France 2012: Official Results Thread

[Andrea]

52.67% for Hollande in Sarthe.
He takes La Reunion with 71%
53.8% for Sarko in Meause

[Oakvale]

Sarkozy will be re-ele--- uh, never mind.

[Torie]

Does it really matter who runs France?  I mean, isn't the international economic/debt leash on it so tight now, that the government's only big decision is what color of pencils to use?  Just asking.

Nah. France (and Sarko) is fairly big, it'll shake the tiny pro-total-deluge bureaucratic minority that currently runs things. Though only, of course, up to a point - PS being a centrist social democratic party. This might prevent your type from self-destructing, but it won't shake your grip on power.

So if Hollande messes up what are the chances we see Sarkozy again in 2017? Or does that not happen in France?

Happens in France, but won't to that thing. Trust me on that. A Sarkozy that's proven his beatability might as well never have been born in terms of future electability. Not that that ends his type of politics, of course. Not in the slightest.

Sarkozy is joining Giscard club.

Alas, poor Valery

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Pro total deluge eh?  You mean you think Sarko has policies that will lead to another sans culotte takeover or something, causing a "destruction" of the bourgeoisie? Or is it something more subtle. Or is it just rhetoric.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah, we won. That's great. But still pathetically close. This is unfair, so unfair.

[Torie]

52.67% for Hollande in Sarthe.
He takes La Reunion with 71%
53.8% for Sarko in Meause

Do all of these little provincial numbers fit the pattern as it were?  Numbers without patterns are like shoes without socks.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Hollande was elected.

Finally, Phil made a good post in this thread

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Totally empty speech of Sarkozy, ah but well...'il nous aime!'...

France doesn't have much more running room these days. Anyway, I remember when Mitterrand first won, and had to chuck most of his program pretty quickly, when the Franc started collapsing. The US gets away with more because of its reserve currency status.

France is kinda 'the half' of the 1st World economic area, EU, of which the 1st power, Germany, trade is very dependent, the 2nd diplomatic power in the world in term of embassies, and the third military industry in the world too, while it's not the beginning and the end of everything, for the power that is still left the govts nowadays, I guess it matters a bit still...

That being said, yes, as long as Germany doesn't move, nothing will improve a lot. The coming days in Europe will be interesting to monitor...

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

52.67% for Hollande in Sarthe.
He takes La Reunion with 71%
53.8% for Sarko in Meause

Do all of these little provincial numbers fit the pattern as it were?  Numbers without patterns are like shoes without socks.

lol, someone needs something to bite.

[minionofmidas]

Does it really matter who runs France?  I mean, isn't the international economic/debt leash on it so tight now, that the government's only big decision is what color of pencils to use?  Just asking.

Nah. France (and Sarko) is fairly big, it'll shake the tiny pro-total-deluge bureaucratic minority that currently runs things. Though only, of course, up to a point - PS being a centrist social democratic party. This might prevent your type from self-destructing, but it won't shake your grip on power.

So if Hollande messes up what are the chances we see Sarkozy again in 2017? Or does that not happen in France?

Happens in France, but won't to that thing. Trust me on that. A Sarkozy that's proven his beatability might as well never have been born in terms of future electability. Not that that ends his type of politics, of course. Not in the slightest.

Sarkozy is joining Giscard club.

Alas, poor Valery

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Pro total deluge eh?  You mean you think Sarko has policies that will lead to another sans culotte takeover or something, causing a "destruction" of the bourgeoisie? Or is it something more subtle. Or is it just rhetoric.

Nah, just to a self-inflicted economic meltdown of the Eurozone (read all its weaker particles, but if all of them go, then where does that leave the French and German "real" economy? Yeah right.) But it's partly rhetoric, and also partly the booze talking. I warned you all that I'd be quite drunk by the time I'd be back from Karlsruhe.

[Tender Branson]

 

FAIL !

