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PASOK Leader Hashemite
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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April 22, 2012, 03:31:06 pm »
Guys, I've often said that Corsican nationalists can tend to vote for the FN in presidential elections. I've been proven correct again.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Quote from: Sharif Hashemite on April 22, 2012, 03:31:06 pm
Guys, I've often said that Corsican nationalists can tend to vote for the FN in presidential elections. I've been proven correct again.
I'm interested in why. Is it just that the movement has racist elements/tendencies?
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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April 22, 2012, 03:32:56 pm »
Quote from: Andrea on April 22, 2012, 03:10:18 pm
Quote from: Mist on April 22, 2012, 02:42:24 pm
What sort of place is Tremarget in Cotes-d'Armor, I ask because it seems that Joly has won it.
124 people voted there. It's 1) Joly 2) Melenchon 3) Hollande
I think it's this place
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-qAE0VUaP8
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Quote from: Nathan on April 22, 2012, 03:32:16 pm
Quote from: Sharif Hashemite on April 22, 2012, 03:31:06 pm
Guys, I've often said that Corsican nationalists can tend to vote for the FN in presidential elections. I've been proven correct again.
I'm interested in why. Is it just that the movement has racist elements/tendencies?
It's difficult to be a nationalist and not hate
someone
. Only have to look to the SNP and their Anglophobia.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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April 22, 2012, 03:36:56 pm »
Quote from: Nathan on April 22, 2012, 03:32:16 pm
Quote from: Sharif Hashemite on April 22, 2012, 03:31:06 pm
Guys, I've often said that Corsican nationalists can tend to vote for the FN in presidential elections. I've been proven correct again.
I'm interested in why. Is it just that the movement has racist elements/tendencies?
Consider that in Italy the Alleanza Nazionale and Lega Nord were in the same coalition once. They basically decided that they had common ground in that both hated immigrants. Might be similar here.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #155 on:
April 22, 2012, 03:37:14 pm »
CSA being reported on BFM as 56-44.
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Nathan
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April 22, 2012, 03:40:40 pm »
Corsu seems to have a north-south divide, with any appreciable support for Hollande petering out once you hit the area just north of Bastelica, which along with a few bits of Tyrrhenian coastline is also Panzergirl's main base on the island. Interesting.
(Sorry about this fixation, I have Corsican ancestry.)
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #157 on:
April 22, 2012, 03:43:09 pm »
41-21-13 in Correze!
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #158 on:
April 22, 2012, 03:43:29 pm »
Correze is 42% for Hollande, 22% for Poison Dwarf, 13% for Panzergirl and 10% for the Fellow Traveler.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #159 on:
April 22, 2012, 03:45:34 pm »
Big block of pink filling in from the Loire to the Spanish border.
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Quote from: Averroës Nix on October 18, 2012, 07:59:32 pm
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Quote from: Joe Republic on April 25, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #160 on:
April 22, 2012, 03:47:26 pm »
So, looks like Miklos Horthy, Jr. is going to be the first incumbent President who failed to take the first place in first round.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #161 on:
April 22, 2012, 03:48:13 pm »
Overall, it candidates running on anti-neoliberal platforms look to take about a third of the vote. And this is before the austerity thrashing Germany is about to deliver France in the next few years. After that, we'll have a real competition. Unthinkable five years ago. Unthinkable.
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Quote from: krazen1211 on January 17, 2013, 06:26:56 pm
15 rounds for the elites but 7 for the people. Interesting.
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Kalwejt
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #162 on:
April 22, 2012, 03:51:08 pm »
56.5% in (via google, source: Ministry of Interior)
Hollande
30.1%
4,088,419
Sarkozy
25.7%
3,492,588
Le Pen
17.6%
2,394,722
Mélenchon
11.0%
1,495,290
Bayrou
9.4%
1,270,328
Joly
2.1%
286,010
Dupont-Aignan
1.9%
252,949
Poutou
1.3%
175,822
Arthaud
0.6%
87,700
Cheminade
0.3%
34,685
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Nathan
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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April 22, 2012, 03:51:29 pm »
Hollande is massively outperforming Royal in Auvergne and Burgundy especially so far, it looks like.
ETA: He's carried every département in Auvergne, also in Limousin (obviously) and Brittany and on track in Aquitaine and possibly Midi-Pyrénées and Poitou-Charentes.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #164 on:
April 22, 2012, 03:52:34 pm »
Bizarre
to that even a year ago DSK was definately going to be the next president and how François Hollande was a non-starter who'd be a blunder of a nominee. Bizarre.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #165 on:
April 22, 2012, 03:52:59 pm »
Do urban regions always report last?
