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« on: April 23, 2012, 01:45:26 am »
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After reviewing the votes, I initially made a thread about Earl's vote, which was a stupid mistake on my part. However, I decided to look closer and discovered that Brandon H does not meet activity requirements. I believe this result may impact the outcome of the elections and request a recount.

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Section 14: Federal Activity Requirements

    All those persons who have posted at least 25 times in the 8 weeks (56 days) prior to the commencement of an election shall be defined as active for the purposes of that election.
    Those persons considered inactive (defined as not active) shall not be qualified to vote in a particular election.
    Anyone who has cast an absentee ballot shall be regarded as an active voter, provided he or she fulfills the definition by the time the election commences for which the ballot was cast, of an "active voter"; However, the post containing the ballot shall not count towards the total number of required posts.
from the Consolidated Electoral System Reform Act.
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2012, 02:34:18 am »
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Another question. The constitution says
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In order to vote or be a candidate in an election, a person must have been a registered voter seven days before the earliest possible commencement of the election. If a voter changes their state of registration between that time and the election, the state from which they were originally registered shall be the state from which their vote is cast.

Since NVTownsend registered on, not before April 12th, his vote for TJ is invalid, I am pretty sure. I believe with these two errors resolved, Snowstalker wins the last seat and TJ loses.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2012, 02:38:02 am »
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2012, 06:44:51 am »
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Don't worry, I found a few irregularities of my own.

PyroTheFox also does not meet activity requirements.

Lewis's vote: http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=152424.msg3269889#msg3269889 should not be counted as valid, since there is only a list of users without any reasonable determination of intent, such as numbers, letters, an X beside one name, etc.  If this vote is valid, then so would be simply empty quoting the ballot.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2012, 07:43:42 am »
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NVTownsend, Pyrofox and Brandon H's votes have been ruled invalid.

I have counted Lewis Trondheim's vote because I can discern the voter's intent.

That reduces the total number of valid votes to 68. Since TJ lost two 1st preferences and Snowstalker one, the end result is still the same. TJ is elected without a quota instead of with one, but Snowstalker is still not elected.

I will ask President Polnut if he will accept my resignation once this crisis is resolved. It may no longer be possible for me to run an election with any degree of legitimacy.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2012, 07:48:22 am »
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I don't see any reason you should resign- this formula is complex and this seems to be your first error... people make mistakes
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2012, 07:50:42 am »
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NVTownsend, Pyrofox and Brandon H's votes have been ruled invalid.

I have counted Lewis Trondheim's vote because I can discern the voter's intent.

That reduces the total number of valid votes to 68. Since TJ lost two 1st preferences and Snowstalker one, the end result is still the same. TJ is elected without a quota instead of with one, but Snowstalker is still not elected.

I will ask President Polnut if he will accept my resignation once this crisis is resolved. It may no longer be possible for me to run an election with any degree of legitimacy.

Homely, you need not resign. I think you have done a great job. It is almost unfair to expect you to check every profile, know every detail of the law and do all of the math. That is why we can check each other's work, and make sure it is right. Really, this pales in comparison to some of the stupid blunders I have made in my time. You're an awesome SoFE. Smiley
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I told my mom, tears blurring my vision
He said, "Mort, you've loved God since before circumcision"
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2012, 08:30:30 am »
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NVTownsend, Pyrofox and Brandon H's votes have been ruled invalid.

I have counted Lewis Trondheim's vote because I can discern the voter's intent.

That reduces the total number of valid votes to 68. Since TJ lost two 1st preferences and Snowstalker one, the end result is still the same. TJ is elected without a quota instead of with one, but Snowstalker is still not elected.

I will ask President Polnut if he will accept my resignation once this crisis is resolved. It may no longer be possible for me to run an election with any degree of legitimacy.

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2012, 09:05:06 am »
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NVTownsend, Pyrofox and Brandon H's votes have been ruled invalid.

I have counted Lewis Trondheim's vote because I can discern the voter's intent.

That reduces the total number of valid votes to 68. Since TJ lost two 1st preferences and Snowstalker one, the end result is still the same. TJ is elected without a quota instead of with one, but Snowstalker is still not elected.

I will ask President Polnut if he will accept my resignation once this crisis is resolved. It may no longer be possible for me to run an election with any degree of legitimacy.

Homely, you need not resign. I think you have done a great job. It is almost unfair to expect you to check every profile, know every detail of the law and do all of the math. That is why we can check each other's work, and make sure it is right. Really, this pales in comparison to some of the stupid blunders I have made in my time. You're an awesome SoFE. Smiley

Perhaps the voting population would be mollified by a sincere apology and a plan to ensure that such a thing does not happen again? I am more than willing to continue the work as SoFE, but I think it only fair that I ask both the President and the people whether they have any confidence in my election administration in the future and whether they would like me to resign or not.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2012, 09:05:57 am »
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These is no one on the entire forum that could do a better job as SoFE than you, Homely. Honest. You are the best there's been in a while.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2012, 09:20:57 am »
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I'm ordering you not to resign.
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2012, 09:29:33 am »
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These is no one on the entire forum that could do a better job as SoFE than you, Homely. Honest. You are the best there's been in a while.

This.

You're a human being man.  You're going to make mistakes all the time.  Me, I shoudl be studying for the Philosophy final I'm likely going to fail because I was too much of a lazyass to study up on every single economic theory under the sun for use in a paper that I am going to write in class.

Dude, nobody wants the job you have.  Nobody.  And for good reason.
It takes a very dedicated and honest man to play the role of vote counter.  I bet it takes you hours alone just to figure out that formula.  I wouldn't have the patience to learn how it works.

I can also assure you that mistakes by an SoFE aren't exactly rare.  It's been all too common throughout our history as a nation.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2012, 10:21:56 am »
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You do a fantastic job, and Mr. 20RP12 and Mecha point out, no one is capable of doing better. If anything, the fact that someone as vigilant and industrious as you could screw up the count points to a problem with needlessly complicated election laws and burdensome eligibility requirements that aren't easy to verify.

Anyway, I'm of the opinion that the only thing that matters is that all involved parties accept the legitimacy of the count in the end, whether it's "correct" or not.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2012, 12:09:38 pm »
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There is no reason for homely to resign, at all.

When the JCP and RPP were still around, both would check the others as well as their own voters to see if they were valid. It kind of relieved some of the pressure on the SoFE because you had atleast two or more "lists of invalids" already floating around.

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2012, 12:15:14 pm »
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I don't think there's any reason for you to resign either. You can't be expected to catch every invalid vote and responded appropriately when several were challenged. Elections by their very nature are controversial and I doubt anyone on this board doubts your ability to run them fairly. Heck, you did a better job noticing invalid votes than I did and I was running.
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2012, 12:18:44 pm »
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You should not resign, especially because your mistake has had no effect on the outcome of the election at all. And even if it had had an impact, you would still have done a good job!
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2012, 02:18:58 pm »
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Homely, you have, by far, exceeded your expectations as SoFE.  As others have said, this was a very minor error that few could have noticed.  Please do not resign.
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2012, 02:26:00 pm »
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I think Secretary Cooking should be put on money.
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