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« Reply #850 on: May 07, 2012, 01:27:29 PM »

For completion's sake (even though it hurts...) :



Epic fail is epic.
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« Reply #851 on: May 07, 2012, 01:31:16 PM »


They're not Irish flags, but rather those of Côte d'Ivoire - Francophone Africa will have given some attention to the results.

Ha! Daily Mail columnist and generally terrible person Richard Waghorne (who harkened back to the proud roots of the Mail by endorsing LePen) was whining on Twitter about the "Irish" flags been flown.

Even Italian would've been a better guess.
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« Reply #852 on: May 07, 2012, 01:40:30 PM »


They're not Irish flags, but rather those of Côte d'Ivoire - Francophone Africa will have given some attention to the results.

Ha! Daily Mail columnist and generally terrible person Richard Waghorne (who harkened back to the proud roots of the Mail by endorsing LePen) was whining on Twitter about the "Irish" flags been flown.

Even Italian would've been a better guess.

That's clearly orange, my friend. And from the photo I saw, it looked like there separate green and orange flags were flying (or it was a dark color in the middle and blended in with the shadows).
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« Reply #853 on: May 07, 2012, 01:43:27 PM »

Comparison of the 2nd round victories of French Presidents:

1965: De Gaulle - 55.2%
1969: Pompidou - 57.5%

1974: Giscard - 50.81%
1981: Mitterrand - 51.76%
1988: Mitterrand - 54.02%

1995: Chirac - 52.64%
2002: Chirac - 82.21%
2007: Sarkozy - 53.06%

2012: Hollande - 51.63%

Best result: Chirac 2002
Best result under "normal" circumstances: Pompidou 1969
Worst result: Giscard 1974

And 1st round results:

1965: De Gaulle - 44.64%
1969: Pompidou - 43.9%

1974: Giscard - 32.60% (came in second)
1981: Mitterrand - 25.86% (came in second)
1988: Mitterrand - 34.11%

1995: Chirac - 20.84% (came in second)
2002: Chirac - 19.88%
2007: Sarkozy - 31.18%

2012: Hollande - 28.63%

Best 1st round result: De Gaulle 1965
Worst 1st round result: Chirac 2002
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« Reply #854 on: May 07, 2012, 01:49:00 PM »

Comparison of the 2nd round victories of French Presidents:

1965: De Gaulle - 55.2%
1969: Pompidou - 57.5%

1974: Giscard - 50.81%
1981: Mitterrand - 51.76%
1988: Mitterrand - 54.02%

1995: Chirac - 52.64%
2002: Chirac - 82.21%
2007: Sarkozy - 53.06%

2012: Hollande - 51.63%

Best result: Chirac 2002
Best result under "normal" circumstances: Pompidou 1969
Worst result: Giscard 1974

1969 arguably wasn't "normal". Turnout was dreadful and the runoff opposed two right wingers (the latter explains the former, of course).
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« Reply #855 on: May 07, 2012, 01:55:07 PM »

Ah, I'm dumb, people waving Ivory Coast flags makes much more sense.
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« Reply #856 on: May 07, 2012, 02:04:54 PM »

I believe the anti christ will be a socialist, so for him to control europe, he will need socialist governments in place. I believe that we are seeing bible prophecy fulfilled. These people don't want balanced budgets, they don't want austerity, and many don't want to work, they want a nanny government to take care of them, and this is why the anti christ will be so well received. I can see his campaign slogan now, TRUST ME, I WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU, it will require a little mark though, in your hand or forehead. I believe he will confiscate the wealth of the developed countries, and the wealth left behind by raptured saints. THis will cause commerce to prosper, as the Bible says. Just imagine the stimulus effect this would have. I believe we might already know this man, although I don't have a clue who he is.
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« Reply #857 on: May 07, 2012, 02:20:34 PM »

I believe the anti christ will be a socialist, so for him to control europe, he will need socialist governments in place. I believe that we are seeing bible prophecy fulfilled. These people don't want balanced budgets, they don't want austerity, and many don't want to work, they want a nanny government to take care of them, and this is why the anti christ will be so well received. I can see his campaign slogan now, TRUST ME, I WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU, it will require a little mark though, in your hand or forehead. I believe he will confiscate the wealth of the developed countries, and the wealth left behind by raptured saints. THis will cause commerce to prosper, as the Bible says. Just imagine the stimulus effect this would have. I believe we might already know this man, although I don't have a clue who he is.

