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« Reply #450 on: April 26, 2012, 02:58:05 am »
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Ok, I'm also intrigued now, since I, too, always assumed that women vote more left in all Western countries. Why is this not the case in the UK and France?

I have a vague feeling that working class women may be more socially conservative in some contexts but that seems like an unlikely explanation here.
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« Reply #451 on: April 26, 2012, 03:44:15 am »
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Ok, I'm also intrigued now, since I, too, always assumed that women vote more left in all Western countries. Why is this not the case in the UK and France?

I have a vague feeling that working class women may be more socially conservative in some contexts but that seems like an unlikely explanation here.

Is there a strong divide in Sweden as well ?
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« Reply #452 on: April 26, 2012, 05:01:59 am »
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Ok, I'm also intrigued now, since I, too, always assumed that women vote more left in all Western countries. Why is this not the case in the UK and France?

I have a vague feeling that working class women may be more socially conservative in some contexts but that seems like an unlikely explanation here.

Is there a strong divide in Sweden as well ?

It's not nearly as strong as the US one, though it's clearly there.

The 2010 the devide looked like this: (according to exit polls) 

Red-Greens: 44% (all) - 48% (women) - 41% (men)
Alliance: 49% (all) - 46% (women) - 52% (men)

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« Reply #453 on: April 26, 2012, 09:18:22 am »
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Women are more likely to want to stick with the status quo, men are more likely to want to change it.  In most Western countries the "anti-status quo" parties are the rightist ones, but in France and to a lesser extent the UK they're the leftist ones.
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« Reply #454 on: April 26, 2012, 09:26:43 am »
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Its hard to see how the Cameron government in the UK represents any sort of "status quo" with their draconian cuts to public services and tax cuts for the rich etc...When you look at who is most negatively impacted their policies - the Tories in the UK deserve to polling about 20 points lower among woman than among man!
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« Reply #455 on: April 26, 2012, 11:53:21 am »
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There's something really quite old school about the Midi focus of Mélenchon's support, isn't there? Even if not exactly in terms of details.
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« Reply #456 on: April 26, 2012, 11:54:12 am »
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Sarko gets the VGE endorsement for what it's worth (I'm guessing not much?)

http://www.leparisien.fr/election-presidentielle-2012/valery-giscard-d-estaing-pourquoi-je-voterai-sarkozy-26-04-2012-1972652.php
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« Reply #457 on: April 26, 2012, 11:56:49 am »
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I wonder how many French will think "wait, he's still alive ?" when hearing about this. Wink
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« Reply #458 on: April 26, 2012, 12:10:30 pm »
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Here's expats results by country,sub-area,bureau de vote

http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/IMG/pdf/Resultats_provisoires_des_votes_des_Francais_etablis_hors_de_France_au_1er_tour_de_l_election_presidentielle_cle83f26f.pdf

There are also totals by new parliamentary constituencies
http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/les-francais-a-l-etranger/elections-2012-votez-a-l-etranger/election-presidentielle/article/resultats-provisoires-des-votes
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« Reply #459 on: April 26, 2012, 12:39:51 pm »
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I do so love the utterly predictable geographical patterns wrt French voters on the north bank of the Mor Breizh.

Also: does anyone have a link to constituency results for the mainland?
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« Reply #460 on: April 26, 2012, 12:54:17 pm »
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Sarkozy is probably toast:

With 10 days to go, Hollande leads 55-45.

http://www.tns-sofres.com/_assets/files/2012.04.26-iv12.pdf
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« Reply #461 on: April 26, 2012, 02:07:58 pm »
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Canada Smiley Surprised how right-wing the rest of the voters are though.
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« Reply #462 on: April 26, 2012, 02:24:31 pm »
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Le Front national est un parti autorisé à se présenter et qui conteste un certain nombre de valeurs de la République

Quote from Francois. Please tell me i'm understanding that wrong...
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« Reply #463 on: April 26, 2012, 02:29:16 pm »
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Liverpool, UK 181-89 to Hollande. Cheesy
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« Reply #464 on: April 26, 2012, 03:01:30 pm »
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Interesting that Sarkozy got over 80% of the vote from French citizens living in Monaco!
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« Reply #465 on: April 26, 2012, 03:03:09 pm »
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Le Front national est un parti autorisé à se présenter et qui conteste un certain nombre de valeurs de la République

Quote from Francois. Please tell me i'm understanding that wrong...

I would like to know how you understand it, because it doesn't seem all that controversial a quote to me.
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« Reply #466 on: April 26, 2012, 03:05:50 pm »
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Le Front national est un parti autorisé à se présenter et qui conteste un certain nombre de valeurs de la République

Quote from Francois. Please tell me i'm understanding that wrong...

I would like to know how you understand it, because it doesn't seem all that controversial a quote to me.

The FN is a party which has the right to present itself and which contests some Republican values.

Sounds like praise to me... if i've understood.
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« Reply #467 on: April 26, 2012, 03:09:21 pm »
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I'm feeling like putting my neck out in an area where there are numerous native speakers of French around: 'Contester' here means something like: 'to attack, to bring into question'.
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« Reply #468 on: April 26, 2012, 03:31:33 pm »
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I don't see any problem.
The FN is a legal party. TRUE
The FN is not in agreement with some republican values. Debatable, but from the mainstream view, TRUE.
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« Reply #469 on: April 26, 2012, 04:40:27 pm »
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Canada Smiley Surprised how right-wing the rest of the voters are though.

The reason why Canada votes different become ridiculously obvious when you look at the breakdown...

P.S: Does anyone have a blank map of the world? I'd like to do a map of this.

Perhaps most curious spot: Panzergirl won the all-important country of South Sudan with a whopping 4 votes. I wonder what those voters are like...
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« Reply #470 on: April 26, 2012, 04:51:53 pm »
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Canada Smiley Surprised how right-wing the rest of the voters are though.

The reason why Canada votes different become ridiculously obvious when you look at the breakdown...

P.S: Does anyone have a blank map of the world? I'd like to do a map of this.

Perhaps most curious spot: Panzergirl won the all-important country of South Sudan with a whopping 4 votes. I wonder what those voters are like...

It's still nice to know that there is a significant left-leaning area in North America.
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« Reply #471 on: April 26, 2012, 04:53:17 pm »
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What? These are French nationals voting.
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« Reply #472 on: April 26, 2012, 04:53:30 pm »
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Canada Smiley Surprised how right-wing the rest of the voters are though.

The reason why Canada votes different become ridiculously obvious when you look at the breakdown...

P.S: Does anyone have a blank map of the world? I'd like to do a map of this.

Perhaps most curious spot: Panzergirl won the all-important country of South Sudan with a whopping 4 votes. I wonder what those voters are like...

It's still nice to know that there is a significant left-leaning area in North America.

It nicely fits into the cliches I've heard about french voters in English speaking countries...
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« Reply #473 on: April 26, 2012, 04:55:22 pm »
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Hmm I only know two brothers who's parents are french. The younger brother hates Left-wingers, the older one voted Nader iirc.
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« Reply #474 on: April 26, 2012, 05:17:48 pm »
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Just looking through posts from around this time last year. Some of our predictions about Candidate Hollande and the election in general are hilarious.
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