France 2012: Official Results Thread

[Californian Tony]

Meh, that's a pathetic result. We deserved >54%, at least.

[Insula Dei]

I love the 'The President has left the Elysée' routine the French media perform on election night. What's the added value of some motorbike-riding camera risking his life trying to film the tainted windows of Sarko's car?

[Nagas]

Hollande was "elected" based on a 4 point spread in an exit poll?  If so, all I can say is no one would so call an election based on that in the US.

European exit polls tend to be a lot more on the mark than their American counterparts. I suspect it's because turnout is a lot higher so there's little difference between "likely" and "registered voters" in France and other Europeans nations.

To all the naysayers: Hollande isn't in office yet. We have to see how he will govern and how effective he is.

[Vasall des Midas]

There's also the issue of much of the country actually being counted already, just not formally collated.

[Torie]

Hollande was "elected" based on a 4 point spread in an exit poll?  If so, all I can say is no one would so call an election based on that in the US.

France has 7 exit pollsters, they cannot be all wrong.

The exit polls actually vary from 52 to 53.5% for Hollande.

OK. I would still be a tad leery myself. How does the registered versus likely voters thing affect exit polls, which presumably are of "already voted" voters?  And do they have any vote by mail? I am not saying Hollande has not won, but what I am saying, is that anything less than about 54%, and you need to wait for some raw votes in the US. I think Gore was ahead by at least 6% in the Florida exit poll. So the networks rushed to call it, and the rest is history.

[Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay]

I love the 'The President has left the Elysée' routine the French media perform on election night. What's the added value of some motorbike-riding camera risking his life trying to film the tainted windows of Sarko's car?

It's a 1995 France2 pattern, and then it took all other TVs, ah well...

Everybody find it stupid but everybody would be surprised it doesn't happen I guess ^^

[Tender Branson]

Exit Polls:



Turnout: 81.5%

[Sibboleth]

Mitterrand took about 51.8% in 1981, interestingly enough.

[Roma Caput Mundi]

Allez Hollande!

[Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay]

lol, Morano and Dati's face...allez...SALUT!

[JulioMadrid]

Poor Phil. He was absolutely sure. And Holland finally won in an upset haaaaaaahahahahahaha

[Democratic Hawk]

Mitterrand took about 51.8% in 1981, interestingly enough.

Yep. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_presidential_election,_1981

[Torie]

Does it really matter who runs France?  I mean, isn't the international economic/debt leash on it so tight now, that the government's only big decision is what color of pencils to use?  Just asking.

[Beet]

Mitterrand took about 51.8% in 1981, interestingly enough.

Yep. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_presidential_election,_1981

Thanks man. I hadn't realized to look at wikipedia.

[Insula Dei]

Does it really matter who runs France?  I mean, isn't the international economic/debt leash on it so tight now, that the government's only big decision is what color of pencils to use?  Just asking.

You're in the wrong thread. That'd be Greece.

[Simfan34]

So if Hollande messes up what are the chances we see Sarkozy again in 2017? Or does that not happen in France?

[Nagas]

Does it really matter who runs France?  I mean, isn't the international economic/debt leash on it so tight now, that the government's only big decision is what color of pencils to use?  Just asking.

Hollande appears to be more in favor of expansionary policies at the expense to Debt/GDP, but still wants to run a surplus by 2017. If he could pull it off, France, not Germany, would be the economic engine of Europe.

[Proud Lieberal from Northeast]

Sarkozy is joining Giscard club.

Alas, poor Valery

[Andrea]

Lot: Hollande 61.89%
Guadalupe: Hollande 71.93%
Martinique: Hollande 68.43%
Nouvelle Caledonie: Sarkozy 63.04%
Guyane: Hollande 62.05%
Polynesie: Sarko 53.26
St Pierre et Miquelon: Hollande 65.3
Wallies et Fatuna: Hollande 56.06
Saint Martin/Saint Barthelemy: Sarkozy 59.43%

[You kip if you want to...]

Lot 62-38 Hollande

[Insula Dei]

Sarko's audience is really rather noisy and all around annoying.

[Beet]

Does it really matter who runs France?

Between the two guys running today? Not really. Hollande has different bluster but in the end Merkel holds the whip over him same as his predecessor. If Le Pen or Melenchon however, then you'd have potential for something (good or bad- up to you).

[You kip if you want to...]

No, don't thank him idiots.

[Vasall des Midas]

Does it really matter who runs France?  I mean, isn't the international economic/debt leash on it so tight now, that the government's only big decision is what color of pencils to use?  Just asking.

Nah. France (and Sarko) is fairly big, it'll shake the tiny pro-total-deluge bureaucratic minority that currently runs things. Though only, of course, up to a point - PS being a centrist social democratic party. This might prevent your type from self-destructing, but it won't shake your grip on power.

So if Hollande messes up what are the chances we see Sarkozy again in 2017? Or does that not happen in France?

Happens in France, but won't to that thing. Trust me on that. A Sarkozy that's proven his beatability might as well never have been born in terms of future electability. Not that that ends his type of politics, of course. Not in the slightest.

Sarkozy is joining Giscard club.

Alas, poor Valery

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

[Andrea]

Ariège: Hollande 64.69%