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« on: April 10, 2012, 09:05:43 pm »
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Ignoring that I'd be way to right wing for most countries, here's what I would align with:


USA: Republican
UK: UK Independence Party
Germany: CDU
Israel: Likud
Canada: Conservative
Australia: National Party/ Liberal Party Coalition (I'd register Liberals as that is Abbott's party)
Denmark: Conservative People's Party
Italy: The People of Freedom Party
Russia: United Russia
France: Independent
Austria: OVP, Would've supported the Jewish National Party when it existed.
Ireland: Fine Gael
Spain: People's Party

Parties I would have at one time supported:

France: Union for a Popular Movement (I used to like Sarkozy)
UK: Tories (Cameron and those protests in London turned me off from the party)
Israel: Yisrael Beiteinu (Those Anti-American Jews ad's pissed me off. But Danny Ayalon is awesome and is making the party look better in my eyes. I hope he eventually becomes PM in
like 6 years.)
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2012, 12:46:46 am »
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UNITED RUSSIA?
Man, they're evil! Elections are rigged for them (ballot stuffing) and they're full of corruption - they even recieved a "party of crooks and thieves" nickname in the Russian Internets.

USA: Constitution
UK: BNP
Germany: Freedom
Israel: National Union
Canada: Christian Heritage
Australia: Family First
Denmark: Danish People's Party
Italy: Tricolour Flame
Russia: National Democratic Alliance (nazdem.info)
France: National Front
Ireland: Sinn Fein
Switzerland: SVP
Austria: FPO/FPK
Sweden: Sweden Democrats
Estonia: Estonian Independence
Netherlands: Party for Freedom
Poland: National Revival (for the lulz)
Spain: Republican Social Movement
New Zealand: New Zealand First
Greece: Golden Dawn (just because of mining)
Finland: True Finns
Taiwan: Kuomintang
Serbia: Serbian Radical Party
Belgium: Vlaams Belang
Portugal: National Renovator
Ukraine: Svoboda
Bulgaria: ATAKA
Slovenia: Slovenian National
Czech Republic: National Party
Croatia: Croatian Party of Rights
Romania: Greater Romania Party
Lebanon: Kataeb
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2012, 09:32:56 am »
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UK: Labour
US: Democrats
Northern Ireland: UUP or DUP
Republic of Ireland: No idea, all their parties seen... crap. Would've probably gone for Labour or FIne Gael last year. Anyone but Sinn Fein basically.
France: Socialist Party
Germany: Normally SDP, but probably would've voted Die Linke or Die Grunen in 2009
Netherlands: Socialist, former Labour, but would've been anyone's for the taking in 2010
Denmark: Social Democrats (Quite like Helle)
Spain: Socialist Workers PSOE
Austria: SDP, whoever was best placed to stop the FPO from being in government
Greece: Would've gone for PASOK in 2009. Like everyone else in Greece, i'd have no idea now, probably either Democratic left or Syriza.
Canada: NDP
Australia: ALP
New Zealand: Labor
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2012, 11:38:41 am »
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UK: BNP
Germany: Freedom
Israel: National Union
Canada: Christian Heritage
Australia: Family First
Denmark: Danish People's Party
Italy: Lega Nord
Russia: National Democratic Alliance (nazdem.info)
France: National Front
Ireland: Sinn Fein
Switzerland: SVP
Austria: FPO/FPK
Sweden: Sweden Democrats
Estonia: IRL
Netherlands: Party for Freedom
Poland: PiS/LPR
Spain: People's Party
New Zealand: New Zealand First
Greece: Popular Orthodox Rally
Finland: True Finns
Aren't several of these parties neo-Nazis/fascists who hate immigration?
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2012, 12:17:25 pm »
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Germany : Either Greens or Die Linke (whatever vote is likely to have a bigger impact). The SPD is just not a left-wing party anymore.

France : Parti Socialiste. Not a fantastic party, but the only serious progressive political force. I could see myself voting EELV as well sometimes, if they run a good campaign and if it wouldn't threaten the left as a whole.

UK : Labour, though I would have been very reluctant to do so in the New Labour era. Without hindsight, I would have voted LibDem in 2010 (yes, you can laugh at me now).

Italy : I will vote for SEL and generally support Vendola every time I have an occasion to. He is probably the greatest politician Italy has had since the 1970s. Before his rise, I would probably have voted for IdV or the radicals. Very rarely for the PDS/DS/PD.