[Franzl]

Yeah, we won. That's great. But still pathetically close. This is unfair, so unfair.

Be happy with what you get!

You won. Your guy gets to run things.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Yeah, we won. That's great. But still pathetically close. This is unfair, so unfair.

You beat an incumbent and are complaining about the margin if victory? Really? If you transplanted the current PV totals into the American electoral college you'd probably get a win in the low 300s, which while not a landslide, is a strong win. Be happy with your victory.

[Andrea]

52.67% for Hollande in Sarthe.
He takes La Reunion with 71%
53.8% for Sarko in Meause

Do all of these little provincial numbers fit the pattern as it were?  Numbers without patterns are like shoes without socks.

Lozere was 55-45 for Sarko in 2007. Now it's a tie.
Lot had Royal at 56%. Hollande took 61%.
Meuse was won by Sarzo with 56.9% in 2007. Now it's down to 53.8%
Sarthe was 50.5% to 49.5% for Sarkozy. Now it's 52.6% for Hollande

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah, we won. That's great. But still pathetically close. This is unfair, so unfair.

Be happy with what you get!

You won. Your guy gets to run things.

Yeah, I know, I'm naturally pessimistic.

But still, a victory wasn't enough tonight. We needed a great victory. This is a pyrrhic one.

[Insula Dei]

To be fair 48+% for Sarko would just be obscene. Let's hope it's close to IFOP's 47.2%

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

52.67% for Hollande in Sarthe.
He takes La Reunion with 71%
53.8% for Sarko in Meause

Do all of these little provincial numbers fit the pattern as it were?  Numbers without patterns are like shoes without socks.

Hollande should do well in Western/Central France, while Sarkozy should do well in the East.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

You won. Your guy gets to run things.

Nah, they didn't win. Sarkozy lost. That's the problem we are facing.

The only winner of this election didn't succeed to make the 2nd run, this time.

Also, let's wait the big cities and IdF, most of them would help Hollande.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Yeah, we won. That's great. But still pathetically close. This is unfair, so unfair.

Jesus. F**king, Christ.

The first socialist President elected during your lifetime (since you were obviously way too young to experience 1988) and you're still [inks]

Poison Dwarf is GONE. That's what matter.


Oh, have a fun night

[minionofmidas]

To be fair 48+% for Sarko would just be obscene. Let's hope it's close to IFOP's 47.2%

I agree. 47% is really my personal over-under.

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Yeah, we won. That's great. But still pathetically close. This is unfair, so unfair.

Be happy with what you get!

You won. Your guy gets to run things.

Yeah, I know, I'm naturally pessimistic.

But still, a victory wasn't enough tonight. We needed a great victory. This is a pyrrhic one.

Likely beating Mitterrand's margin is a Pyrrhic victory? Are you serious?

[Andrea]

Cantal
2007 Sarkozy  55.76
2012 Hollande 51.8%

Haute Pyrenees
2007 Royal 57.37
2012 Hollande 62.42%

Eure et Loire
2007 Sarkozy 58.16
2012 Sarkozy 53.47%

Tarn
2007 Royal 50.71%
2012 Hollande 55.55%

Mayenne
2007 Sarkozy 55.45%
2012 Sarkozy 53.07%

Aisne
2007 Sarkozy 53.36$
2012 Hollande 52.4%

[MaxQue]

Hollande won Cantal (!?!) 52-48.
So, a step in the good direction, because the real problem of Europe is Germany and the unelected lobbyists in Brussels imposing neoliberalism on Europe.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

At risk of embarassing myself...

Any live results tracker (like google page?)

[minionofmidas]

Lol, just noticed Hollande cracked 70 on Guadeloupe.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Likely beating Mitterrand's margin is a Pyrrhic victory? Are you serious?

So, even people abroad make the error to compare it to Mitterand's victory...

All those people forcing themselves to try relive 1981 on the Place de la Bastille right now are, well...