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State Comptroller Atkins
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Question for older posters
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So there seems to be a lot of paranoia on the American Right about the mainstream networks (other than Fox News) having a left-wing liberal bias.
Was this the case before Fox News was created in 1996? A few right-wingers over here accuse the BBC of the same thing, but it's not a thing you see all posted over the comments sections of major political and news websites.
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freepcrusher
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April 11, 2012, 08:57:46 pm »
i'm only 28 but there has been charges of a liberal media since the media existed. In the Cold War, it was thought that if you read the New York Times, you were a "red".
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Torie
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April 11, 2012, 09:02:00 pm »
Oh yes, and in my youth, the networks as to their national news product
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biased left - all three of them. Cronkite specialized in letting you know with his intonations, as to whom he found favor, and with whom he didn't. I actually find less bias today, considerably less, outside those who are not really considered News people, but rather commentators - Matthews, Hannity, O'Reilly, Maddow, etc.
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Sam Spade
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Agree with Torie 100%, though my history doesn't go back as far as his.
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J. J.
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Quote from: Torie on April 11, 2012, 09:02:00 pm
Oh yes, and in my youth, the networks as to their national news product
were
biased left - all three of them. Cronkite specialized in letting you know with his intonations, as to whom he found favor, and with whom he didn't. I actually find less bias today, considerably less, outside those who are not really considered News people, but rather commentators - Matthews, Hannity, O'Reilly, Maddow, etc.
Yes, and there was a rather famous interview with Cronkite from 1973, where was asked, "Is there any truth in the view that television newsmen tend to be left of center?"
Cronkite said: "Well, certainly liberal, and possibly left of center as well. I would have to accept that ... But I don't think there are many who are
far
left. I think a little left of center probably is correct."
I think cable has provided a place for people with different ideologies to gravitate.
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April 11, 2012, 11:21:01 pm »
In short, yes. In long, yes, of course. What would make you think otherwise?
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The right's not paranoid. It's just that the whole world is out to get them.
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Quote from: memphis on April 12, 2012, 08:52:56 am
The right's not paranoid. It's just that the whole world is out to get them.
I never knew you though Cronkite was on the right?
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J. J.
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The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Quote from: dead0man on April 11, 2012, 11:21:01 pm
In short, yes. In long, yes, of course. What would make you think otherwise?
Well, he's not American.
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Quote from: J. J. on April 12, 2012, 04:22:15 pm
Quote from: memphis on April 12, 2012, 08:52:56 am
The right's not paranoid. It's just that the whole world is out to get them.
I never knew you though Cronkite was on the right?
Not so much any one figure as the entire media establishment. Never a word about poverty or a million other problems that are endemic in every community in America. Instead, you get a circus of fear and flag waving. Same as it ever was.
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Quote from: memphis on April 12, 2012, 11:51:07 pm
Quote from: J. J. on April 12, 2012, 04:22:15 pm
Quote from: memphis on April 12, 2012, 08:52:56 am
The right's not paranoid. It's just that the whole world is out to get them.
I never knew you though Cronkite was on the right?
Not so much any one figure as the entire media establishment. Never a word about poverty or a million other problems that are endemic in every community in America. Instead, you get a circus of fear and flag waving. Same as it ever was.
Oh, please. They even faked footage of poverty on CBS (1968).
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April 13, 2012, 01:50:58 am »
Torie sums it up well... the difference between some one like Cronkite (the most trusted man in America) and some one like Maddow or Hannity is the last two- folks know they are biased... for a Cronkite or even a Brian Williams/David Gregory (not accusing either of bias) there is no expectation of it so it can be hidden more easily
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