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« Reply #75 on: July 01, 2012, 06:41:28 pm »
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Great stuff. I was hoping that Brown could do better in the West, though it seems he's only managed to take one state. Hoping Casey makes Duke fight for his life. Meanwhile, for the GOP, I'm split between Dole and Gramm. Wonder how Alexander fares in the future.
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March 7, 1992: Brown and Casey Split 3 Races, Alexander and Gramm as Well.
On the Democratic side, Arizona was won by Governor Brown, and South Carolina and Wyoming were won by Governor Casey. President Dukakis placed 2nd in each.

Arizona:
Brown 37
Dukakis 35
Casey 28

South Carolina:
Casey 52
Dukakis 31
Brown 17

Wyoming:
Casey 52
Dukakis 28
Brown 20

On the Republican side, Governor Alexander won Arizona and Wyoming, and Senator Gramm won South Carolina. Similarly to Dukakis, Dole placed 2nd in all three.

Arizona:
Alexander 40
Dole 33
Gramm 27

South Carolina
Gramm 45
Dole 28
Alexander 27

Wyoming
Alexander 44
Dole 30
Gramm 26

March 8, 1992: Brown wins Nevada Democratic caucuses.

Brown 40
Dukakis 32
Casey 28

March 9, 1992: Dukakis Barely Leads Casey Nationally.
President Dukakis is now barely leading Governor Casey nationally, with Brown a strong third. Several Democrats are now considering asking President Dukakis to decline a second term, in order to not have a divided party come Election Day.

Dukakis 40
Casey 35
Brown 20
Undecided 5

States won so far:
Dukakis: Red
Casey: Blue
Brown: Green



March 9, 1992: Dole Leads, Gramm and Alexander Tied.
Senators Dole leads the Republican field and Gramm and Alexander are tied for second. The campaigns of Gramm and Alexander are fiercely calling on the other to exit to race, so that Dole will face a single conservative challenger.

Dole 35
Alexander 30
Gramm 30
Undecided 5

States won so far:
Gramm: Red
Dole: Blue
Alexander: Green



March 9, 1992: Super Duper Tuesday Preview and Polls:

Democrats:

Delaware: TIE
Delaware has a small lead for Dukakis, and Brown does have the momentum to possibly pull off a win.

Dukakis 32
Brown 28
Casey 15
Undecided 5

Florida: TIE
This is the big state that all three Democrats are focused on. Whoever wins this state will get a big boost. It’s unlikely that Brown can win, but he could come in 2nd. If Casey wins, he could pass the President in polls nationally. If Dukakis wins, Casey may face calls that he is unable to win a swing state.

Dukakis 37
Casey 33
Brown 25
Undecided 5

Hawaii: LEAN DUKAKIS
Dukakis has a small lead ahead of Brown

Dukakis 43
Brown 37
Casey 15
Undecided 5

Louisiana: STRONG CASEY
The South is expected to go for Casey.

Casey 47
Dukakis 30
Brown 18
Undecided 5

Massachusetts: STRONG DUKAKIS
Dukakis’ home state is expected to give him a big win.

Dukakis 70
Casey 15
Brown 10
Undecided 5

Mississippi: STRONG CASEY
Southern state.

Casey 49
Dukakis 29
Brown 17
Undecided 5

Missouri: TIE
This is Vice President Gephardt’s state, and he has been campaigning in the state all week to encourage citizens to vote for President Dukakis.

Casey 38
Dukakis 37
Brown 20
Undecided 5

Oklahoma: STRONG CASEY
Lots of conservative Democrats here.

Casey 48
Dukakis 31
Brown 16
Undecided 5

Rhode Island: STRONG DUKAKIS
Neighbors Massachusetts.

Dukakis 62
Casey 18
Brown 15
Undecided 5

Tennessee: STRONG CASEY
More conservative Democrats.

Casey 48
Dukakis 32
Brown 15
Undecided 5

Texas: LEAN CASEY
This state doesn’t go for Casey as easily as it should, since Brown seems to have gained support with many Hispanics in the state. They could split the vote and give the win to Dukakis.