Spain : Most certainly PSOE, since it's the only decent left-wing party. It is obviously flawed in the way most European left parties are, but it's still my best fit.

Poland : SLD and probably most of its previous incarnations. Hard to find a party I would really like.

Netherlands : Either PvdA, GroenLinks or the Socialist Party, I need to learn more about them to be sure. Most likely GL though.

Greece : Nowadays, probably Dimar. Traditionally PASOK (especially since I quite liked Papandreou).

Belgium : The wallon Socialists.

Portugal : Hard to choose between a bunch lefty nutjobs and a center-left party which isn't quite left-wing anymore. Probably PS in the end.

Sweden : I would have supported the Social Democrats since their creation. To put it short, they were my ideal party. Even though they've been very disappointing in recent years, I would stay fidel to them out of respect for their historical accomplishments.

Austria : Heck, I guess either the Greens or SPÖ when they aren't too moderatish. I'd certainly join the SPÖ bandwagon if it's necessary to stop the fascists.

Switzerland : Well, SPS I guess, but don't care much.

Denmark : Usually the Social Democrats out of traditions, but I would have gone for the Socialist People's Party in 2011.

Finland : Meh, all parties seem dull and uninspiring. Social Democrats by default.

Norway : Labour quite easily.

Ireland : Labour. SF could be a possibility, but I'm not sure.

USA : As my avatar says, I'd register as a Green out of spite toward Obama and his inability to take strong stances and to change things substantially (even when he had the leverage to). I'd obviously vote for Democrats 90% of the time.

Canada : Pretty easily NDP, especially under Layton.

Australia : Labour, I guess.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2012, 02:00:25 pm »
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Also edited some of these. After further research I would never support the French National Front. So I put independent for France.
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2012, 02:32:22 pm »
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Also edited some of these. After further research I would never support the French National Front. So I put independent for France.

If you're not a fan of the National Front, you'd loathe the BNP.
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2012, 02:41:47 pm »
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US: Libertarian/independent
UK: UKIP (though if I ran for office, then as a Tory)
Northern Ireland: independent (vote Sinn Fein for Westminster, Alliance or stay home for Stormont)
Germany: FDP I guess, maybe The Republicans if they're close to the threshold and in Euro elections
Israel: If forced to stay, one of the Arab parties
Canada: Independent; probably stay home or protest vote; Tories if you put a gun to my head
Australia: Katter's outfit or some other protest vote I guess, Liberals are downright evil
Denmark: The Liberal Alliance sounds the best
Italy: Italian politics are awfully confusing, but probably one of the minor rightist outfits
Russia: Yabloko
France: independent; protest vote for the Lepenistes or one of those minor agrarian euroskeptic outfits
Ireland: Fianna Fail usually, mainly out of sentimentality
Switzerland: SVP (the only ones who opposed going off the gold standard, getting rid of banking secrecy etc.)
Austria: FPO or BZO (protest vote)
Sweden: Centre Party or Christian Democrats
Estonia: Reform Party
Netherlands: VVD, possibly PVV as a protest vote
Poland: Dunno, that Congress of the New Right thing seems intriguing bit also seems to have troubling associations
Spain: nationalists, probably reluctantly PP in Castile
New Zealand: ACT
Greece: no idea
Finland: Probably Centre Party
Portugal: CDS-PP
Belgium: Ethnic politics are always too confusing...
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2012, 02:45:52 pm »
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Gosh...Why are European right wingers so anti-immigrant!?!!? I mean I only oppose illegal immigration. And I support reasonable quotas (not based on race, but based on country.)

BNP, and National Front are just...extreme.

I agree with them on social policy (Pro-Life), and I strongly support their economic policies.


Oh, and apparently BNP is anti-semitic too!?!? ...I changed it back to independent. UK's parties really suck :X


EDIT: UK Independence Party seems OK, so I put that...

Gosh, UK's right wing parties suck...

Fake conservatives like the Tories, and borderline neo-nazis like BNP...



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Gosh...Why are European right wingers so anti-immigrant!?!!? I mean I only oppose illegal immigration. And I support reasonable quotas (not based on race, but based on country.)

