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« Reply #400 on: April 23, 2012, 07:31:22 PM »

I'm having problems accessing Le Monde on my computer; any useful alternatives?  (Oh, and anything with scaleable maps of communes?)
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« Reply #401 on: April 23, 2012, 08:05:06 PM »

I'm having problems accessing Le Monde on my computer; any useful alternatives?  (Oh, and anything with scaleable maps of communes?)

There is, inevitably, google: http://www.google.com/elections/ed/fr/results

And also the official site here: http://elections.interieur.gouv.fr/PR2012/index.html
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« Reply #402 on: April 23, 2012, 08:09:22 PM »

For this particular purpose, Google doesn't work for me either (unfortunately, I'm not in a position to upgrade to Google Chrome, which may also explain my Le Monde problems).  As for the official site; unfortunately, sans maps, it's a cumbersome devil to navigate...
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« Reply #403 on: April 23, 2012, 08:28:26 PM »

How about this one: http://www.publicsenat.fr/lcp/politique/carte-des-elections-presidentielles
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« Reply #404 on: April 23, 2012, 10:27:53 PM »


That one worked.  (Thanks.)
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« Reply #405 on: April 24, 2012, 05:01:59 AM »

Perhaps most notable- the young are the most conservative generation in France except for those over 60.

Any information on voting by ethnicity and religion?
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« Reply #406 on: April 24, 2012, 01:06:38 PM »

I have to admit i had sh**ting a lot. So, i will not made no one prevision and only bring maps (i have even made a cheminade map^^)

see you tomorrow folks
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« Reply #407 on: April 24, 2012, 04:43:41 PM »

Currently working on some pretty candidate maps. Not sure when they'll be up, mind.
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« Reply #408 on: April 24, 2012, 06:05:45 PM »

Perhaps most notable- the young are the most conservative generation in France except for those over 60.

Well it's certainly true that they're not as left-leaning as you might expect, but the Others are all important to make that assumption. A say, higher vote for Green/Trotskyists in the young, appear in that graph in such a way as if they were a force of the Right. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it were true - another reason to hate my generation.
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« Reply #409 on: April 24, 2012, 07:19:33 PM »

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« Reply #410 on: April 24, 2012, 08:28:44 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2012, 08:34:13 PM by Leftbehind »

Beautiful. Smiley

I was surprised at how good a job Google were doing at collating and mapping the results, but when colouring the parties shares, you couldn't see the variation above whatsoever for the main two.
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« Reply #411 on: April 25, 2012, 03:56:22 AM »

Thank you Al. If only I hadn't been so busy until yesterday (and so tired since then) I would have done some maps as well.
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« Reply #412 on: April 25, 2012, 07:48:14 AM »

Perhaps most notable- the young are the most conservative generation in France except for those over 60.

Any information on voting by ethnicity and religion?
Also, look at the voting by class. National Front does best among the working class(ouvrier), but steadily declines as you move up the income ladder... until you reach the upperclass(artisan, commercant, chef d'enterprise), where NF registers it's second best performance.

Also notably the upperclass registers 0% support for minor parties. And the fact that Bayrou does badly among them... I'd have thought he's precisely the kind of socially liberal establishmentarian that would appeal to them.
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« Reply #413 on: April 25, 2012, 07:53:34 AM »

New OpinionWay survey for the 2nd round:





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« Reply #414 on: April 25, 2012, 07:56:47 AM »

Still not over for Sarkozy, but it looks bleaker for him every day ... Smiley
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« Reply #415 on: April 25, 2012, 08:28:33 AM »

If anybody is interested, given that I have five days off, I can throw some constituency maps for each candidate together.
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« Reply #416 on: April 25, 2012, 08:57:10 AM »

If anybody is interested, given that I have five days off, I can throw some constituency maps for each candidate together.

You thought we'd say, "No, Hash, don't bother"? Grin

I look forward to it (and I'll have a nice map of my own to post soon...)
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« Reply #417 on: April 25, 2012, 08:58:20 AM »

What's up with Sarkozy doing better among women? Am I the only one that finds that strange, never heard of a country before where the right didn't do better among men and the left better among women? Is it a common thing in France, and in that case are there any know demographic reasons for it?

If anybody is interested, given that I have five days off, I can throw some constituency maps for each candidate together.

Yeah that'd be very itresting to see.
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« Reply #418 on: April 25, 2012, 09:09:31 AM »

never heard of a country before where the right didn't do better among men and the left better among women?

The UK (traditionally).
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« Reply #419 on: April 25, 2012, 09:31:29 AM »

What's up with Sarkozy doing better among women? Am I the only one that finds that strange, never heard of a country before where the right didn't do better among men and the left better among women? Is it a common thing in France, and in that case are there any know demographic reasons for it?

In France, there hasn't been a significant difference since the 1980s (before, the right was stronger among women). The only notable difference is that extremist parties are weaker among women.
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« Reply #420 on: April 25, 2012, 09:47:16 AM »

If anybody is interested, given that I have five days off, I can throw some constituency maps for each candidate together.

Oh yeah !

And please free the Official Thread now Wink
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« Reply #421 on: April 25, 2012, 09:53:46 AM »

never heard of a country before where the right didn't do better among men and the left better among women?

The UK (traditionally).

Took the words right out my mouth! I'm sure there are other examples as well.
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« Reply #422 on: April 25, 2012, 11:28:43 AM »

Im sure Royal did better among women, no?
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« Reply #423 on: April 25, 2012, 11:36:44 AM »

I thought the rule of thumb was that in historically Catholic countries right leaning parties did better with women than men.  IIRC the left was against women's suffrage in France the right for it in the years before its final adoption.
     One stat among the vote intentions of the losing candidates says it all.  Melenchons voters are going 91 to 2 for Hollande, only 7% abstentions.  That kind of near unanimous left wing unity can't be good for Sarko.
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« Reply #424 on: April 25, 2012, 11:39:06 AM »

Im sure Royal did better among women, no?

Yepp:

http://www.ipsos.fr/ipsos-public-affairs/sondages/2nd-tour-presidentielle-2007-comprendre-vote-francais#2
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