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« on: April 08, 2012, 02:49:58 pm »
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Unlike me some of you seem to think that the VP choice matters a great deal, so out of curiosity which Republican governor or senator would be the worst possible VP choice for Romney? Would there be a candidate, that could cost him 10%?
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2012, 02:53:43 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2012, 03:00:32 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2012, 03:06:40 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2012, 03:13:47 pm »
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Unlike me some of you seem to think that the VP choice matters a great deal, so out of curiosity which Republican governor or senator would be the worst possible VP choice for Romney? Would there be a candidate, that could cost him 10%?
Among governors or senators? Probably not. Tom Coburn or Rand Paul might come close.

Basically a VP pick is irrelevant unless it makes some people question the candidate's sanity and good judgment (not counting partisans of the other side that were already convinced that such sanity was questionable, obviously). Eagleton being the textbook example, though other picks - Dan Quayle! - have had much more minor but effectively similar effects.
Even then, much depends on the media response. I mean, Republicans got away with picking Dick Cheney and Sarah Palin recently with no ill effects.
I don't think you can win votes with a VP pick, though there will be  hacks that do think so.

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Thankfully West is neither a Governor nor a Senator. And as to the literal "Worst Possible VP for Romney"... I think a random 35-year old Black homeless person with mental problems and a few felony convictions would be an even worse pick than West. Grin
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2012, 03:15:07 pm »
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I think a random 35-year old Black homeless person with mental problems and a few felony convictions would be an even worse pick than West. Grin


Yeah, the multiple felonies would really hurt him in comparison to West.
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2012, 04:21:35 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2012, 05:12:07 pm »
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What a turnaround too. Last year he ruled out being a Presidential candidate or a VP choice.
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2012, 05:23:57 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2012, 05:25:28 pm »
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Olympia Snowe or Mary Fallin.

What's wrong with Fallin? She's conservative, could help solidify the South's support for Romney, and has more than enough experience for VP.
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Olympia Snowe or Mary Fallin.

What's wrong with Fallin? She's conservative, could help solidify the South's support for Romney, and has more than enough experience for VP.
Guess its the infidelity allegations about her and the state trooper - her own little "troopergate".

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« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2012, 05:36:41 pm »
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Olympia Snowe or Mary Fallin.

What's wrong with Fallin? She's conservative, could help solidify the South's support for Romney, and has more than enough experience for VP.
Guess its the infidelity allegations about her and the state trooper - her own little "troopergate".

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Only a Congressman, so he doesn't count. But the guy does sound horrible - both his political views and personal life.

That hasn't stopped Nikki Haley or Sarah Palin from still being talked about as presidential material.
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2012, 06:07:39 pm »
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Quote from: politicus on April 08, 2012, 02:49:58 pm
Unlike me some of you seem to think that the VP choice matters a great deal, so out of curiosity which Republican governor or senator would be the worst possible VP choice for Romney? Would there be a candidate, that could cost him 10%?
Among governors or senators? Probably not. Tom Coburn or Rand Paul might come close.

Either of those probably would help him with as many people as they'd hurt.
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2012, 06:16:46 pm »
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Olympia Snowe or Mary Fallin.

What's wrong with Fallin? She's conservative, could help solidify the South's support for Romney, and has more than enough experience for VP.
Guess its the infidelity allegations about her and the state trooper - her own little "troopergate".

Quote from: independentTX on April 08, 2012, 04:05:21 pm
Joe Walsh
Only a Congressman, so he doesn't count. But the guy does sound horrible - both his political views and personal life.

That hasn't stopped Nikki Haley or Sarah Palin from still being talked about as presidential material.

The Haley rumors are just that, rumors.  Practically no one believes them, and those who do are probably like the birthers convinced that Obama's a Muslim, people who hate her so much that even if something bad isn't true, they think it should be.

Not that I think Haley would help the GOP ticket more than an average VP choice would help, but she wouldn't be a disaster of a pick.  (Sticking up for Haley is a weird feeling, so please people, stop mentioning her in the veepstakes.)
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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2012, 06:24:44 pm »
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Olympia Snowe or Mary Fallin.

What's wrong with Fallin? She's conservative, could help solidify the South's support for Romney, and has more than enough experience for VP.
Guess its the infidelity allegations about her and the state trooper - her own little "troopergate".

Quote from: independentTX on April 08, 2012, 04:05:21 pm
Joe Walsh
Only a Congressman, so he doesn't count. But the guy does sound horrible - both his political views and personal life.

That hasn't stopped Nikki Haley or Sarah Palin from still being talked about as presidential material.

Yes, that hasn't stopped them as (unelectable) presidential material.
Falin is a hack. too. And from a state that Obama would lose even against David Duke (and by a huge margin).

Romney doesn't need to solidify the South to win the election (McCain won there and remember how it worked). He has to appeal to voters in NV, OH, NH, PA and FL to win.
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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2012, 06:28:01 pm »
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Are former ones allowed? Governors Palin, Schwarzenegger, or Taft would all be awful picks.
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Thankfully West is neither a Governor nor a Senator. And as to the literal "Worst Possible VP for Romney"... I think a random 35-year old Black homeless person with mental problems and a few felony convictions would be an even worse pick than West. Grin

OP was TLDR. But among sitting governors and senators, it would be hard to do worse than David Vitter.
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Are former ones allowed? Governors Palin, Schwarzenegger, or Taft would all be awful picks.

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Quote from: Tmthforu94 on April 08, 2012, 02:53:43 pm
Olympia Snowe or Mary Fallin.

What's wrong with Fallin? She's conservative, could help solidify the South's support for Romney, and has more than enough experience for VP.
Guess its the infidelity allegations about her and the state trooper - her own little "troopergate".

Quote from: independentTX on April 08, 2012, 04:05:21 pm
Joe Walsh
Only a Congressman, so he doesn't count. But the guy does sound horrible - both his political views and personal life.

That hasn't stopped Nikki Haley or Sarah Palin from still being talked about as presidential material.

Yes, that hasn't stopped them as (unelectable) presidential material.
Falin is a hack. too. And from a state that Obama would lose even against David Duke (and by a huge margin).

Romney doesn't need to solidify the South to win the election (McCain won there and remember how it worked). He has to appeal to voters in NV, OH, NH, PA and FL to win.

I wouldn't call her a hack, but I'm just saying that "alleged" infidelity doesn't disqualify someone. Fallin never had proof against her that she was in an affair, just like the accusations against Haley and Palin weren't supported with evidence either.
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2012, 07:30:21 pm »
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2012, 07:40:31 pm »
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Current Govs/Senators?  Jan Brewer and David Vitter come to mind.
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