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« Reply #300 on: April 22, 2012, 07:36:00 PM »

Le Parisien is reporting Paris: Hollande 34.8%; Sarkozy 32.2%; Melanchon 11.1%; Bayrou 9.3%; Le Pen 6.2%; Jolly 4.2%
The best result for Joly...
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« Reply #301 on: April 22, 2012, 07:36:25 PM »

Are there enough votes in Paris for Hollande to break 10 million?
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« Reply #302 on: April 22, 2012, 07:36:41 PM »

Le Parisien is reporting Paris: Hollande 34.8%; Sarkozy 32.2%; Melanchon 11.1%; Bayrou 9.3%; Le Pen 6.2%; Jolly 4.2%

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Is that 'bad' for a centre-right candidate?
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« Reply #303 on: April 22, 2012, 07:37:16 PM »

And it's not only the parts of North-East that are doomed by unemployment or which have an 'awful big city full of Arab scums' like Strasbourg who are touched by a very high Le Pen, I don't know precisely usual votting patterns in the 'neat peaceful and so flowered calm Haut-Rhin' but this still seems huge to me:

N. Sarkozy : 31,91%
M. Le Pen : 23,43%
F. Hollande : 18,89%
F. Bayrou : 11,39%
J-L. Mélenchon : 7,42%
E. Joly : 2,71%
N. Dupont-Aignan : 2,10%
P. Poutou : 1,19%
N. Arthaud : 0,64%
J. Cheminade : 0,33%

NDA victorious in his hometown by a whisker! Unfortunately for him, no luck in any of the other 37,000 communes.

36.000 communes please. And this is big enough, trying to reduce it seems to be an hard enough thing that govts regularly try that you better don't add some more...

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« Reply #304 on: April 22, 2012, 07:38:52 PM »

Would the Obama administration be loosing a key ally here? I imagine that Obama's views are closer to those of Sarkozy than Hollande.
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« Reply #305 on: April 22, 2012, 07:39:02 PM »

A few interesting departments to look at in more detail for those who like such stuff;

Finistere
Ille-et-Vilaine (Chouannerie4Sarko!)
Mayenne
Loire-Atlantique
Vendee
Charente-Maritime
Deux-Sevres
Orne
Manche (apparently nuclear industry isn't scared about Hollande at all)
Seine-et-Marne
92 and 94
Haute-Marne
Moselle
Bas-Rhin
Haut-Rhin
Doubs
Savoie
Alpes-Maritimes
Bouches-du-Rhone
Rhone
Haute-Loire (quite something...)
Cantal (funny Correzian influence...)
Gard
Aveyron
Pyrenees-Atlantiques (where is Euskadi gone?)
Corse-du-Sud (compare to the regionalists in 2010...)
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« Reply #306 on: April 22, 2012, 07:39:20 PM »

Are there enough votes in Paris for Hollande to break 10 million?

Yes. 345,627 + 9,813,758 = 10,159,385
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« Reply #307 on: April 22, 2012, 07:42:21 PM »

And it's not only the parts of North-East that are doomed by unemployment or which have an 'awful big city full of Arab scums' like Strasbourg who are touched by a very high Le Pen, I don't know precisely usual votting patterns in the 'neat peaceful and so flowered calm Haut-Rhin' but this still seems huge to me:

N. Sarkozy : 31,91%
M. Le Pen : 23,43%
F. Hollande : 18,89%
F. Bayrou : 11,39%
J-L. Mélenchon : 7,42%
E. Joly : 2,71%
N. Dupont-Aignan : 2,10%
P. Poutou : 1,19%
N. Arthaud : 0,64%
J. Cheminade : 0,33%

NDA victorious in his hometown by a whisker! Unfortunately for him, no luck in any of the other 37,000 communes.

36.000 communes please. And this is big enough, trying to reduce it seems to be an hard enough thing that govts regularly try that you better don't add some more...


