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« on: April 21, 2012, 04:30:05 pm »
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For the first round (and the runoff), please post all results and result-related stuff in here; please post stupidities and the other stuff in the main thread. If anybody on here is interested, I'll mostly be liveblogging throughout the evening with full results as early as 18:00 (French time).

As a self-proclaimed specialist of France's electoral geography; here are my personal recommendations for some interesting and 'key' communes to watch for, which will probably be the main pastime after the exit polls. If you need a few key places to keep track of how things are going, here's where to look in priority:

Affluent right-wing strongholds: Neuilly, Paris-16eme, Saint-Cloud, Maisons-Lafitte, St. Germain-en-Laye, Saint-Ismier, Ste. Adresse, Saint-Didier-au-Mont-d'Or, Vincennes, Saint-Mande, Saint-Maur

Educated middle-class/affluent left-leaning/swing areas: Paris (entirety), Orsay, Palaiseau, Aix-en-Provence, Grenoble, Chambery, Villeneuve-d'Ascq

Comfortable middle-class suburbia (left-leaning): Cesson-Sevigne, Orvault, Vertou, Suce-sur-Erdre, Chauray, Pessac, Merignac, Tournefeuille, Blagnac, Cachan, Fresnes, L'Hay-les-Roses, Montrouge, Vanves,

Comfortable middle-class suburbia (right-leaning): Saint-Gregoire, Sautron, Le Bouscat, Bruges, L'Union, Balma, Castelnau-le-Lez, Lattes, Meylan, Fontaine-les-Dijon, Mont-Saint-Aignan, Bois-Guillaume, Marcq-en-Baroeul, Clamart, Antony, Sceaux, Levallois, Courbevoie, Sucy-en-Brie, Velizy (Wink), Rambouillet

Bobo central: Lyon-1er, Lyon-4eme, Paris-3eme, Paris-10eme, Les Lilas, Montreuil

Old people dying on beaches: Menton, Antibes, Cannes, Saint-Raphael, Saint-Tropez, Saint-Raphael, Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer, La Grande-Motte, Saint-Cyprien, Saint-Jean-de-Luz, Les Sables-d'Olonne, La Baule, Dinard, Deauville, Trouville

Lepenistes4Hungarians 2007: Orange, Carpentras, Vitrolles, Marignane, Aubagne, Carnoux-en-Provence, Béziers, Sete, La-Tour-du-Pin, Aigues-Mortes, Vauvert, Saint-Gilles

Right-wing working class: Sainte-Sigolène, Mazamet, Toul, Carling, Freyming, Forbach, Stiring-Wendel, Saint-Amarin, Oyonnax, Cluses, Scionzier

Gaucho-sarkozyste working-class area: Gandrange, Tourcoing, Wattrelos, Maubeuge, Dunkerque, Montbéliard, Sochaux

Gaucho-lepeniste working-class area: Henin-Beaumont, Lens, Bethune, Bruay-la-Buissiere, Lievin, Halluin, Grande-Synthe, Roubaix, Moyeuvre-Grande, Hayange, Fameck, Woippy, Lavelanet

Socialist working-class area: Thiers, Carmaux, Decazeville, Lacq, Lormont, Cenon, Saint-Nazaire, Cherbourg-Octeville, Trelaze, Brest, Montceau-les-Mines, Digoin

Communist working-class area: Givors, Brassac-les-Mines, Commentry, Vierzon, Saint-Junien, La Grand-Combe, Port-Saint-Louis-du-Rhône, Saint-Pierre-des-Corps, Allonnes, Dives-sur-Mer, Gonfreville-L'Orcher, Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, Dieppe, Calais, Divion, Auchel, Carvin, Avion, Seclin, Denain, Saint-Amand-les-Eaux, Marchiennes, Longwy, Villerupt, Hussigny-Godbrange, Garchizy, Saint-Martin-d'Hères, Fontaine

'Periurbain lointain' (Distant exurban, a topic of much conversation): Mormant, Nangis, Donnemarie-Dontilly, Villeneuve-la-Guyard, Coulommiers, Lizy-sur-Ourcq, Pusignan, Meyzieu, Bourgoin-Jallieu

'Banlieue populaire': Venissieux, Vaulx-en-Velin, Givors, Herouville-Saint-Clair, Mantes-la-Jolie, Les Mureaux, Trappes, Grigny, Les Ulis, Argenteuil, Saint-Denis, Aubervilliers, La Courneuve, Garges-les-Gonesse

Favourite sons: Tulle, Neuilly, Henin-Beaumont, Massy, Borderes, Yerres, Sarran

A good bellwether might be Donzy (Nievre).
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2012, 04:45:11 pm »
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Is that noon Eastern time?
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2012, 04:46:38 pm »
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Is that noon Eastern time?

