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France 2012: Official Results Thread
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For the first round (and the runoff), please post all results and result-related stuff in here; please post stupidities and the other stuff in the main thread. If anybody on here is interested, I'll mostly be liveblogging throughout the evening with full results as early as 18:00 (French time).
As a self-proclaimed specialist of France's electoral geography; here are my personal recommendations for some interesting and 'key' communes to watch for, which will probably be the main pastime after the exit polls. If you need a few key places to keep track of how things are going, here's where to look in priority:
Affluent right-wing strongholds: Neuilly, Paris-16eme, Saint-Cloud, Maisons-Lafitte, St. Germain-en-Laye, Saint-Ismier, Ste. Adresse, Saint-Didier-au-Mont-d'Or, Vincennes, Saint-Mande, Saint-Maur
Educated middle-class/affluent left-leaning/swing areas: Paris (entirety), Orsay, Palaiseau, Aix-en-Provence, Grenoble, Chambery, Villeneuve-d'Ascq
Comfortable middle-class suburbia (left-leaning): Cesson-Sevigne, Orvault, Vertou, Suce-sur-Erdre, Chauray, Pessac, Merignac, Tournefeuille, Blagnac, Cachan, Fresnes, L'Hay-les-Roses, Montrouge, Vanves,
Comfortable middle-class suburbia (right-leaning): Saint-Gregoire, Sautron, Le Bouscat, Bruges, L'Union, Balma, Castelnau-le-Lez, Lattes, Meylan, Fontaine-les-Dijon, Mont-Saint-Aignan, Bois-Guillaume, Marcq-en-Baroeul, Clamart, Antony, Sceaux, Levallois, Courbevoie, Sucy-en-Brie, Velizy (
), Rambouillet
Bobo central: Lyon-1er, Lyon-4eme, Paris-3eme, Paris-10eme, Les Lilas, Montreuil
Old people dying on beaches: Menton, Antibes, Cannes, Saint-Raphael, Saint-Tropez, Saint-Raphael, Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer, La Grande-Motte, Saint-Cyprien, Saint-Jean-de-Luz, Les Sables-d'Olonne, La Baule, Dinard, Deauville, Trouville
Lepenistes4Hungarians 2007: Orange, Carpentras, Vitrolles, Marignane, Aubagne, Carnoux-en-Provence, Béziers, Sete, La-Tour-du-Pin, Aigues-Mortes, Vauvert, Saint-Gilles
Right-wing working class: Sainte-Sigolène, Mazamet, Toul, Carling, Freyming, Forbach, Stiring-Wendel, Saint-Amarin, Oyonnax, Cluses, Scionzier
Gaucho-sarkozyste working-class area: Gandrange, Tourcoing, Wattrelos, Maubeuge, Dunkerque, Montbéliard, Sochaux
Gaucho-lepeniste working-class area: Henin-Beaumont, Lens, Bethune, Bruay-la-Buissiere, Lievin, Halluin, Grande-Synthe, Roubaix, Moyeuvre-Grande, Hayange, Fameck, Woippy, Lavelanet
Socialist working-class area: Thiers, Carmaux, Decazeville, Lacq, Lormont, Cenon, Saint-Nazaire, Cherbourg-Octeville, Trelaze, Brest, Montceau-les-Mines, Digoin
Communist working-class area: Givors, Brassac-les-Mines, Commentry, Vierzon, Saint-Junien, La Grand-Combe, Port-Saint-Louis-du-Rhône, Saint-Pierre-des-Corps, Allonnes, Dives-sur-Mer, Gonfreville-L'Orcher, Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, Dieppe, Calais, Divion, Auchel, Carvin, Avion, Seclin, Denain, Saint-Amand-les-Eaux, Marchiennes, Longwy, Villerupt, Hussigny-Godbrange, Garchizy, Saint-Martin-d'Hères, Fontaine
'Periurbain lointain' (Distant exurban, a topic of much conversation): Mormant, Nangis, Donnemarie-Dontilly, Villeneuve-la-Guyard, Coulommiers, Lizy-sur-Ourcq, Pusignan, Meyzieu, Bourgoin-Jallieu
'Banlieue populaire': Venissieux, Vaulx-en-Velin, Givors, Herouville-Saint-Clair, Mantes-la-Jolie, Les Mureaux, Trappes, Grigny, Les Ulis, Argenteuil, Saint-Denis, Aubervilliers, La Courneuve, Garges-les-Gonesse
Favourite sons: Tulle, Neuilly, Henin-Beaumont, Massy, Borderes, Yerres, Sarran
A good bellwether might be Donzy (Nievre).
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Is that noon Eastern time?
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Quote from: Hatman on April 21, 2012, 04:45:11 pm
Is that noon Eastern time?
Yep. I wonder when the debate will be. Now that will be fun... for Sarko.
