer elections statewide.  Alaska doesn't have anything like counties, at least not across the state, and Hawaii doesn't have significant county governments.

But areas in New England where there towns and townships are the main level of universal local government, and counties are only used to make the census bureau happy, may administer elections at the town level.  Wisconsin and Michigan, which were strongly influenced by New England also administer election at the town level.

So it is my understanding is that whoever is responsible for Waukesha County elections is mainly responsible for totally votes from elections administered by townships in the county.  Since the primary theme of the Democrats is victimization, they have to blame someone for anything and everything.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2012, 10:44:18 PM »
« Edited: April 07, 2012, 10:46:08 PM by Beet »

Well that all seems really hard and complex, jimrtex (the way you write it, anyway). If the people at the township level can do all that successfully, you would think this Nicholaus woman could at least aggregate the results of all that hard work together successfully.

We're all big victims of her incompetence. Big victims. (Also notice my avatar).
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