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« on: April 17, 2012, 10:41:07 am »
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would Christie as VP make Pennsylvania a toss-up?
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2012, 11:05:31 am »
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Christie would hurt Romney.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 11:06:36 am »
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Tweed is giving us a reminder of what we'll have to suffer through the next couple months posted unironically.
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2012, 11:14:50 am »
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If Romney wants to do even worse with women voters, then I strongly encourage him to pick Christie.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2012, 11:20:49 am »
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What? Look, you all know how much I love Christie but the thought that he would be the reason why PA would be a toss up is silly. He is very well liked among Republicans (especially with those of us closest to NJ) but, as a running mate, he isn't liked enough by Independent/swing voters to make a big impact.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2012, 11:52:42 am »
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Christie is a high-risk choice and he probably hasn't been fully vetted (extra scrutiny must be applied to NJ pols), but the hilarity he'd bring to the race would certainly be positive.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 12:14:16 pm »
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Short answer: no.
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2012, 12:17:17 pm »
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Christie wouldn't even make NJ a toss-up
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2012, 12:33:19 pm »
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Pennsylvania is already a toss-up.
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2012, 05:04:39 pm »
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I prefer Corbett over Christie. 

Corbett is also a veteran.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2012, 05:06:39 pm »
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I prefer Corbett over Christie. 

Corbett is also a veteran.

He's a good choice. Why is now one touting him?
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2012, 06:04:40 pm »
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I prefer Corbett over Christie. 

Corbett is also a veteran.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2012, 06:13:34 pm »
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It's pretty obvious this is a joke, guys.

Will Marco Rubio give Colorado and New Mexico to Romney?Huh
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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2012, 06:14:51 pm »
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No, and to Oak's question, No.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2012, 06:18:35 pm »
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Sure! Remember when Bentsen delivered Oklahoma to Dukakis in 1988?
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2012, 06:35:07 pm »
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Carol Schwartz would make DC a toss-up, she should be on the short list.
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2012, 05:01:42 am »
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Quote from: HagridOfTheDeep on April 17, 2012, 12:33:19 pm
Pennsylvania is already a toss-up.
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2012, 08:29:27 am »
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Quote from: milhouse24 on April 17, 2012, 05:04:39 pm
I prefer Corbett over Christie. 

Corbett is also a veteran.

He's a good choice. Why is now one touting him?

He has only been Governor for a year and a half (and this speaks to why Rubio isn't a slam dunk: being a Senator for only a year and a half could bite us) and he isn't that popular.
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2012, 05:03:43 pm »
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Quote from: HagridOfTheDeep on April 17, 2012, 12:33:19 pm
Pennsylvania is already a toss-up.

Yes... yes... Pennsylvania is a toss-up since 1992, which, at the end, always votes Democratic.
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2012, 07:22:29 pm »
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Do veep picks ever bring states into play that other wise wouldn't have been?

NO.
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Do veep picks ever bring states into play that other wise wouldn't have been?

NO.

Yes, they do. 

Muskie brought Maine to Humphrey which Nixon would otherwise have carried.

Gore might well have tipped Tennessee to Clinton in 1996.

Bricker tipped Ohio to Dewey in 1944.

I think Stevenson brought Illinois to Cleveland in 1892.
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2012, 08:18:26 pm »
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Quote from: rbt48 on April 18, 2012, 08:03:39 pm
Quote from: perdedor on April 18, 2012, 07:22:29 pm
Do veep picks ever bring states into play that other wise wouldn't have been?

NO.

Yes, they do. 

Muskie brought Maine to Humphrey which Nixon would otherwise have carried.

Gore might well have tipped Tennessee to Clinton in 1996.

Bricker tipped Ohio to Dewey in 1944.

I think Stevenson brought Illinois to Cleveland in 1892.

I think running  mates do make a difference. I'll make a bold prediction, if Christie is the running mate, Romney wins and Pennsylvania is added to the victory column. New Jersey in an upset might be there too.
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2012, 08:32:09 pm »
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Chris Christie as VP would certainly make me a toss up voter. As a candidate, he'll come off twice as abrasive and arrogant as Biden, and will alienate moderates massively.
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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2012, 08:54:33 pm »
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Quote from: rbt48 on April 18, 2012, 08:03:39 pm
Quote from: perdedor on April 18, 2012, 07:22:29 pm
Do veep picks ever bring states into play that other wise wouldn't have been?

NO.

Yes, they do. 

Muskie brought Maine to Humphrey which Nixon would otherwise have carried.

Gore might well have tipped Tennessee to Clinton in 1996.

Bricker tipped Ohio to Dewey in 1944.

I think Stevenson brought Illinois to Cleveland in 1892.

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that any of those victories were directly related to the veep pick.
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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2012, 09:03:18 pm »
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Quote from: rbt48 on April 18, 2012, 08:03:39 pm
Quote from: perdedor on April 18, 2012, 07:22:29 pm
Do veep picks ever bring states into play that other wise wouldn't have been?

NO.

Yes, they do. 

Muskie brought Maine to Humphrey which Nixon would otherwise have carried.

Gore might well have tipped Tennessee to Clinton in 1996.

Bricker tipped Ohio to Dewey in 1944.

I think Stevenson brought Illinois to Cleveland in 1892.

Given he lost it when he was at the on the top of the ticket, I'm not sure if that's the case.

Maine was worth four EV's, and the other two I think were too long ago to really count.
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