It's funny that they keep around some communes that no one lives in any more.
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« Reply #308 on: April 22, 2012, 07:46:02 PM »

Places where Marion has significantly underperformed daddy:

Ile-de-France except Seine-et-Marne
Alsace
Ain
Savoie (both of them, in a pretty big way... even Cluses-Scionzier is nowhere as Lepenite as I would have imagined)
Rhone
Alpes-Maritimes

I suppose a prize would be in order for one who could guess why this is... but I'll keep my apple pie prize for some other contest. Too easy.
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« Reply #309 on: April 22, 2012, 07:47:13 PM »



Vaucluse:

N. Sarkozy : 27,44%
M. Le Pen : 27,03%
F. Hollande : 22,34%
J-L. Mélenchon : 11,14%
F. Bayrou : 6,73%
E. Joly : 2,26%
N. Dupont-Aignan : 1,50%
P. Poutou : 0,95%
N. Arthaud : 0,39%
J. Cheminade : 0,21%

Marseille : Hollande (28,05%), Sarkozy (26,93%), Le Pen (21,22%), Mélenchon (13,83%), Bayrou (5,52%), Joly (2,15%), Dupont-Aignan (1,11%), Poutou (0,70%), Arthaud (0,31%), Cheminade (0,18%)

Lyon: Sarkozy (30,54%), Hollande (30,25%), Mélenchon (11,83%), Bayrou (10,66%), Le Pen (9,87%), Joly (4,09%), Dupont-Aignan (1,35%), Poutou (0,76%), Arthaud (0,40%), Cheminade (0,26%)

And, wow, Tarn-et-Garonne is pretty much an exception tonight in South-West:

F. Hollande : 27,63%
N. Sarkozy : 25,14%
M. Le Pen : 22,10%
J-L. Mélenchon : 11,19%
F. Bayrou : 8,28%
E. Joly : 1,97%
N. Dupont-Aignan : 1,76%
P. Poutou : 1,21%
N. Arthaud : 0,48%
J. Cheminade : 0,25%

It's funny that they keep around some communes that no one lives in any more.

Ah well, yeah, you can find some with about 15 people here and there...
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« Reply #310 on: April 22, 2012, 07:48:36 PM »

I don't know if people were paying attention to them, but Hollande landslided 4 of the 5 overseas departments.
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« Reply #311 on: April 22, 2012, 07:49:34 PM »

She wasn't so bad in alsace and Alpes-Maritimes, Hash. And she isn't very high in Nièvre, Loir-et-Cher, Indre, Orne.

Sure, from Lyon to Savoies, she wasn't good (but it was the same in Doubs and Côte d'Or).
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« Reply #312 on: April 22, 2012, 07:50:11 PM »


It's funny that they keep around some communes that no one lives in any more.

Ah well, yeah, you can find some with about 15 people here and there...

There are those too, in addition to the ones that literally have no one.
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« Reply #313 on: April 22, 2012, 07:50:17 PM »

Funny Catholic vs Protestant stuff going on in parts of the Gard... Just gleaning over results.
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« Reply #314 on: April 22, 2012, 07:53:23 PM »

She wasn't so bad in alsace and Alpes-Maritimes, Hash. And she isn't very high in Nièvre, Loir-et-Cher, Indre, Orne.

Sure, from Lyon to Savoies, she wasn't good (but it was the same in Doubs and Côte d'Or).

Daddy won 23% in Bas-Rhin and 23.5% in Haut-Rhin back in 02, and nearly 25% in 95. She's at 21 and 23% respectively. She's doing a bit less than 2% better than Daddy in 2002, so on a universal swing basis, she underperformed. Not that this surprises me one bit, I had already noted it in 2010. In the 06, Daddy took 26% in 02, she won 23.5%. Not surprising either, but still an underperformance.

Eure, otoh, is a nice result for her, just looking stuff over.
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« Reply #315 on: April 22, 2012, 07:56:05 PM »

I don't know if people were paying attention to them, but Hollande landslided 4 of the 5 overseas departments.

Which one did Sarkozy win?
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« Reply #316 on: April 22, 2012, 07:57:19 PM »

She wasn't so bad in alsace and Alpes-Maritimes, Hash. And she isn't very high in Nièvre, Loir-et-Cher, Indre, Orne.

Sure, from Lyon to Savoies, she wasn't good (but it was the same in Doubs and Côte d'Or).

Daddy won 23% in Bas-Rhin and 23.5% in Haut-Rhin back in 02, and nearly 25% in 95. She's at 21 and 23% respectively. She's doing a bit less than 2% better than Daddy in 2002, so on a universal swing basis, she underperformed. Not that this surprises me one bit, I had already noted it in 2010. In the 06, Daddy took 26% in 02, she won 23.5%. Not surprising either, but still an underperformance.

