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« on: April 11, 2012, 08:45:28 pm »
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Following his departure as H.W. Bush's Secretary of Defense, Cheney briefly flirted with the idea of running for president in '93-'94. What if Cheney had decided to throw his hat in the ring and ultimately won the GOP nod. How would the election turn out? Any ideas who Cheney would have selected as his running mate?
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2012, 08:48:34 pm »
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One of the reasons Cheney didin't want to run, according to Bob Woodward, was that a member of his family was gay and he didn't want some huge media expose. As I recall, that family member was actually his daughter. Anyway, I'm wondering how that might affect the election and how Cheney would explain his views on gay rights and the reaction from the Religious Right (Cheney supports gay rights, on marriage at least).
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2012, 08:53:37 pm »
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One of the reasons Cheney didin't want to run, according to Bob Woodward, was that a member of his family was gay and he didn't want some huge media expose. As I recall, that family member was actually his daughter. Anyway, I'm wondering how that might affect the election and how Cheney would explain his views on gay rights and the reaction from the Religious Right (Cheney supports gay rights, on marriage at least).

Actually, Cheney didn't really become vocal about his support of gay rights until early 2009. Prior to that, he stated he was against gay marriage and thought it was a state's rights issue. Granted, this position is not nearly as conservative as many members of his party, but it's still not a full endorsement of gay rights.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2012, 08:55:53 pm »
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One of the reasons Cheney didin't want to run, according to Bob Woodward, was that a member of his family was gay and he didn't want some huge media expose. As I recall, that family member was actually his daughter. Anyway, I'm wondering how that might affect the election and how Cheney would explain his views on gay rights and the reaction from the Religious Right (Cheney supports gay rights, on marriage at least).

Actually, Cheney didn't really become vocal about his support of gay rights until early 2009. Prior to that, he stated he was against gay marriage and thought it was a state's rights issue. Granted, this position is not nearly as conservative as many members of his party, but it's still not a full endorsement of gay rights.

Well in '09, Cheney was no longer involved in electoral politics either. Wink
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2012, 03:34:20 pm »
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One of the reasons Cheney didin't want to run, according to Bob Woodward, was that a member of his family was gay and he didn't want some huge media expose. As I recall, that family member was actually his daughter. Anyway, I'm wondering how that might affect the election and how Cheney would explain his views on gay rights and the reaction from the Religious Right (Cheney supports gay rights, on marriage at least).

Actually, Cheney didn't really become vocal about his support of gay rights until early 2009. Prior to that, he stated he was against gay marriage and thought it was a state's rights issue. Granted, this position is not nearly as conservative as many members of his party, but it's still not a full endorsement of gay rights.

Well in '09, Cheney was no longer involved in electoral politics either. Wink

Exactly my point -- any political opinions on the subject expressed by Cheney during his time as VP would most likely reflect those he would've expressed if he had mounted a run for the presidency in '96.
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2012, 05:47:09 pm »
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Yeah, this is probably what I would've guessed, too. Clinton wins with 340 to Cheney's 198. Any guess as to who Cheney's running mate would've been?
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2012, 07:43:03 pm »
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Yeah, this is probably what I would've guessed, too. Clinton wins with 340 to Cheney's 198. Any guess as to who Cheney's running mate would've been?

Connie Mack would have been a good pick.
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election 1912
Underwood: 267 Cutchens: 264 Lafolette: 0 Debs: 0 266 to win
election 1916
Underwood (i): 224 Curtis: 254 Johnson: 53 266 to win
House Underwood (i): 26 Curtis: 12 Johnson: 10 25 to win
election 1920
Roosevelt: 260 Lowden: 271 McAdoo: 0 266 to win
election 1924
Thomas: 262 Lowden (i): 269 266 to win
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2012, 07:44:18 pm »
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Cheney would not have done better then Dole... sure Dole was tainted by Gingrich but was more personally popular then Cheney would have been
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2012, 07:46:54 pm »
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A Cheney Presidency would be quite interesting.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2012, 08:51:48 pm »
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A Cheney Presidency would be quite interesting.



I think you've had enough Cathcon.  Throw me your car keys and let me have a hit of whatever you're on.  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2012, 12:36:29 pm »
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A Cheney Presidency would be quite interesting.


I think you've had enough Cathcon.  Throw me your car keys and let me have a hit of whatever you're on.  Wink
Interesting =/= good. I agree with Cathcon.
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2012, 06:06:42 pm »
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Why would Cheney do any better than Dole in the South/border states?
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2012, 06:18:55 pm »
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Clinton won Louisiana with 12% and Missouri with 6% over Dole. Why would he loose those to Cheney? He also won Arizona, Kentucky and Tennesee.
Plus Dole won Colorado - which Cheney from neighbouring Wyoming suddenly loses in your scenario. Swapping AZ and CO is not realistic and at least Louisiana would go Clinton. The border states too IMO.
Actually Cheney would probably do slighly worse than Dole in the South. Dole was a war hero after all.


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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2012, 11:31:10 pm »
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A Cheney Presidency would be quite interesting.


I think you've had enough Cathcon.  Throw me your car keys and let me have a hit of whatever you're on.  Wink
Interesting =/= good. I agree with Cathcon.

Whoops misread that.  Sorry about that Shocked
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Drink Too Much:
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An Empire of Stars and Stripes:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156974.0

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Endorsements:
President: Hillary Clinton
Governor: Brown (CA), Corbett (PA), Scott (FL)
House: Emken (CA)
Other: Rob McCoy (CA Assembly)

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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2012, 09:21:09 am »
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Had it not been for Perot KY would have went to Dole.
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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2012, 05:31:41 pm »
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Florida too
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Drink Too Much:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=147022.0

An Empire of Stars and Stripes:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156974.0

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Endorsements:
President: Hillary Clinton
Governor: Brown (CA), Corbett (PA), Scott (FL)
House: Emken (CA)
Other: Rob McCoy (CA Assembly)

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