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« Reply #250 on: April 22, 2012, 06:08:08 pm »
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Why are the rural areas of France so left-wing?

Which ones?

euh...yes...kinda what I was going to say...

It looks like most of them except for the eastern border areas.
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« Reply #251 on: April 22, 2012, 06:10:19 pm »
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Why are the rural areas of France so left-wing?

Which ones?

euh...yes...kinda what I was going to say...

It looks like most of them except for the eastern border areas.

Well, look at Aveyron, just for one...

I'm not a data junkie but rural might where the Right do the biggest in France, that's at least how it's culturally seen.
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« Reply #252 on: April 22, 2012, 06:10:54 pm »
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Are Le Pen voters the most likely to sit the run-off out?
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« Reply #253 on: April 22, 2012, 06:12:17 pm »
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Why are the rural areas of France so left-wing?

Which ones?

euh...yes...kinda what I was going to say...

It looks like most of them except for the eastern border areas.

Well, look at Aveyron, just for one...

I'm not a data junkie but rural might where the Right do the biggest in France, that's at least how it's culturally seen.

What about Aveyron?

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I'm not a data junkie but rural might where the Right do the biggest in France, that's at least how it's culturally seen.

lol, come on dude. You're not seriously telling me that you're less knowledgeable about this than I am. I know that's not true.

The Right seems to be doing the best in medium-sized industrial cities in the east and north, not rural areas.
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« Reply #254 on: April 22, 2012, 06:14:10 pm »
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Are Le Pen voters the most likely to sit the run-off out?

...and Bayrou's.

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« Reply #255 on: April 22, 2012, 06:14:28 pm »
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Hollade leads in Esssone by 5 points. Marine at 15%
Sarko led  Yvelines by 7 points with Le Pen at 12%
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« Reply #256 on: April 22, 2012, 06:15:50 pm »
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What about Aveyron?

http://www.google.com/elections/ed/fr/results

it's the big pink one siding the 2 blue ones between Toulouse and Montpellier.
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« Reply #257 on: April 22, 2012, 06:16:55 pm »
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What about Aveyron?

http://www.google.com/elections/ed/fr/results

it's the big pink one siding the 2 blue ones between Toulouse and Montpellier.

And your point being...
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« Reply #258 on: April 22, 2012, 06:18:51 pm »
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Yay, Haute-Marne:

N. Sarkozy : 27,99%
M. Le Pen : 25,26%
F. Hollande : 23,75%
J-L. Mélenchon : 8,89%
F. Bayrou : 7,97%
N. Dupont-Aignan : 2,41%
E. Joly : 1,38%
P. Poutou : 1,33%
N. Arthaud : 0,79%
J. Cheminade : 0,24%


...that in this very rural département in a quite leftist French région, Midi-Pyrénées, you can find about as much communes in blue than in pink...
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« Reply #259 on: April 22, 2012, 06:21:33 pm »
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Hauts-de-Seine for Sarzoky by 5 points.

So what is remaining?
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Val d'Oise
Bouches du Rhone
Rhone

Saint Denis should have Hollande comfortably ahead. Delanoe said earlier that Hollande was ahead in Paris with around 60% reported. I would expect Hollande leading in Val d'Oise too.
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« Reply #260 on: April 22, 2012, 06:21:59 pm »
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...that in this very rural département in a quite leftist French région, Midi-Pyrénées, you can find about as much communes in blue than in pink...

But Hollande still outperformed there and Sarko and Le Pen underperformed, overall. Is Herault, to its south, not in the same region? Hollande did far worse there and Le Pen far better, although Sarko about the same.
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« Reply #261 on: April 22, 2012, 06:25:03 pm »

Hollande's constituency is in the Corrèze department. The Poison Dwarf is very much an urban politician and can't help but come across as such (whenever he tries not to be so, the result is but a confirmation).

But almost all French departments have a massive rural element.
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« Reply #262 on: April 22, 2012, 06:25:32 pm »
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...that in this very rural département in a quite leftist French région, Midi-Pyrénées, you can find about as much communes in blue than in pink...

But Hollande still outperformed there and Sarko and Le Pen underperformed, overall. Is Herault, to its south, not in the same region? Hollande did far worse there and Le Pen far better, although Sarko about the same.

Yeah, that's what I was saying in my stuff about climate and Mediterranean arch, Aveyron is part of South-West, doesn't belong to the Mediterranean climate area.