Eure, otoh, is a nice result for her, just looking stuff over.

Oh sure: I was thinking of 2007, not of 2002 or 1995.
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« Reply #317 on: April 22, 2012, 07:58:01 PM »

I don't know if people were paying attention to them, but Hollande landslided 4 of the 5 overseas departments.

Which one did Sarkozy win?

Mayotte.
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« Reply #318 on: April 22, 2012, 07:58:49 PM »

It will be interesting to compare Hollande's map with his own map in the PS primary and with maps of... Chirac Tongue

As a side note, seems as if Nièvre is "normalizing" in a way.
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« Reply #319 on: April 22, 2012, 07:59:09 PM »

I don't know if people were paying attention to them, but Hollande landslided 4 of the 5 overseas departments.

Which one did Sarkozy win?

Mayotte. It only became a department a year ago.
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« Reply #320 on: April 22, 2012, 07:59:57 PM »
« Edited: April 22, 2012, 08:02:42 PM by Benwah [why on Earth do I post something] Courseyay »

Yay Limousin!

Haute-Vienne:

F. Hollande : 35,93%
N. Sarkozy : 19,83%
M. Le Pen : 16,42%
J-L. Mélenchon : 14,36%
F. Bayrou : 7,89%
E. Joly : 1,80%
N. Dupont-Aignan : 1,66%
P. Poutou : 1,21%
N. Arthaud : 0,66%
J. Cheminade : 0,24%

Weakest dpt for the Right tonight?


It's funny that they keep around some communes that no one lives in any more.

Ah well, yeah, you can find some with about 15 people here and there...

There are those too, in addition to the ones that literally have no one.

Euh, I don't think so. Those are not communes, a commune is an administration, then there is a mayor, then there is some voters. Now you have some villages in which there are nobody left, and that you can even buy for some of them, but that is not a commune, those are only groups of old houses here or there. And then you also have hameaux, which are some small to very small groups of houses lost here or there somewhere, in which from only one to maybe a maximum of 30 people are living. Such groups of houses can be either some communes of 15 people then, of which the territory can be far more extended than those few houses since it can include some fields and or forests all around, or hameaux, which means that they are a group of houses belonging to a commune of which the center is somewhere else (and sometimes it can be very far away) in the countryside...

Welcome in France's rurality.
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« Reply #321 on: April 22, 2012, 08:04:07 PM »

Marine has done very well in old Communist working-class municipalities, historically so. Melenchon's appeal to the old PCF prole base has been fairly tepid to say the least. A comparison to Hue's 1995 map will be very interesting, I already know that Hue did better in the Allier in 95 than Memelenchon. The bad news is, I'll have to suffer through the loads and loads of douchebags who will use this as proof that there has always been a strong link between Commies and Fascists... just like the Commies use the 1984 Euros to prove the contrary... oh Christ... I might as well jump off a bridge...

btw, there are 7 (i think) communes in the Meuse which retain communal status and have an appointed administration, but they are uninhabited as they are designated as "villages mort pour la France" - they were destroyed in WWI and haven't been rebuilt. All other communes in France have at least one inhabitant.
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« Reply #322 on: April 22, 2012, 08:05:24 PM »

I don't know if people were paying attention to them, but Hollande landslided 4 of the 5 overseas departments.

Which one did Sarkozy win?

Mayotte.

LOL at French comorians being xenophobic toward Comorian comorians.
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« Reply #323 on: April 22, 2012, 08:08:28 PM »

Hong Kong ^^:

Nicolas Sarkozy : 1860 votes - 56,8% François Hollande : 580 votes – 17,7% François Bayrou : 432 votes – 13,2% Eva Joly : 142 votes – 4,3% Jean-Luc Mélenchon : 115 votes – 3,5% Marine Le Pen : 99 votes – 3%
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« Reply #324 on: April 22, 2012, 08:11:26 PM »

I don't know if people were paying attention to them, but Hollande landslided 4 of the 5 overseas departments.

Which one did Sarkozy win?

Mayotte.

LOL at French comorians being xenophobic toward Comorian comorians.

I wonder if someone has a clue about the reason of this vote. Anyways, to develop about xenophobia, Marine Le Pen did 2,77%
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