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« on: April 07, 2012, 10:55:49 am »
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There will only be three types of threads posted until then:

- What about xxx for Vice President?
- Make a map of Obama/Biden vs. Romney/xxx
- How would the hypothetical independent candidacy of xxx affect the race?

Let's just save ourselves some time and end it now.
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2012, 10:58:43 am »
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Just ignore the board. That's what I intend on doing.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2012, 10:59:29 am »
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Oh great, this board might get even worse than it was 1-2 years ago during that process. How much I hate the VP selection process.
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2012, 11:02:17 am »
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Yeah this board was a lot more interesting before Romney won the nomination.
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2012, 11:13:13 am »
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I actually like those three types of posts, so I think we ought to keep the board up and running through Inauguration Day 2013 when we need to start turning our attention to the 2014 mid-terms and the 2016 Presidential Election.
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My earlier comment notwithstanding, I do think that the site would be better off if Inks left his position. (The fact that the village idiot has dropped in to express his support for him only confirms this.)
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2012, 11:14:19 am »
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I actually like those three types of posts, so I think we ought to keep the board up and running through Inauguration Day 2013 when we need to start turning our attention to the 2014 mid-terms and the 2016 Presidential Election.

Oh I'm sure you do.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2012, 11:17:34 am »
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Plus, despite it's dry spells the 20xx presidential election boards are, to me, the anchor threads of this forum.  I don't think this forum, in all its greatness and longevity, would be around if it weren't for the Presidential Elections.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2012, 11:18:36 am »
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Well, actually this is the place to monitor the gaffes and stumbles and two-steps and so forth of Obama and Mittens. I failed to notice by the way much about Obama's launch of his "war on the courts."  So many wars, so little time.
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2012, 11:35:21 am »
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Oh great, this board might get even worse than it was 1-2 years ago during that process. How much I hate the VP selection process.

would McDonnell clinch NC for Romney?
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2012, 11:46:02 am »
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Oh great, this board might get even worse than it was 1-2 years ago during that process. How much I hate the VP selection process.

would McDonnell clinch NC for Romney?

He's a neighboring state governor!
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2012, 01:27:11 pm »
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I think it's important that we heavily moderate and attempt to keep up the quality of discussion on the board during that time.  There will also be an influx of guest views during that time and it would be wise to give the impression that the board isn't a hangout for the mentally retarded. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2012, 02:31:27 pm »
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I think it's important that we heavily moderate and attempt to keep up the quality of discussion on the board during that time.  There will also be an influx of guest views during that time and it would be wise to give the impression that the board isn't a hangout for the mentally retarded. 

Too late!! Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2012, 03:11:13 pm »
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Meeker, you forgot a fourth, and incomparably more stupid, type.

"What if Obama drops Biden and picks XXX?"
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2012, 06:15:43 pm »
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There will only be three types of threads posted until then:

- What about xxx for Vice President?
- Make a map of Obama/Biden vs. Romney/xxx
- How would the hypothetical independent candidacy of xxx affect the race?

Let's just save ourselves some time and end it now.

Meeker, there is, of course, the fourth type of thread, which you failed to mention.

The let's bash Romney again thread, which includes troll posts asking stupid questions and making stupid statements about the next President of the United States, Mitt Romney.

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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2012, 06:18:57 pm »
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Hey everyone, who do you think will make the best VP for Romney?

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

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President Obama has topped predecessor George W. Bush in another poll, but not one he would like.

In a new Quinnipiac University Poll, 33% named Obama the worst president since World War II, and 28% put Bush at the bottom of post-war presidents.

OBAMA WORSE THAN DUBYA!  WHO KNEW?
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2012, 07:20:05 pm »
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There will only be three types of threads posted until then:

- What about xxx for Vice President?
- Make a map of Obama/Biden vs. Romney/xxx
- How would the hypothetical independent candidacy of xxx affect the race?

Let's just save ourselves some time and end it now.

Meeker, there is, of course, the fourth type of thread, which you failed to mention.

The let's bash Romney again thread, which includes troll posts asking stupid questions and making stupid statements about the next President of the United States, Mitt Romney.

Cheesy

I can see Romney's road to the White House being:
2008: Run for President, lose in primaries.
2012: Run for President, lose in November despite winning the PV.
2013-2015: The Restore Mitt's Future PAC spends millions pushing states to sign on to the NPVIC.
2016: Run for President, and this time win the PV and not need the EV.

It's not a likel roady, but it is far more likely than Romney winning without a crisis between now and Novermebt.
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2012, 07:28:59 pm »
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There will only be three types of threads posted until then:

- What about xxx for Vice President?
- Make a map of Obama/Biden vs. Romney/xxx
- How would the hypothetical independent candidacy of xxx affect the race?

