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« Reply #150 on: April 22, 2012, 03:31:06 pm »

Guys, I've often said that Corsican nationalists can tend to vote for the FN in presidential elections. I've been proven correct again.
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« Reply #151 on: April 22, 2012, 03:32:16 pm »
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Guys, I've often said that Corsican nationalists can tend to vote for the FN in presidential elections. I've been proven correct again.

I'm interested in why. Is it just that the movement has racist elements/tendencies?
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« Reply #152 on: April 22, 2012, 03:32:56 pm »
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What sort of place is Tremarget in Cotes-d'Armor, I ask because it seems that Joly has won it.


124 people voted there. It's 1) Joly 2) Melenchon 3) Hollande

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« Reply #153 on: April 22, 2012, 03:35:49 pm »
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Guys, I've often said that Corsican nationalists can tend to vote for the FN in presidential elections. I've been proven correct again.

I'm interested in why. Is it just that the movement has racist elements/tendencies?

It's difficult to be a nationalist and not hate someone. Only have to look to the SNP and their Anglophobia.
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« Reply #154 on: April 22, 2012, 03:36:56 pm »
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Guys, I've often said that Corsican nationalists can tend to vote for the FN in presidential elections. I've been proven correct again.

I'm interested in why. Is it just that the movement has racist elements/tendencies?

Consider that in Italy the Alleanza Nazionale and Lega Nord were in the same coalition once. They basically decided that they had common ground in that both hated immigrants. Might be similar here.
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« Reply #155 on: April 22, 2012, 03:37:14 pm »
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CSA being reported on BFM as 56-44.
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« Reply #156 on: April 22, 2012, 03:40:40 pm »
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Corsu seems to have a north-south divide, with any appreciable support for Hollande petering out once you hit the area just north of Bastelica, which along with a few bits of Tyrrhenian coastline is also Panzergirl's main base on the island. Interesting.

(Sorry about this fixation, I have Corsican ancestry.)
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« Reply #157 on: April 22, 2012, 03:43:09 pm »
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41-21-13 in Correze! Smiley
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« Reply #158 on: April 22, 2012, 03:43:29 pm »
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Correze is 42% for Hollande, 22% for Poison Dwarf, 13% for Panzergirl and 10% for the Fellow Traveler.
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« Reply #159 on: April 22, 2012, 03:45:34 pm »
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Big block of pink filling in from the Loire to the Spanish border.
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« Reply #160 on: April 22, 2012, 03:47:26 pm »
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So, looks like Miklos Horthy, Jr. is going to be the first incumbent President who failed to take the first place in first round.
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« Reply #161 on: April 22, 2012, 03:48:13 pm »
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Overall, it candidates running on anti-neoliberal platforms look to take about a third of the vote. And this is before the austerity thrashing Germany is about to deliver France in the next few years. After that, we'll have a real competition. Unthinkable five years ago. Unthinkable.
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« Reply #162 on: April 22, 2012, 03:51:08 pm »
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56.5% in (via google, source: Ministry of Interior)


Hollande
30.1%
4,088,419
       
Sarkozy
25.7%
3,492,588
       
Le Pen
17.6%
2,394,722
       
Mélenchon
11.0%
1,495,290
       
Bayrou
9.4%
1,270,328
       
Joly
2.1%
286,010
       
Dupont-Aignan
1.9%
252,949
       
Poutou
1.3%
175,822
       
Arthaud
0.6%
87,700
       
Cheminade
0.3%
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« Reply #163 on: April 22, 2012, 03:51:29 pm »
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Hollande is massively outperforming Royal in Auvergne and Burgundy especially so far, it looks like.

ETA: He's carried every département in Auvergne, also in Limousin (obviously) and Brittany and on track in Aquitaine and possibly Midi-Pyrénées and Poitou-Charentes.
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« Reply #164 on: April 22, 2012, 03:52:34 pm »
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Bizarre to that even a year ago DSK was definately going to be the next president and how François Hollande was a non-starter who'd be a blunder of a nominee. Bizarre.
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« Reply #165 on: April 22, 2012, 03:52:59 pm »
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Do urban regions always report last?
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« Reply #166 on: April 22, 2012, 03:55:09 pm »
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Do urban regions always report last?


