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« on: April 11, 2012, 08:35:27 pm »
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So there seems to be a lot of paranoia on the American Right about the mainstream networks (other than Fox News) having a left-wing liberal bias.

Was this the case before Fox News was created in 1996? A few right-wingers over here accuse the BBC of the same thing, but it's not a thing you see all posted over the comments sections of major political and news websites.
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2012, 08:57:46 pm »
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i'm only 28 but there has been charges of a liberal media since the media existed. In the Cold War, it was thought that if you read the New York Times, you were a "red".
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2012, 09:02:00 pm »
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Oh yes, and in my youth, the networks as to their national news product were biased left - all three of them. Cronkite specialized in letting you know with his intonations, as to whom he found favor, and with whom he didn't. I actually find less bias today, considerably less, outside those who are not really considered News people, but rather commentators - Matthews, Hannity, O'Reilly, Maddow, etc.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2012, 09:58:29 pm »
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Agree with Torie 100%, though my history doesn't go back as far as his.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2012, 10:35:48 pm »
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Oh yes, and in my youth, the networks as to their national news product were biased left - all three of them. Cronkite specialized in letting you know with his intonations, as to whom he found favor, and with whom he didn't. I actually find less bias today, considerably less, outside those who are not really considered News people, but rather commentators - Matthews, Hannity, O'Reilly, Maddow, etc.

Yes, and there was a rather famous interview with Cronkite from 1973, where was asked, "Is there any truth in the view that television newsmen tend to be left of center?"

Cronkite said:  "Well, certainly liberal, and possibly left of center as well.  I would have to accept that ... But I don't think there are many who are far left.  I think a little left of center probably is correct."

I think cable has provided a place for people with different ideologies to gravitate.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2012, 11:21:01 pm »
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In short, yes.  In long, yes, of course.  What would make you think otherwise?
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2012, 08:52:56 am »
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The right's not paranoid. It's just that the whole world is out to get them.
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2012, 04:22:15 pm »
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The right's not paranoid. It's just that the whole world is out to get them.

I never knew you though Cronkite was on the right?
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2012, 04:42:59 pm »
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In short, yes.  In long, yes, of course.  What would make you think otherwise?

Well, he's not American.
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2012, 11:51:07 pm »
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The right's not paranoid. It's just that the whole world is out to get them.

I never knew you though Cronkite was on the right?
Not so much any one figure as the entire media establishment. Never a word about poverty or a million other problems that are endemic in every community in America. Instead, you get a circus of fear and flag waving. Same as it ever was.
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2012, 01:45:47 am »
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The right's not paranoid. It's just that the whole world is out to get them.

I never knew you though Cronkite was on the right?
Not so much any one figure as the entire media establishment. Never a word about poverty or a million other problems that are endemic in every community in America. Instead, you get a circus of fear and flag waving. Same as it ever was.

Oh, please.  They even faked footage of poverty on CBS (1968).
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2012, 01:50:58 am »
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Torie sums it up well... the difference between some one like Cronkite (the most trusted man in America) and some one like Maddow or Hannity is the last two- folks know they are biased... for a Cronkite or even a Brian Williams/David Gregory (not accusing either of bias) there is no expectation of it so it can be hidden more easily
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