Most Europea countries are ethnically based nation states, so multiculturalism will change the core identity of the nation. If you are a Conservative you are naturally inclined to be against that without (necessarily) being a bigot or a racist. So many Conservative Europeans are anti-immigration. In immigrant countries like the US, immigration does not in the same way challenge the essence of your identity, so its easier for an American to be both Conservative and pro (legal) immigration.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2012, 05:43:09 pm »
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UK: Labour
US: Democrats
Northern Ireland: UUP or DUP
Republic of Ireland: No idea, all their parties seen... crap. Would've probably gone for Labour or FIne Gael last year. Anyone but Sinn Fein basically.
France: Socialist Party
Germany: Normally SDP, but probably would've voted Die Linke or Die Grunen in 2009
Netherlands: Socialist, former Labour, but would've been anyone's for the taking in 2010
Denmark: Social Democrats (Quite like Helle)
Spain: Socialist Workers PSOE
Austria: SDP, whoever was best placed to stop the FPO from being in government
Greece: Would've gone for PASOK in 2009. Like everyone else in Greece, i'd have no idea now, probably either Democratic left or Syriza.
Canada: NDP
Australia: ALP
New Zealand: Labor

This, exactly this.

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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2012, 05:45:32 pm »
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BNP, and National Front are just...extreme.

I agree with them on social policy (Pro-Life), and I strongly support their economic policies.

Really? They support the re-nationalization of various industries.
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Gosh...Why are European right wingers so anti-immigrant!?!!? I mean I only oppose illegal immigration. And I support reasonable quotas (not based on race, but based on country.)

Most Europea countries are ethnically based nation states, so multiculturalism will change the core identity of the nation. If you are a Conservative you are naturally inclined to be against that without (necessarily) being a bigot or a racist. So many Conservative Europeans are anti-immigration. In immigrant countries like the US, immigration does not in the same way challenge the essence of your identity, so its easier for an American to be both Conservative and pro (legal) immigration.

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US: Republican
UK: Tory or UKIP, would depend on which constituency I was living in. DUP in NI.
Germany: CDU
Israel: Likud
Denmark: PFD
Australia: Liberal
Italy: PdL
France: UMP
Netherlands: PVV
Spain: PP
India: Independent, would vote INC because I loathe the BJP's ethnic nationalism.
Sweden: Moderate
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These things are usually amusingly mindless in most cases, but whatever:

USA: probably an independent, but obviously one who votes almost exclusively for Democrats (unless they're stupid moderate hero Blue Dogs) because the GOP is a far-right extremist party.

Canada: The Liberals are the least horrible party and they can sometimes manage to be quite decent, though often totally incompetent. Above all, however, my shtick is being anti-Conservative and anti-Harper in whatever way possible. That is the real issue.

Mexico: all the parties are various shades of horrible, but the PAN, despite its less appealing elements (conservatism, ties to the Church) is the most competent and tolerable of the three main parties. It is a pity that the PSD wasn't able to keep its ballot line, because they were the only party which I could back without afterthoughts.

Chile: Pinera has generally been awful, so I'd back the Concertacion by default. Probably the PRSD if forced to choose a party.

Brazil: only personality matters, so ideally some non-corrupt moderate progressive/centre-leftist. I'd have voted for Marina Silva in 2010, but I've been impressed by Dilma.

UK: It would depend heavily on the constituency, local candidates and a bunch of other factors. I would vote for the SNP, Plaid and Mebyon Kernow in their respective regions; but in England I'd be on the fence. If forced, I'd vote Labour because the Coalition is horrible and Clegg is a douchebag. But sadly I'd have voted LibDem in 2010 and probably before that during the Blair years, especially 2005. I could consider the Greens, but I'm not really a fan.

Ireland: Not a big fan of any party, but Labour I can stomach pretty easily. In Northern Ireland, I'd vote Alliance or SDLP. Maybe Green too.

Germany: I would be a fairly loyal Green voter, but I might be tempted by the Pirates these days. All other parties suck.

France: I dislike all parties, but some are clearly more horrible than others. Unfortunately, the largest parties are all various shades of horrible (or horror) and I refuse to vote for any of the useless goons they put up in the first round. EELV is, for me, the most tolerable party even though it should grow up a bit. I long for a Borloo/ARES-like centrist social liberal alternative which is serious and competent, but alas. Of course, if I could, I'd happily vote for a regionalist candidate in a hurry (parties such as the PNC, PB and so forth).

Italy: The Italian left gives the LPC a run for its money on the issue of being totally incompetent, so I doubt I'd vote for the PD if other choices - on the left, naturally; the Italian right is not worth sh**t - came up. Antonio has convinced me to like Nichi Vendola, so I'd vote SEL in the next election. Otherwise I'd flirt with the IdV at times, and in the past I would have loved the Radicals.