Let's just save ourselves some time and end it now.

Meeker, there is, of course, the fourth type of thread, which you failed to mention.

The let's bash Romney again thread, which includes troll posts asking stupid questions and making stupid statements about the next President of the United States, Mitt Romney.

Cheesy

I can see Romney's road to the White House being:
2008: Run for President, lose in primaries.
2012: Run for President, lose in November despite winning the PV.
2013-2015: The Restore Mitt's Future PAC spends millions pushing states to sign on to the NPVIC.
2016: Run for President, and this time win the PV and not need the EV.

It's not a likel roady, but it is far more likely than Romney winning without a crisis between now and Novermebt.


You think the electoral college screws Mittens that bad eh?  Why?  I don't quite see that myself, particularly given that NH is out there.
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2012, 07:49:59 pm »
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I think we are on the verge of moving into general election mode.  This board should stay up.
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2012, 08:01:42 pm »
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I think we are on the verge of moving into general election mode.  This board should stay up.

I would argue we're in GE mode, already, despite having 4 big states left to have their voice (PA, NY, TX, CA).
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2012, 08:13:01 pm »
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You think the electoral college screws Mittens that bad eh?  Why?  I don't quite see that myself, particularly given that NH is out there.

A simple uniform swing from 2008 to a PV tie still leaves Obama with a healthy 303-235 victory.

Even if Mittens picks up not just the three states he gains from a uniform swing (NC, IN, FL), but also Nevada, Iowa, and New Hampshire, he still loses 287-251.

(The polling from Iowa indicates it is likely to trend considerably more Republican than the national swing, and Nevada and New Hampshire are the states people like to tout a "home state" effect for Mitt, but I don't see it being enough on its own to swing Nevada, and post-primary polls have shown New Hampshire as no longer having the huge Republican trend they did pre-primary, but for purposes of argument I'll concede that Romney might be able to improve there by November more than he does nationally.)

Romney will need at least Ohio and probably both Ohio and Virginia to win and I can easily see Romney having a narrow national PV win and losing one or both of them.  If Romney can get to 51-48 his EV weakness might not cost him, but at 50-49, I think it will.

While there won't be a uniform swing, for Romney to not lose the EV in a close PV contest requires an awful lot of the states that trend Republican by more than the national swing be the tossup states and that would be a bit of astounding luck on Romney's part.
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« Reply #20 on: April 07, 2012, 10:21:59 pm »
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But doesn't everybody want 3 solid months of Romney VP speculation?  Cheesy
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OBAMA WORSE THAN DUBYA!  WHO KNEW?
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2012, 10:26:04 pm »
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But doesn't everybody want 3 solid months of Romney VP speculation?  Cheesy

I'm not sure about everybody wanting 3 months of veepstakes, but I think we're going to get it whether we like it or not.
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2012, 03:34:45 pm »
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You think the electoral college screws Mittens that bad eh?  Why?  I don't quite see that myself, particularly given that NH is out there.

A simple uniform swing from 2008 to a PV tie still leaves Obama with a healthy 303-235 victory.

Even if Mittens picks up not just the three states he gains from a uniform swing (NC, IN, FL), but also Nevada, Iowa, and New Hampshire, he still loses 287-251.

(The polling from Iowa indicates it is likely to trend considerably more Republican than the national swing, and Nevada and New Hampshire are the states people like to tout a "home state" effect for Mitt, but I don't see it being enough on its own to swing Nevada, and post-primary polls have shown New Hampshire as no longer having the huge Republican trend they did pre-primary, but for purposes of argument I'll concede that Romney might be able to improve there by November more than he does nationally.)

Romney will need at least Ohio and probably both Ohio and Virginia to win and I can easily see Romney having a narrow national PV win and losing one or both of them.  If Romney can get to 51-48 his EV weakness might not cost him, but at 50-49, I think it will.

While there won't be a uniform swing, for Romney to not lose the EV in a close PV contest requires an awful lot of the states that trend Republican by more than the national swing be the tossup states and that would be a bit of astounding luck on Romney's part.

Romney picks up Ohio from a uniform swing to an even PV - easily. He gets all he needs from a uniform swing (including VA which is about 0.5% on the GOP side of the ledger), except for NH. NH is the key.
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2012, 04:19:54 pm »
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It's just a good thing Morden is a mod, I remember him being one of the most irritated people at stupid speculation in 2008.
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2012, 04:57:09 pm »
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Hey everyone, who do you think will make the best VP for Romney?

Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

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