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #166 on:
April 22, 2012, 03:55:09 pm »
Quote from: Mist on April 22, 2012, 03:52:59 pm
Do urban regions always report last?
They vote until 20:00 while many of the "rural" areas close the polling stations at 18:00. So that's why they report later: they started to count later
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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April 22, 2012, 03:57:26 pm »
What sort of place is Corrèze? It seems really rural, possibly mountainous? Is it considered part of the Massif Central?
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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April 22, 2012, 03:58:30 pm »
Quote from: Beet on April 22, 2012, 03:48:13 pm
Overall, it candidates running on anti-neoliberal platforms look to take about a third of the vote. And this is before the austerity thrashing Germany is about to deliver France in the next few years. After that, we'll have a real competition. Unthinkable five years ago. Unthinkable.
Well, it was certainly obvious 3 years ago, at least.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #169 on:
April 22, 2012, 03:59:57 pm »
Hollande refused the 3 debates.
Dunno if debates can have a big importance in
this
election, but that's certainly an excercise that could be
tough
for Hollande against Sarkozy.
Quote from: Nathan on April 22, 2012, 03:57:26 pm
What sort of place is Corrèze? It seems really rural, possibly mountainous? Is it considered part of the Massif Central?
Lived there several years while a child. It's definitely part of Massif Central yes, very green, lot of forests, middle mountains, quite rural, slightly conservative, but still rather open minded, something along the rest of Limousin, might be the most rightist département of this région.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #170 on:
April 22, 2012, 04:02:23 pm »
Imagine how well Melenchon would be doing right now against a disappointing PS incumbent in the same vein as Zapatero or Socrates who implemented a series of neo-liberal reforms in the midst of a crippling recession...
Hollande's presidency is going to be a disaster to say the least.
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Quote from: Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay on April 22, 2012, 03:59:57 pm
Quote from: Nathan on April 22, 2012, 03:57:26 pm
What sort of place is Corrèze? It seems really rural, possibly mountainous? Is it considered part of the Massif Central?
Lived there several years while a child. It's definitely part of Massif Central yes, very green, lot of forests, middle mountains, quite rural, slightly conservative, but still rather open minded, something along the rest of Limousin, might be the most rightist département of this région.
So Hollande's from a sort of low-key rural leftist background, culturally? That sounds nice, actually. Too bad he's going to be inheriting and presiding over an absolute sh**tstorm.
Where is Mélenchon ostensibly from, other than 'Morocco'?
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Quote from: Sam Spade on April 22, 2012, 03:58:30 pm
Quote from: Beet on April 22, 2012, 03:48:13 pm
Overall, it candidates running on anti-neoliberal platforms look to take about a third of the vote. And this is before the austerity thrashing Germany is about to deliver France in the next few years. After that, we'll have a real competition. Unthinkable five years ago. Unthinkable.
Well, it was certainly obvious 3 years ago, at least.
Maybe to you.
Three years ago the euro crisis hadn't broken out, and most people didn't realize how bad it would get. In any case, just noting it down.
I'm proud of how well Melenchon did. He started out as a gadfly, and it looks like he may do better than Jean-Marie in 2007. Impressive. I'm certain he took some votes from FN as well.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Quote from: Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay on April 22, 2012, 03:59:57 pm
Hollande refused the 3 debates.
Dunno if debates can have a big importance in
this
election, but that's certainly an excercise that could be
tough
for Hollande against Sarkozy.
Quote from: Nathan on April 22, 2012, 03:57:26 pm
What sort of place is Corrèze? It seems really rural, possibly mountainous? Is it considered part of the Massif Central?
Lived there several years while a child. It's definitely part of Massif Central yes, very green, lot of forests, middle mountains, quite rural, slightly conservative, but still rather open minded, something along the rest of Limousin, might be the most rightist département of this région.
If Hollande is elected, he'd be the second President of Corrèze General Council elected President of the Republic after Chirac.
Interestingly both Chirac and Hollande were from outside of Corrèze, but made their political bases there. Chirac is from Paris, Hollande from Rouen.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Quote from: IDS Legislator Kalwejt on April 22, 2012, 04:04:51 pm
Interestingly both Chirac and Hollande were from outside of Corrèze, but made their political bases there. Chirac is from Paris, Hollande from Rouen.
Ah. I remember Chirac was also Mayor of Paris for some time. I'm always amazed by how much of what would here be seen as blatant carpetbagging goes on in Europe.
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