And all those départements that you can see in blue in the western half of the country are also quite rural, well, just enjoy to pass your mouse on all dpts and if you have an idea of where are most of French agglomerations/urbanized parts, you might see that what you were saying wouldn't be necessarily true...
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« Reply #263 on: April 22, 2012, 06:27:47 pm »
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Hollande's constituency is in the Corrèze department. The Poison Dwarf is very much an urban politician and can't help but come across as such (whenever he tries not to be so, the result is but a confirmation).

But almost all French departments have a massive rural element.

And a rather massive network of small cities too, but not necessarily close from each other, then we can't really speak of urbanized area, to sum it up France might have one of the lowest (if not the lowest?) urban density of Europe.
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« Reply #264 on: April 22, 2012, 06:29:14 pm »

Of note, because it came so early that we missed it, Hollande carried Belfort.

And a rather massive network of small cities too, but not necessarily close from each other, then we can't really speak of urbanized area, to sum it up France might have one of the lowest (if not the lowest?) urban density of Europe.

And has always been... different... in terms of so many basic demographic factors.
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« Reply #265 on: April 22, 2012, 06:30:48 pm »
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...that in this very rural département in a quite leftist French région, Midi-Pyrénées, you can find about as much communes in blue than in pink...

But Hollande still outperformed there and Sarko and Le Pen underperformed, overall. Is Herault, to its south, not in the same region? Hollande did far worse there and Le Pen far better, although Sarko about the same.

Yeah, that's what I was saying in my stuff about climate and Mediterranean arch, Aveyron is part of South-West, doesn't belong to the Mediterranean climate area.

And all those départements that you can see in blue in the western half of the country are also quite rural, well, just enjoy to pass your mouse on all dpts and if you have an idea of where are most of French agglomerations/urbanized parts, you might see that what you were saying wouldn't be necessarily true...

Ah, ok thanks.
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« Reply #266 on: April 22, 2012, 06:32:47 pm »
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« Reply #267 on: April 22, 2012, 06:33:50 pm »
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Paris 18!

François Hollande 33.709 43,03%
Nicolas Sarkozy 15.253 19,47%
Jean-Luc Mélenchon 12.019 15,34% Indeed!
François Bayrou 6.059 7,74%
Marine Le Pen 5.150 6,57%
Eva Joly 4.238 5,41%
Philippe Poutou 716 0,91%
Nicolas Dupont-Aignan 675 0,86%
Nathalie Arthaud 318 0,41%
Jacques Cheminade 195 0,25%
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« Reply #268 on: April 22, 2012, 06:35:52 pm »
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And to finish Bretagne, Morbihan shows as the most rightist:

F. Hollande : 28,29%
N. Sarkozy : 28,16%
M. Le Pen : 15,55%
F. Bayrou : 10,85%
J-L. Mélenchon : 10,24%
E. Joly : 2,81%
N. Dupont-Aignan : 1,85%
P. Poutou : 1,37%
N. Arthaud : 0,61%
J. Cheminade : 0,27%
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« Reply #269 on: April 22, 2012, 06:36:47 pm »
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Val d'Oise for Hollande, details at eleven.
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« Reply #270 on: April 22, 2012, 06:37:08 pm »
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Définitif Bouches du Rhône : François Hollande 16.06%, Nicolas Sarkozy 35.20%, Marine Le Pen 23.74
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« Reply #271 on: April 22, 2012, 06:38:49 pm »
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Seriously, screw Provence.

I enjoy the fact that Panzergirl's best result is in Vaucluse, which isn't even the département that she won.
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« Reply #272 on: April 22, 2012, 06:41:31 pm »
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Dupont-Aignan wins Yerres
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« Reply #273 on: April 22, 2012, 06:43:05 pm »
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About Seine-Saint-Denis I remember having seen something from someone from there giving Mélenchon 2nd with 20% in La Courneuve, the 1st was Hollande iirc, but I can't find official results.

Anyways, places like Val-de-Marne and Seine-Saint-Denis would help JLM, but also some places of Paris (the bobos and rough ones), BdR/Marseille can still help MLP though.

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« Reply #274 on: April 22, 2012, 06:44:31 pm »
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Dupont-Aignan wins Yerres

That's where he voted, I guess he lives/has a madate there or something then.
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