Yep. I wonder when the debate will be. Now that will be fun... for Sarko.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2012, 04:58:46 pm »
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Ah, Béziers. Fond memories.
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2012, 05:23:31 pm »
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You're the best, as usual. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2012, 07:52:15 am »
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At noon, abstention is quite low:
71.7
against 68.8 in 2007
78.6 in 2002
77 in 1995
72.9 in 1988
74.1 in 1981

Theoretically, good news for Hollande and Mélenchon.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 08:03:14 am »
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Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon

Hollande 33.75% > 2007: 26.6%
Sarkozy 18.75% > 2007: 24.9%
Marine 15.81% > 2002: 13.4%
Melenchon 15.17%
Bayrou 7.37% > 2007: 23%
Poutou 3.81% > 2007: 6.5%

Guadeloupe

Hollande 57% > 2007: 38.3%
Sarkozy 23.4% > 2007: 42.6%
Melenchon 5.38%
Marine 5.16% > 2007: 3.2%
Bayrou 4.73% > 2007: 8.5%
Joly 1.47% > 2002: 1.2%

Guyane

Hollande 42.73% > 2007: 32.5%
Sarkozy 27.03% > 2007: 41.4%
Marine 10.5% > 2007: 5.5%
Melenchon 7.91%
Bayrou 6.24% > 2007: 12.5%

Saint-Martin

Hollande 35.32% > 2007: 32.3%
Sarkozy 34% > 2007: 42.6%
Marine 12.5% > 2007: 6.7%
Melenchon 6.36%
Bayrou 6.34% > 2007: 9.2%

Horrible numbers for Sarko. Added 2007 comparisons.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2012, 08:05:46 am »
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Fortunately, it's "only" overseas territories. But he will be trounced if it's the same in continental France Sad

At least, I may be right on only one point: we are back in 1988.
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2012, 08:47:34 am »
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I just voted ! Smiley Second vote in my life, first in France and first for an electoral contest.

The perfect election to officially become a citizen. Cheesy
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I just voted ! Smiley Second vote in my life, first in France and first for an electoral contest.

The perfect election to officially become a citizen. Cheesy

This morning, in my polling station, I felt like there were only leftist voters... really... Sad Sad Sad
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I just voted ! Smiley Second vote in my life, first in France and first for an electoral contest.

The perfect election to officially become a citizen. Cheesy

This morning, in my polling station, I felt like there were only leftist voters... really... Sad Sad Sad

What kind of precinct do you live in ?
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2012, 09:24:46 am »
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What's the general mood on the street? What are people talking about? Are there any rumors circulating? In what direction does the momentum feel to be going? Are the candidates' partisans optimistic?
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"Bayrou" is French for "joke".
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I just voted ! Smiley Second vote in my life, first in France and first for an electoral contest.

The perfect election to officially become a citizen. Cheesy

That is a good feeling Smiley
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I just voted ! Smiley Second vote in my life, first in France and first for an electoral contest.

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This morning, in my polling station, I felt like there were only leftist voters... really... Sad Sad Sad

What kind of precinct do you live in ?

Leftist suburbian in the West... "Kind", "PC" and all the stuff... This old "left christian" influence that I hate Grin
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Your list is excellent, Hash. How would you classify Angoulême in Charente? I ask as I went there recently and saw a lot of Melenchon posters.
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Congrats, young'un!
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2012, 10:15:36 am »
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Your list is excellent, Hash. How would you classify Angoulême in Charente? I ask as I went there recently and saw a lot of Melenchon posters.

Angoulême is a fairly lower middle-class city, with a majority of the active population being part of what the Marxists out there would classify as the "proletariat" (ouvriers+employes). Similar to Saintes, La Roche, Brest, Lorient, Laval or Le Mans in terms of fairly moderate left-leaning lower middle-class cities. Not as affluent or professional as Nantes, Bordeaux or Rennes.
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2012, 10:31:40 am »
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Hash, are those the actual results from the overseas territories (If so, where's Martinique?) or just exit polls?
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2012, 10:37:24 am »
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At 5 PM turnout was 70,59% according to the Huffington Post.
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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2012, 10:53:59 am »
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Hash, are those the actual results from the overseas territories (If so, where's Martinique?) or just exit polls?

Actual (leaked) results.

For anybody who's interested, my liveblog is set up here: http://welections.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/france-2012-liveblogging-the-first-round/
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Google has a live results tally tool:

http://www.google.com/elections/ed/fr/results
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2012, 11:06:41 am »
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For those like me who want to live in expectation and suspense, please don't post the leaked exit poll details on here. If you want, just post the url link to them so that those who can't wait can see them but those who don't can restrain their urges.
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2012, 11:14:16 am »
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Guys, I'm going out. I'm going to attend the election night at Sciences Po (my university). No spoiler, no live comment, nothing, but it will surely be an awesome night. Cheesy
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"A good portion of this country has created an alternate universe. I call this place were these folks live Bullsh*t Mountain. The denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain believe many things: they believe that a Kenyan Muslim President has fundamentally changed the relationship between government and the people of this country."

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