Casey 35
Dukakis 30
Brown 30
Undecided 5

Summary:
STRONG DUKAKIS: Mass, Rhode Island.
LEAN DUKAKIS: Hawaii
TIE: Delaware, Florida, Missouri
LEAN CASEY: Texas
STRONG CASEY: Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Tennessee

Dukakis needs to win Florida and hopefully Missouri. A loss of both to Casey would be disastrous. Casey needs to win Texas and Missouri, hopefully Florida. Brown needs to win at least 1 state, hopefully more than one, but Dukakis appears to be reabsorbing Brown’s liberal voters.

Republicans:

Florida: TIE
Just as Florida is the main event for the Democrats, so it is for the Republicans. In fact, this is the only main event for the Republicans, as in the rest of the races the result is a foregone conclusion. In Florida, there is a tie between Gramm and Dole, and Alexander is far behind.

Dole 36
Gramm 35
Alexander 24
Undecided 5

Louisiana: STRONG GRAMM
South is for Gramm.

Gramm 50
Dole 29
Alexander 16
Undecided 5

Massachusetts: STRONG DOLE
Northeast is for Dole

Dole 55
Gramm 24
Alexander 16
Undecided 5

Mississippi: STRONG GRAMM
South is for Gramm.

Gramm 48
Dole 29
Alexander 18
Undecided 5

Oklahoma: STRONG GRAMM
South is for Gramm.

Gramm 47
Dole 28
Alexander 20
Undecided 5

Rhode Island: STRONG DOLE
Northeast is for Dole

Dole 57
Gramm 23
Alexander 15
Undecided 5

Tennessee: STRONG ALEXANDER
Alexander’s home state.

Alexander 56
Dole 24
Gramm 15
Undecided 5

Texas: STRONG GRAMM
Gramm’s home state

Gramm 66
Dole 19
Alexander 10
Undecided 5

Summary:
STRONG DOLE: Mass, Rhode Island
STRONG GRAMM: Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Texas
STRONG ALEXANDER: Tennessee
TIE: Florida

Dole needs to win Florida, Gramm needs to win Florida, simple as that. Alexander is going to win his home state but it doesn’t look like he can compete with Gramm in the South.
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« Reply #78 on: July 01, 2012, 10:57:09 pm »
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March 10, 1992: Super Duper Tuesday for Democrats: Dukakis Wins Florida and Missouri, and 4 Other States.
President Dukakis has won the important state of Florida, along with Vice President’s Gephardt’s home state of Missouri. Dukakis also won Delaware, Hawaii, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island. Governor Casey won the states of Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Texas. Governor Brown did not win any states and is being called on to exit the race. But in a defiant speech, Governor Brown stated that he would continue.

Delaware:
Dukakis 34
Brown 30
Casey 16

Florida:
Dukakis 38
Casey 35
Brown 27

Hawaii:
Dukakis 46
Brown 38
Casey 16

Louisiana:
Casey 50
Dukakis 32
Brown 18

Massachusetts:
Dukakis 76
Casey 14
Brown 10

Mississippi:
Casey 52
Dukakis 31
Brown 17

Missouri:
Dukakis 40
Casey 39
Brown 21

Oklahoma:
Casey 51
Dukakis 33
Brown 16

Rhode Island:
Dukakis 64
Casey 21
Brown 15

Tennessee:
Casey 50
Dukakis 35
Brown 15

Texas:
Casey 37
Dukakis 33
Brown 30

State of the Race for Democrats after Super Duper Tuesday:

Dukakis: Red
Casey: Blue
Brown: Green



March 10, 1992: Super Duper Tuesday for the Republicans: Dole Narrowly Wins Florida, Gramm Wins Most States, and Alexander Exits Race.
In an intense showdown in Florida, Senator Dole narrowly won the Florida Primary, along with Massachusetts and Rhode Island. Senator Gramm, although losing Florida, won more states: Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, and Texas. Former Governor Alexander managed to win only his home state of Tennessee, albeit with barely a majority. Alexander announced that he is exiting the race for President but did not name an endorsement for either Dole or Gramm.