Spain: Certainly I'd rather die in boiling water than vote PP, but the PSOE is certainly not a great party. Naturally, in Euskadi and other regions, I'd vote for the regionalist option (PNV, CiU, BNG, Compromis, CHA) if they were decent or tolerable - the PNV is of course a great party. Otherwise, I could vote PSOE if they didn't piss me off too much (which is fairly easy to do, it seems). In 2011, I'd have voted Equo or a small party outside the peripheral regions.

Portugal: The main parties are not too great, though not downright horrible either. I'd probably vote PS, but the BE is pretty nice sometimes too. Some of the tiny parties are nice too.

Poland: In 2011, the Palikot Movement would certainly have gotten my vote. Otherwise, the parties generally suck. Some suck more than others, with PiS and the right generally being ghastly; while PO is pretty sucky but very tolerable. I'd vote SLD if they got their act together.

Netherlands: The Netherlands doesn't vote correctly, but it does have great parties. D66 and GroenLinks are very close to my views. The other parties, meh, not so great (of course, the PVV is horrible). The PvdD is nice.

Belgium: Ecolo in Wallonia, Groen! in Flanders. All others aren't worth my time.

Greece: Elections won't matter anymore in Greece, therefore I'd obviously vote KKE. Given how downright horrible the other parties are (besides maybe Syriza and DIMAR), I wouldn't have much afterthoughts. If I felt more serious, I'd vote Green. ND, PASOK and LAOS should disband or go DIAF.

Croatia: The HDZ has become far more tolerable, especially under Kosor, but I'd obviously have vote for Kukuriku in 2011. The HNS and IDS are my preferred parties.

Serbia: The LDP is the party I'd prefer, but I would strategically vote for any halfway decent moderate pro-European politician or party like Tadić and the DS.

Hungary: The new green party, LMP, given that all other parties are beyond horrible or they just suck.

Czech Republic: The Greens were fine before they died off, now all parties are pretty sucky. I really don't like the ODS, so I might hold my nose and vote CSSD, hopefully they have a competent leader now, not a useless douchebag.

Sweden: Reinfeldt leads one of the few right-wing governments in the world which I actually *like* and the left, though good in the past, has become fairly crappy or stupid in recent years. I'd probably vote for the Centre Party, with their new liberal-greenish twist.

Denmark: Pretty clearly the Social Liberals (B). All other parties tend to be horrible, though F and Unity List are tolerable despite being too leftie for my personal tastes.

Finland: Besides PS, the parties aren't horrible as much as they're boring. The Green League is my preferred party.

Norway: I like the Labour Party, but my favourite party is Venstre, which is one of my favourite parties in the world.

Austria: Getting the hell out of Austria is the first priority, but if I couldn't, then the Greens obviously. The LIF were cool during their brief existence. I might stomach the SPÖ if it was necessary, somehow, to block the Nazis.

Switzerland: A bit useless, but the Greens or GreenLiberals. The CSP is nice too sometimes.

Israel: New Movement-Meretz is by far the best, though Shinui was cool back in its days too.

Turkey: the Kurd nationalists, but the CHP has gotten a bit less horrible now. The ÖDP is not relevant, but it's a cool party.

South Africa: Certainly DA, the ANC and IFP are horrible nowadays and COPE is a fat joke.

India: Most parties are totally useless, but the INC are obviously the good guys here though it is unfortunate they ally with not-so-good guys. The BJP is just horrible.

Thailand: All parties suck balls, but the Democrat Party is the one I'd feel less dirty after voting for. They still suck, though.

Taiwan: I'm not sure how I feel about the Big Issue in Taiwan, and I'd be a swing voter, but I would probably lean towards the Pan-Greens/DPP.

South Korea: The Korean right is ghastly, the liberals have not been competent since Kim Dae-jung, but I'd still lean towards them.

Japan: I'm not pleased with the DPJ's performance in government, but they are on the good side now that Ozawa has been sidelined a bit. They are still the good guys against the LDP, but I could vote for the JCP or something over them at times.

Australia: The ALP are the good guys when stacked against Tony the Nutjob's Liberals, but I can't say I'm much of a fan of the ALP in government. I would vote Green in almost all cases in first preferences (AU Democrats in the past), but I'd direct my preferences for 2PP to Labor to defeat the Coalition.