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Never thought I'd say this, but I'm praying for another black-yellow majority, and for the SPD to get shattered. It's exactly what it deserves.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Ah, Béziers. Fond memories.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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You're the best, as usual.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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April 22, 2012, 07:52:15 am »
At noon, abstention is quite low:
71.7
against 68.8 in 2007
78.6 in 2002
77 in 1995
72.9 in 1988
74.1 in 1981
Theoretically, good news for Hollande and Mélenchon.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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April 22, 2012, 08:03:14 am »
Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon
Hollande 33.75% > 2007: 26.6%
Sarkozy 18.75% > 2007: 24.9%
Marine 15.81% > 2002: 13.4%
Melenchon 15.17%
Bayrou 7.37% > 2007: 23%
Poutou 3.81% > 2007: 6.5%
Guadeloupe
Hollande 57% > 2007: 38.3%
Sarkozy 23.4% > 2007: 42.6%
Melenchon 5.38%
Marine 5.16% > 2007: 3.2%
Bayrou 4.73% > 2007: 8.5%
Joly 1.47% > 2002: 1.2%
Guyane
Hollande 42.73% > 2007: 32.5%
Sarkozy 27.03% > 2007: 41.4%
Marine 10.5% > 2007: 5.5%
Melenchon 7.91%
Bayrou 6.24% > 2007: 12.5%
Saint-Martin
Hollande 35.32% > 2007: 32.3%
Sarkozy 34% > 2007: 42.6%
Marine 12.5% > 2007: 6.7%
Melenchon 6.36%
Bayrou 6.34% > 2007: 9.2%
Horrible
numbers for Sarko. Added 2007 comparisons.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Fortunately, it's "only" overseas territories. But he will be trounced if it's the same in continental France
At least, I may be right on only one point: we are back in 1988.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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I just voted !
Second vote in my life, first in France and first for an electoral contest.
The perfect election to officially become a citizen.
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Quote from: Antonio V on April 22, 2012, 08:47:34 am
I just voted !
Second vote in my life, first in France and first for an electoral contest.
The perfect election to officially become a citizen.
This morning, in my polling station, I felt like there were only leftist voters... really...
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Quote from: big bad fab on April 22, 2012, 09:07:21 am
Quote from: Antonio V on April 22, 2012, 08:47:34 am
I just voted !
Second vote in my life, first in France and first for an electoral contest.
The perfect election to officially become a citizen.
This morning, in my polling station, I felt like there were only leftist voters... really...
What kind of precinct do you live in ?
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Truer today than it was yesterday.
"A good portion of this country has created an alternate universe. I call this place were these folks live Bullsh*t Mountain. The denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain believe many things: they believe that a Kenyan Muslim President has fundamentally changed the relationship between government and the people of this country."
Jon Stewart
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What's the general mood on the street? What are people talking about? Are there any rumors circulating? In what direction does the momentum feel to be going? Are the candidates' partisans optimistic?
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"Bayrou" is French for "joke".
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Quote from: Antonio V on April 22, 2012, 08:47:34 am
I just voted !
Second vote in my life, first in France and first for an electoral contest.
The perfect election to officially become a citizen.
That is a good feeling
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Quote from: Antonio V on April 22, 2012, 09:18:54 am
Quote from: big bad fab on April 22, 2012, 09:07:21 am
Quote from: Antonio V on April 22, 2012, 08:47:34 am
I just voted !
Second vote in my life, first in France and first for an electoral contest.
The perfect election to officially become a citizen.
This morning, in my polling station, I felt like there were only leftist voters... really...
What kind of precinct do you live in ?
Leftist suburbian in the West... "Kind", "PC" and all the stuff... This old "left christian" influence that I hate
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Your list is excellent, Hash. How would you classify Angoulême in Charente? I ask as I went there recently and saw a lot of Melenchon posters.
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Quote from: Antonio V on April 22, 2012, 08:47:34 am
I just voted !
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The perfect election to officially become a citizen.
Congrats, young'un!
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Quote from: Tommy Wiseau on April 22, 2012, 09:40:41 am
Your list is excellent, Hash. How would you classify Angoulême in Charente? I ask as I went there recently and saw a lot of Melenchon posters.
Angoulême is a fairly lower middle-class city, with a majority of the active population being part of what the Marxists out there would classify as the "proletariat" (ouvriers+employes). Similar to Saintes, La Roche, Brest, Lorient, Laval or Le Mans in terms of fairly moderate left-leaning lower middle-class cities. Not as affluent or professional as Nantes, Bordeaux or Rennes.
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You kip if you want to...
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Any live streams for tonight?
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Hash, are those the actual results from the overseas territories (If so, where's Martinique?) or just exit polls?
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At 5 PM turnout was 70,59% according to the Huffington Post.
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Quote from: Mist on April 22, 2012, 10:31:40 am
Hash, are those the actual results from the overseas territories (If so, where's Martinique?) or just exit polls?
Actual (leaked) results.
For anybody who's interested, my liveblog is set up here:
http://welections.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/france-2012-liveblogging-the-first-round/
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Google has a live results tally tool:
http://www.google.com/elections/ed/fr/results
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For those like me who want to live in expectation and suspense, please don't post the leaked exit poll details on here. If you want, just post the url link to them so that those who can't wait can see them but those who don't can restrain their urges.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Guys, I'm going out. I'm going to attend the election night at Sciences Po (my university). No spoiler, no live comment, nothing, but it will surely be an awesome night.
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"A good portion of this country has created an alternate universe. I call this place were these folks live Bullsh*t Mountain. The denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain believe many things: they believe that a Kenyan Muslim President has fundamentally changed the relationship between government and the people of this country."
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