Florida:
Dole 39
Gramm 37
Alexander 24

Louisiana:
Gramm 52
Dole 31
Alexander 17

Massachusetts:
Dole 60
Gramm 24
Alexander 16

Mississippi:
Gramm 52
Dole 30
Alexander 18

Oklahoma:
Gramm 50
Dole 28
Alexander 22

Rhode Island:
Dole 60
Gramm 25
Alexander 15

Tennessee:
Alexander 55
Dole 28
Gramm 17

Texas:
Gramm 68
Dole 21
Alexander 11

State of the Race for Republicans after Super Duper Tuesday:

Gramm: Red
Dole: Blue
Alexander: Green



March 12, 1992: Governor Brown Exits Race, Declines to Endorse Dukakis or Casey.
Governor Brown announced today that he is exiting the race for President. Brown was the first to challenge the President and was seen as some by a legitimate challenger, but he and Dukakis’s electoral base were too similar.
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« Reply #79 on: July 02, 2012, 07:01:08 am »
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Why is Dole unable to win any of the West? It's his home region and I'd expect him to dominate there. In '96, it was New Hampshire that tripped him up and in '88, the only states he won were places like MN, WY, and of course Kansas.
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« Reply #80 on: July 02, 2012, 01:40:14 pm »
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Why is Dole unable to win any of the West? It's his home region and I'd expect him to dominate there. In '96, it was New Hampshire that tripped him up and in '88, the only states he won were places like MN, WY, and of course Kansas.

At the time, a lot of Republicans have Gramm fever. Dole not doing well in the west is mainly he's such a national figure for the GOP that he really doesn't have a "region" that strongly identifies with him. I base it more on the region than Dole though, since we see "the south" as more homogenous than "the west" or even the plains states.
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« Reply #81 on: July 02, 2012, 01:44:46 pm »
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« Reply #82 on: July 02, 2012, 11:13:14 pm »
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Have to admit, you're doing a great job keeping this interesting with an incredibly dull Republican field. In particular, I'm a fan of the back stories about Congressional and Presidential undertakings.

I guess I support Gramm, though not strongly. And GO DUKAKIS - someone's got to support the President!
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March 13, 1992: Former Governor Alexander Endorses Senator Gramm.
Former Governor of Tennesse Alexander, bucking the trend most other Republicans, has endorsed Senator Gramm for President. “We need a strong conservative to turn this country around, and Senator Gramm is the man to do it.” Some on the right are calling for a Gramm/Alexander conservative Dream Team but the Gramm campaign has stated that it is far too early for such speculation.

March 14, 1992: Head to Head Polls Show Dole Stronger than Gramm, but Casey Even With President.
The first head to head polls since each nomination came down to a two man race has shown which matchups are most and least competitive. Dole is clearly more competitive against Dukakis and Casey than Gramm is, and this is driving many establishment Republicans to call on Gramm to end his campaign and endorse Dole. On the Democratic side, there are similar calls for Casey to end his campaign since he shows an insignificant advantage over Dukakis in head to head match ups. Although Casey’s favorable ratings are higher, he also faces doubts over whether he is qualified to be President.

Dole 50
Dukakis 42
Undecided 8

Dukakis 47
Gramm 43
Undecided 10

Dole 49
Casey 43
Undecided 10

Casey 46
Gramm 42
Undecided 12

March 14, 1992: Dole Leads Gramm by 8 Points.
Senator Bob Dole leads Senator Gramm by 8 points.
Dole 51
Gramm 43
Undecided 6

March 14, 1992: With Brown’s Exit, Dukakis Reclaims Majority.
After the exit of Governor Brown from the race, a majority of his former supporters have reverted to the President, giving the President a strong majority against Governor Bob Casey. The divide now is clearly ideological and geographical.
Dukakis 58
Casey 37
Undecided 5

March 15, 1992: Weapons of Mass Destruction Control Act Signed into Law.
Following the fall of the Soviet Union, the Weapons of Mass Destruction Control Act seeks to prevent attacks by weapons of mass destruction by limiting the access to such arms. This bill had rare support by both parties, who worry that such weapons could be accesses by rogue states and/or terrorists.