New Zealand: Green or Māori Party. John Key, however, has been a fairly decent Prime Minister.
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Australia: Liberal
Canada: Conservative
Germany: Christian Democrat
Greece: New Democracy
Israel: Likud
Japan: New Democrat
New Zealand: National
Poland: Civic Platform
Taiwan: Kuomintang
United Kingdom: Conservative (Thatcherite)
United States: Republican, if I lived in New York, Conservative
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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2012, 12:10:04 pm »
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Do all our Republicans know the Australian Liberals actually banned gun-owners from joining the party?
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Do all our Republicans know the Australian Liberals actually banned gun-owners from joining the party?

As horrible as that is, I'd still vote for Pro-Life Abbott's party.

They are generally close to me politically, I guess.

John Howard was a great PM from the Liberal Party.
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USA: Libertarian
UK: UK Independence
Germany: die Piraten
Australia: National
New Zealand: NZ First
Ireland: Sinn Fein
Finland: True Finns
Japan: probably Democratic
Switzerland: People's Party
Argentina: the conservative wing of the Justicialist Party
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UK: Conservative
Germany: CDU
Israel: Kadima
Canada: Conservative, formerly PC
Australia: Liberal
Denmark: Venstre
Italy: People of Freedom
Russia: Yabloko
France: UMP
Ireland: Fine Gael
Switzerland: CVP or Green Liberal
Austria: OVP
Sweden: Moderate
Estonia: Estonian Reform
Netherlands: VVD
Poland: PO
Spain: PP
New Zealand: National
Greece: New Democracy
Finland: Kokoomus
Portugal: PSD
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2012, 07:31:35 pm »
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US: Democrats
UK: Labour
Australia: Greens, with Labor getting preferences.
Canada: NDP
France: Parti Socialist
Russia: They all suck

I need to think more for the other ones.
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2012, 08:20:21 pm »
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USA: Libertarian

UK: UK Independence Party

Germany: FDP

Israel: Ugh, none.

Canada: Libertarian Party of Canada

Australia: Liberal Party

Denmark: Liberal Alliance

Italy: Italian Radicals

Russia: Right Cause

France: UMP

Austria: Alliance for the Future of Austria

Ireland: Fianna Fail

Spain: CIU...?

Finland: Pirate Party. Seriously.
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In most cases, whatever party is a member of Socialist International.
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2012, 11:27:27 pm »
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Canada: Greens in theory, but NDP in reality
USA: Democrats... I wish we had more legitimate third parties Sad
Mexico: bleh, if I was Mexican, probably PRI or PRD?
Brazil: Worker's Party I think.

rest of Latin America is rather unappealing in terms of ideological maturity.

Ireland: Green? Labour?
UK: Liberal Democrat
France: EELV, Far-Left, then Socialist
Switzerland: Greens
Belgium: Ecolo
Netherlands: GL
Germany: Green
Denmark: Socialist People's Party, Social Democrats, or Red-Greens (lots of fun!)
Norway: Socialist Left or Labour
Sweden: Green
Finland: Green League
Poland: Palikot's Movement
Israel: Meretz, Labour? rather depressing choices for a nation I love.

I don't know enough about the rest of the Mediterranean and Eastern Europe. I would hopefully just leave Russia... it's that bad.

South Africa: ...DA, maybe. ANC possibly if they weren't so corrupt. I liked IDs before they merged.
Zimbabwe: MDC
Japan: SDP, Greens, or DPJ; not sure how elections work here just yet.
Korea: United Progressive Party or Democratic United Party (how'd they lose the last election exactly?)
Hong Kong: The Frontier before their merger, lots of other choices; would probably depend on candidates and election style.
Burma: NLD
Singapore: Singapore Democratic Party, Worker's Party
Australia: Greens, Labour
New Zealand: Greens

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« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2012, 04:18:03 am »
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USA: Libertarian

UK: UK Independence Party

Germany: FDP

Israel: Ugh, none.

Canada: Libertarian Party of Canada

Australia: Liberal Party

Denmark: Liberal Alliance

Italy: Italian Radicals

Russia: Right Cause

France: UMP

Austria: Alliance for the Future of Austria

Ireland: Fianna Fail

Spain: CIU...?

Finland: Pirate Party. Seriously.

You wouldn't like UMP. They are borderline xenophobic on immigration and utterly backwards on all social issues.
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22:15   ComradeSibboleth   this is all extremely terrible and in all respects absolutely fycking dire.

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