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Question: The USA PATRIOT ACT is challenged and reaches the Supreme Court.  How is it ruled?
Constitutional; law upheld   -16 (76.2%)
Unconstitutional; law overturned   -4 (19%)
Other   -1 (4.8%)
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Author Topic: SCOTUS Scenario #2  (Read 163 times)
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« on: April 27, 2012, 01:55:09 pm »
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Discuss.

Please only vote on what you think would happen under the current judges, not what you want to happen.
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2012, 02:00:39 pm »
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See #1 answer.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2012, 03:03:31 pm »
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Option 1 would be the ruling, Option 2 is what should happen.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2012, 09:48:39 pm »
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Option 1, most likely 9-0 although I could see Thomas or one of the liberals dissenting.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2012, 10:10:42 pm »
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The PATRIOT Act as a whole would not be a court case. It could only be challenged on a specific grounds, for a case that would only deal with those elements of the law. In fact it has been, in Holder vs Humanitarian Law Project, and the court upheld restrictions on communications with terrorist groups, 6-3.
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"Those who begin coercive elimination of dissent soon find themselves exterminating dissenters. Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard. . . But freedom to differ is not limited to things that do not matter much. That would be a mere shadow of freedom. The test of its substance is the right to differ as to things that touch the heart of the existing order."
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