March 16, 1992: Casey Faces Big Test in Michigan Tomorrow.
Governor Casey has been campaigning in Michigan all week, hoping that with a head to head match up, he will be able to defeat the President. But polls show the President narrowly ahead in Michigan, and with a lead in Illinois. On the Republican side, Dole is safely ahead in Illinois, but is almost tied in Michigan. Senator Gramm has yet to win a primary in a large population state outside the south, and he needs to in order to seriously challenge Dole for the nomination.

Illinois
Dukakis 57
Casey 38
Undecided 5

Michigan
Dukakis 51
Casey 44
Undecided 5

Illinois
Dole 53
Gramm 42
Undecided 5

Michigan
Dole 48
Gramm 46
Undecided 6

March 17, 1992: Dole, Dukakis win Illinois and Michigan Primaries.
The establishment stuck back today in Illinois and Michigan, giving both Dole and Dukakis double wins. Dole barely defeated Gramm in the Michigan primary, a loss there would have been a big embarrassment to the campaign.

Michigan
Dukakis 54
Casey 46

Dole 51
Gramm 49

Illinois
Dukakis 60
Casey 40

Dole 53
Gramm 42
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« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2012, 01:05:57 am »
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So, did Brown choose to run to Dukakis' left? In OTL 1992, as I recall, he ran to everyone's left on social issues, but also as sort of a conservative-populist on economic issues. How/why is that changed?
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This is very interesting.
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Go Casey and Gramm.

This may be off topic, but Is brown pro-life?
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This may be off topic, but Is brown pro-life?

Highly doubt it. From what I know, he ran in his Presidential campaigns as generally fiscally conservative, socially liberal. Expanding, I remember reading that "he seemed to be both the farthest left and the farthest right in the primaries" in 1992.
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March 19, 1992: Casey Wins North Dakota Democratic caucuses.
Governor Casey has won the North Dakota Democratic caucuses with slim majority. Despite consolidating most of Governor Brown’s support, the President is still facing trouble with conservative Democrats who prefer Casey.

Casey 54
Dukakis 46

March 20, 1992: Former Vice President Bush Endorses Dole.
Former Vice President George H.W. Bush has endorsed Senator Dole for President. He is the most prominent figure to endorse Dole, and there are rumors that former President Ronald Reagan will endorse either Dole or Gramm soon.

March 24, 1992: Dole and Dukakis Win Connecticut primary.
Senator Dole and President Dukakis have both easily won the Connecticut Primary with a large majority.

Dole 65
Gramm 35

Dukakis 71
Casey 29

March 31, 1992: Dukakis and Dole Win Vermont caucuses.
Just as with Connecticut, both frontrunners did very well in this northeastern state.

Dole 67
Gramm 33

Dukakis 74
Casey 26

April 2, 1992: Casey wins Alaska Democratic Caucus; Gramm barely wins at North Dakota Republican convention.

Casey 54
Dukakis 46

Gramm 54
Dole 46

April 6, 1992: President Dukakis Gaining Further Support, Casey Down to 33 Percent.
President Dukakis is now beginning to gain enough support from Democrats that it appears very unlikely that Governor Casey will be able to catch him in delegates or votes cast. Tomorrow are three primaries for the Democrats. Kansas and New York are widely expected to go for Casey and Dukakis respectively. The real battle is in Wisconsin, where the President has a small lead over Casey.

Polls:
Kansas:
Casey 54
Dukakis 41
Undecided: 5

New York:
Dukakis 60
Casey 35
Undecided: 5

Wisconsin:
Dukakis 50
Casey 45
Undecided: 5

Nationally:
Dukakis 62
Casey 33
Undecided 5

State of the Race for the Democrats:
Dukakis: Red
Casey: Blue
Brown (OUT): Green


April 6, 1992: Dole Leads Gramm by Double Digits.
Senator Bob Dole is now the clear frontrunner against Senator Gramm, and is now leading Gramm by 11 points. Dole is expected to win his home state of Kansas, as well as New York and Hawaii easily. But in Minnesota and Wisconsin, the race is much closer.