They vote until 20:00 while many of the "rural" areas close the polling stations at 18:00. So that's why they report later: they started to count later
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« Reply #167 on: April 22, 2012, 03:57:26 pm »
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What sort of place is Corrèze? It seems really rural, possibly mountainous? Is it considered part of the Massif Central?
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« Reply #168 on: April 22, 2012, 03:58:30 pm »
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Overall, it candidates running on anti-neoliberal platforms look to take about a third of the vote. And this is before the austerity thrashing Germany is about to deliver France in the next few years. After that, we'll have a real competition. Unthinkable five years ago. Unthinkable.

Well, it was certainly obvious 3 years ago, at least.
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« Reply #169 on: April 22, 2012, 03:59:57 pm »
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Hollande refused the 3 debates.

Dunno if debates can have a big importance in this election, but that's certainly an excercise that could be tough for Hollande against Sarkozy.

What sort of place is Corrèze? It seems really rural, possibly mountainous? Is it considered part of the Massif Central?

Lived there several years while a child. It's definitely part of Massif Central yes, very green, lot of forests, middle mountains, quite rural, slightly conservative, but still rather open minded, something along the rest of Limousin, might be the most rightist département of this région.
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« Reply #170 on: April 22, 2012, 04:02:23 pm »
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Imagine how well Melenchon would be doing right now against a disappointing PS incumbent in the same vein as Zapatero or Socrates who implemented a series of neo-liberal reforms in the midst of a crippling recession...

Hollande's presidency is going to be a disaster to say the least.
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« Reply #171 on: April 22, 2012, 04:02:36 pm »
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What sort of place is Corrèze? It seems really rural, possibly mountainous? Is it considered part of the Massif Central?

Lived there several years while a child. It's definitely part of Massif Central yes, very green, lot of forests, middle mountains, quite rural, slightly conservative, but still rather open minded, something along the rest of Limousin, might be the most rightist département of this région.

So Hollande's from a sort of low-key rural leftist background, culturally? That sounds nice, actually. Too bad he's going to be inheriting and presiding over an absolute sh**tstorm.

Where is Mélenchon ostensibly from, other than 'Morocco'?
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« Reply #172 on: April 22, 2012, 04:04:05 pm »
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Overall, it candidates running on anti-neoliberal platforms look to take about a third of the vote. And this is before the austerity thrashing Germany is about to deliver France in the next few years. After that, we'll have a real competition. Unthinkable five years ago. Unthinkable.

Well, it was certainly obvious 3 years ago, at least.

Maybe to you. Tongue Three years ago the euro crisis hadn't broken out, and most people didn't realize how bad it would get. In any case, just noting it down.

I'm proud of how well Melenchon did. He started out as a gadfly, and it looks like he may do better than Jean-Marie in 2007. Impressive. I'm certain he took some votes from FN as well.
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« Reply #173 on: April 22, 2012, 04:04:51 pm »
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Hollande refused the 3 debates.

Dunno if debates can have a big importance in this election, but that's certainly an excercise that could be tough for Hollande against Sarkozy.

What sort of place is Corrèze? It seems really rural, possibly mountainous? Is it considered part of the Massif Central?

Lived there several years while a child. It's definitely part of Massif Central yes, very green, lot of forests, middle mountains, quite rural, slightly conservative, but still rather open minded, something along the rest of Limousin, might be the most rightist département of this région.

If Hollande is elected, he'd be the second President of Corrèze General Council elected President of the Republic after Chirac.

Interestingly both Chirac and Hollande were from outside of Corrèze, but made their political bases there. Chirac is from Paris, Hollande from Rouen.
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« Reply #174 on: April 22, 2012, 04:06:50 pm »
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Interestingly both Chirac and Hollande were from outside of Corrèze, but made their political bases there. Chirac is from Paris, Hollande from Rouen.

Ah. I remember Chirac was also Mayor of Paris for some time. I'm always amazed by how much of what would here be seen as blatant carpetbagging goes on in Europe.
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