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« on: April 12, 2012, 08:12:34 am »
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im 34, and i dont see it happening in the next 30 to 40 years.  so i vote no.
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 11:14:44 am »
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It might happen of course (in the case of a GOP landslide) but I'd say it's more unlikely than not.

And it will certainly never be less democrat than the nation as a whole.
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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2012, 07:48:05 pm »
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Meh, maybe when I'm in my 40's or 50's. I see the real "shift" in the parties happening sometime between 2030 and 2040, so I would be in my 30's. The "shift" I'm referring to is the GOP becoming more Libertarian and the Democrats becoming more Authoritarian/Populist/maybe even Socialist a bit.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 03:11:02 pm »
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Yes, once the GOP trends to being a party more centered around economics (we're seeing it more with the Young Guns--the Bush era was the high water mark of the religious right)

A battleground California in 40-50 years may be blacks, the Bay, and working-class Hispanics (the latter has heavily integrated by this point) against white suburbia and rural NorCal.
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 03:23:34 pm »
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Many of the posters are teenagers and can live another 60-70 years. What makes you think the current two party system will survive that long?
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2012, 06:56:20 pm »
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Many of the posters are teenagers and can live another 60-70 years. What makes you think the current two party system will survive that long?

>Implying I'll live past my late 50's lol

It's all a guess, nobody really knows.
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 07:44:24 pm »
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Many of the posters are teenagers and can live another 60-70 years. What makes you think the current two party system will survive that long?

>Implying I'll live past my late 50's lol

It's all a guess, nobody really knows.
I'd say the breaking point is forty, if you don't die before then you will probably live to be over 60.
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2012, 08:26:04 pm »
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Many of the posters are teenagers and can live another 60-70 years. What makes you think the current two party system will survive that long?
Yeah, I don't turn 100 until the 2090's.  So I would put money on my yes vote.  Though I don't plan on living past 25, so maybe not.
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2012, 11:27:27 pm »
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If Obama wasn't on the ballot in California for 2012, then it would happen sooner than later.
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2012, 11:42:02 pm »
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I'm way too young to say.

I don't turn 100 for another 82 years!
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2012, 12:59:10 am »
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Yes, once the GOP trends to being a party more centered around economics (we're seeing it more with the Young Guns--the Bush era was the high water mark of the religious right)

A battleground California in 40-50 years may be blacks, the Bay, and working-class Hispanics (the latter has heavily integrated by this point) against white suburbia and rural NorCal.

Take a look at what is going on in a bunch of state legislature's, the GOP is still all about shoving religion into every single piece of public policy.
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2012, 02:28:36 am »
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I don't think so, but I'm not confident that the Democratic party will always win it.
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2012, 02:27:45 pm »
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It'll happen, just need the right candidate.
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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2012, 04:05:13 pm »
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Yes, once the GOP trends to being a party more centered around economics (we're seeing it more with the Young Guns--the Bush era was the high water mark of the religious right)

A battleground California in 40-50 years may be blacks, the Bay, and working-class Hispanics (the latter has heavily integrated by this point) against white suburbia and rural NorCal.

Take a look at what is going on in a bunch of state legislature's, the GOP is still all about shoving religion into every single piece of public policy.

They've been a lot less successful than they were in the past.
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