Polls:
Hawaii
Dole 60
Gramm 35
Undecided 5

Kansas:
Dole 75
Gramm 20
Undecided 5

Minnesota:
Dole 48
Gramm 47
Undecided 5

New York:
Dole 65
Gramm 30
Undecided 5

Wisconsin:
Dole 50
Gramm 45
Undecided 5

Nationally:
Dole 53
Gramm 42
Undecided 5

State of the Race for the Republicans:
Dole: Blue
Gramm: Red
Alexander (OUT): Green




April 7: Super Tuesday 2: Dole Sweeps Contests, Dukakis Wins 2 out of 3.
Senator Dole has swept all 5 Republican contests, landing a major series of wins that make him very likely the Republican nominee. President Dukakis won the states of New York and Wisconsin, and Governor Casey won Kansas.

Hawaii caucuses
Dole 68
Gramm 32

Kansas primary
Dole 78
Gram 22

Casey 55
Dukakis 45

Minnesota primary (Republicans only),
Dole 51
Gramm 49

New York primary
Dole 67
Gramm 33

Dukakis 65
Casey 35

Wisconsin primary
Dole 53
Gramm 47

Dukakis 53
Casey 47

State of the Race for Democrats:
Dukakis: Red
Casey: Blue
Brown (OUT): Green


State of the Race for the Republicans:
Dole: Blue
Gramm: Red
Alexander (OUT): Green


April 8, 1992: Former President Reagan Endorses Dole, Gramm and Casey Face Calls to Exit.
Former President Ronald Reagan has formally endorsed Senator Dole, stating that he is the best choice to defeat President Dukakis this fall. Senator Gramm is ignoring calls to exit the race, claiming that there are still over 15 states left to vote. Although both Gramm and Governor Casey have won many states, they have won very few states with large populations.

April 10, 1992: Reduction in Military Spending Act Signed into Law.
The Reduction in Military Spending Act has been signed into law by President Dukakis. This bill decreases funding of many defense programs, and will increase the chances that next budget year will be the first in decades to have a surplus. The bill passes with a slim majority in both houses, with most of its opposition by conservatives, most notably Minority Whip Dick Cheney. The President countered, “The Cold War is over but Dick Cheney doesn’t seem to know it yet.”
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April 11, 1992: Dukakis Wins Virginia Democratic caucuses.
In a major win for Dukakis, he has won the Virginia Democratic Caucuses, winning his first Southern state other than Florida. Governor Casey continues to lose support and endorsements, and it is unknown if he will continue through all the primaries. His home state of Pennsylvania does not vote until April 28.

Dukakis 52
Casey 48

April 14, 1992: Dole wins Missouri Republican caucuses.
Dole has won the Missouri Republican caucuses.

Dole 54
Gramm 46

April 27, 1992: Gramm wins Utah Republican caucuses.
By continuing to focus on social issues, Senator Gramm has easily won the Utah caucuses.

Gramm 58
Dole 42

April 28, 1992: Dole Clinches Nomination! Casey and Dole Win Pennsylvania Primary. Gramm is silent.

Senator Dole has clinched the Republican Nomination with his win in Pennsylvania today, ending a long race that has many twists and turns. “With your support, we can defeat President Dukakis and bring America back from liberalism and unemployment!”

Dole 61
Gramm 39

Governor Casey has won his home state with a strong win, but in his victory speech gave hints that he was likely to end his campaign soon. His campaign has been struggling financially with such few wins and last month news broke that they were officially in debt.

Casey 68
Dukakis 32

April 30, 1992: Casey Ends Campaign and Endorses President Dukakis.
Proudly claiming that his campaign gave voice to millions of unheard Democrats, Governor Casey stated that he hoped it would persuade the President to move to the center in order to win reelection. “We can’t have a President from the far left, and we definitely don’t want one from the far right. With our support and message, we can help President Dukakis win back the strong majority in the middle!”

May 1, 1992: Gramm Grudgingly Endorses Dole.
Appearing on a Sunday morning talk show, Senator Gramm gave lukewarm support to Senator Dole. “I guess I endorse him, I don’t have a choice.

May 5, 1992: Dole and Dukakis win Indiana primary but lose North Carolina primary.
In a sign that both the Democratic and Republican parties have not ended their respective family feuds, both Senator Dole and President Dukakis scored wins in the Indiana primary, but lost the North Carolina primaries. It is interesting that both parties are receiving “protest” votes from the conservative wings of each party.

Indiana
Dole 64
Gramm 36

Dukakis 66
Casey 34

North Carolina
Gramm 55
Dole 45

Casey 54
Dukakis 46

May 9, 1992: Dole wins Delaware Republican convention.

Dole 72
Gramm 28

May 12: Dole wins Nebraska primary, West Virginia primary. Dukakis Wins West Virginia and Casey wins Nebraska.

Nebraska
Dole 68
Gramm 32

Casey 53
Dukakis 47

West Virginia
Dole 72
Gramm 28

Dukakis 58
Casey 42

May 19: Dukakis wins Oregon primary, Dole wins Oregon and Washington primary.

Washington
Dole 74
Gramm 26

Oregon
Dukakis 76
Casey 24

Dole 72
Gramm 28

State of the Race for Democrats:



State of the Race for Republicans:

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June 2, 1992: Final Map Results of 1992 Primaries.
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Democrats:
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Casey (OUT): Blue
Brown (OUT): Green



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I just noticed that I made a major mistake in the timeline. I kept on calling Lamar Alexander the Senator from Tennessee, when in fact in 1992 he was the former Governor of Tennessee. I changed all the references but I'll keep the results. Sorry about that.
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June 3, 1992. Bob Dole Resigns Seat, Alan Simpson to be Minority Leader.
Citing his need to focus full time on the campaign trail, Senator Bob Dole has resigned his senate seat. “I’m going to the White House or I’m going home!” Senator Dole stated. Minority Whip Alan Simpson is in line to succeed him, and was successfully voted in as Minority Leader.

This is significant because in real life, Dole resigned in June 1996, and the Majority Whip (and next in line) at that time was Trent Lott, a strong social conservative. But because Dole resigns 4 years earlier, the Minority Leader at the time is… Alan Simpson… who just happens to be pro-choice and supportive of gay rights.

June 5, 1992: Republicans Split on Next Minority Whip.
Following the selection of Alan Simpson to be the Minority Leader, many Republicans are demanding that the Minority Whip be a strong conservative, to balance out pro-choice Alan Simpson. There are three Senators who are running for the position. John Chafee from Rhode Island, Thad Cochran from Mississippi, Don Nickles from Oklahoma. Chafee is the only pro-choice of the three, and Cochran and Nickles both have strong support from the Christian right.

June 7, 1992: John Chafee Selected as Minority Whip.

John Chafee of Rhode Island has been chosen as the next Republican Minority Whip, following a strong backing by Minority Leader Alan Simpson. The conservative vote was split between Cochran and Nickles and there is building frustration with social conservatives, who realize that the top two Senate Republicans leadership positions will be taken by pro-choice Republicans.

June 10, 1992: Expansion of Medicare for those under 18 Failed. Negotiations Begin. Republicans Want Middle Class Tax Cuts in Return.
The President and Congressional Democrats’ proposal to expand Medicare for those under 18 failed today in the House, with several conservative Democrats joining with most of the Republicans in voting no. Minority Senate Leader Alan Simpson has called for a compromise, where the Republicans will vote for the expansion of Medicare if the President will agree to middle class tax cuts. House Minority Leader Robert Michel agreed with that approach, claiming that all compromises should be on the table.
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« Reply #94 on: July 23, 2012, 12:24:51 am »
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Interesting.
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« Reply #96 on: July 24, 2012, 02:01:20 pm »
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Boo!  Cochran should have been whip!

He better become Republican leader or VP or something ITTL, he deserves it
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June 12, 1992: Bob Dole’s VP Shortlist Rumors.
Now that Senator Dole has clinched the nomination, the big question is, who will he select to be his Vice President? It is apparent by many that Senator Dole still has a problem with many on the right, and following last week’s news that the top two Senate Republicans will be both pro-choice, there is pressure on Dole to select a strong social conservative. Several Republicans have threatened that they will walk out of the Republican Convention if the vice presidential pick is pro-choice. Governor Alexander is considered to be on the top of Dole’s list. Alexander and Dole famously got along in almost all debates, and there was none of the strong bickering as there was between Dole and Gramm. Senator Gramm, in contrast is not expected to be on the short list and has publically stated that he has no desire to be the vice presidential pick.

On the Short List:

Former Governor of Tennessee, Lamar Alexander, 52. Served 1979-1987.

Governor of Missouri, John Ashcroft, 50. Serving since 1985.

Governor of South Carolina, Carroll A. Campbell, Jr, 52. Serving since 1987.

Senator of Pennsylvania, John Heinz, 53. Serving since 1977.

Senator of Indiana, Richard Lugar, 60. Serving since 1977.

Senator of Arizona, John McCain, 56. Serving since 1987.

Governor of California Pete Wilson, 59. Serving since 1991, Also a former Senator from 1983-1991.

A real quote from Time Magazine: “Dole despised Kemp's economic theories but he felt Kemp-like tax cuts offered his best chance at electoral success.” So, since Dole is doing rather well in polls against Dukakis, his campaign does not even consider Kemp a possibility. In addition, because George Bush was never elected, Kemp never served as Housing Secretary, thus reducing his national prominence.


June 15, 1992: Senator Lugar Rules Himself Out of VP Speculation.
Senator Lugar has stated that he has refused to be considered as a vice presidential pick for Senator Dole, but adding that Dole has his full support in November’s election.

June 20, 1992: High Speed Rail Act Signed Into Law.
The High Speed Rail Act was signed into law, which will begin the construction of a high speed rail system in the United States. It is being compared to decision to build the interstate freeways of the 1950s. Critics claim that it will cost too much money, but many Senators were persuaded to vote for it since it would create many jobs.

June 22, 1992: Campbell and Ashcroft Eliminated from Consideration By Dole Campaign.
The Dole campaign has eliminated Governors Campbell and Ashcroft from consideration as the vice presidential pick. The overall message is that President Dukakis doesn’t have what it takes to be President, and that he was unprepared. With the selection of either of these two, that message is less likely to work. The final four choices: Lamar Alexander, John Heinz, John McCain, and Pete Wilson. The pros and cons of each:

Alexander:
Pro: From the South. Reliable conservative.
Con: Weak on foreign policy. Did not win many primaries.

Heinz:
Pro: Could deliver Pennsylvania. Possibly Ohio and Michigan as well. Strong on economic issues. Military service. 15 years of being a Senator.
Con: Wealthy background. Moderate. Pro-choice. Pro-environment.

McCain:
Pro: Reliably conservative. Could help in the southwest. War hero. Strong on campaign finance (authored McCain-Kerry bill). Great speech at 1988 Republican Convention. Considered a rising star. Double wounded veteran ticket a plus.
Con: Low Senate profile due to only being in the Senate since 1987 (5 years). Associated with Keating Scandal, but cleared of any wrongdoing. Previously opposed to MLK Jr Day.

Wilson:
Pro: Could possibly deliver California. A former senator and current Governor. Fiscal conservative.
Con: Pro-choice. Only a governor for a year. Has the charisma of a box.
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« Reply #98 on: July 25, 2012, 07:06:18 am »
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I like the idea of Alexander. He's a Governor so that gives him eight years of executive experience that picking a Senator wouldn't give. Also, he would help in states like Kentucky and West Virginia, IMO.
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« Reply #99 on: July 25, 2012, 03:58:00 pm »
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Dole/Cochran 1992!!!
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