... Are you kidding me... i was going to report this, as it is extremely offensive to me as a Socialist/Social democrat but i've decided to let it be as the rediculousness of your comments will cause most of us to just laugh or shake our heads. I am hoping that this was intended to be ironic or sarcastic, but yikes.
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« Reply #858 on: May 07, 2012, 02:22:14 PM »

One of the nicest moments of the election night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z1L7xxmQsU
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« Reply #859 on: May 07, 2012, 02:24:05 PM »

I believe the anti christ will be a socialist, so for him to control europe, he will need socialist governments in place. I believe that we are seeing bible prophecy fulfilled. These people don't want balanced budgets, they don't want austerity, and many don't want to work, they want a nanny government to take care of them, and this is why the anti christ will be so well received. I can see his campaign slogan now, TRUST ME, I WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU, it will require a little mark though, in your hand or forehead. I believe he will confiscate the wealth of the developed countries, and the wealth left behind by raptured saints. THis will cause commerce to prosper, as the Bible says. Just imagine the stimulus effect this would have. I believe we might already know this man, although I don't have a clue who he is.

... Are you kidding me... i was going to report this, as it is extremely offensive to me as a Socialist/Social democrat but i've decided to let it be as the rediculousness of your comments will cause most of us to just laugh or shake our heads. I am hoping that this was intended to be ironic or sarcastic, but yikes.
... didn't we have an anti-christ already? Oh ya wasn't he a Nazi... an extreme right-wing facist capitalist? Tongue
If you can't have an adult conversation without bursting into Falwell then please go, i'm sure their is a religious zealot message board somewhere (do ppl still say message board? lol)

You clearly don't know King.
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« Reply #860 on: May 07, 2012, 02:26:52 PM »

I believe the anti christ will be a socialist, so for him to control europe, he will need socialist governments in place. I believe that we are seeing bible prophecy fulfilled. These people don't want balanced budgets, they don't want austerity, and many don't want to work, they want a nanny government to take care of them, and this is why the anti christ will be so well received. I can see his campaign slogan now, TRUST ME, I WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU, it will require a little mark though, in your hand or forehead. I believe he will confiscate the wealth of the developed countries, and the wealth left behind by raptured saints. THis will cause commerce to prosper, as the Bible says. Just imagine the stimulus effect this would have. I believe we might already know this man, although I don't have a clue who he is.

Okay is this a literal quote from NHMagic? Otherwise you've really got the way of writing/thinking down.
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« Reply #861 on: May 07, 2012, 02:27:14 PM »


ok... i've just realised this now... both Thomas Hollande and Jean Sarkozy (the sons) are both very Hot, very attractive men... gah Smiley

and i guess i am just learning about him, sounds like a fun guy Tongue
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« Reply #862 on: May 07, 2012, 02:42:00 PM »

I believe the anti christ will be a socialist, so for him to control europe, he will need socialist governments in place. I believe that we are seeing bible prophecy fulfilled. These people don't want balanced budgets, they don't want austerity, and many don't want to work, they want a nanny government to take care of them, and this is why the anti christ will be so well received. I can see his campaign slogan now, TRUST ME, I WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU, it will require a little mark though, in your hand or forehead. I believe he will confiscate the wealth of the developed countries, and the wealth left behind by raptured saints. THis will cause commerce to prosper, as the Bible says. Just imagine the stimulus effect this would have. I believe we might already know this man, although I don't have a clue who he is.

... Are you kidding me... i was going to report this, as it is extremely offensive to me as a Socialist/Social democrat but i've decided to let it be as the rediculousness of your comments will cause most of us to just laugh or shake our heads. I am hoping that this was intended to be ironic or sarcastic, but yikes.
... didn't we have an anti-christ already? Oh ya wasn't he a Nazi... an extreme right-wing facist capitalist? Tongue
If you can't have an adult conversation without bursting into Falwell then please go, i'm sure their is a religious zealot message board somewhere (do ppl still say message board? lol)

It was obviously sarcastic. King is a good poster.
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« Reply #863 on: May 07, 2012, 03:00:10 PM »


ok... i've just realised this now... both Thomas Hollande and Jean Sarkozy (the sons) are both very Hot, very attractive men... gah Smiley

and i guess i am just learning about him, sounds like a fun guy Tongue

His mother's looks really.
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« Reply #864 on: May 07, 2012, 03:17:20 PM »


ok... i've just realised this now... both Thomas Hollande and Jean Sarkozy (the sons) are both very Hot, very attractive men... gah Smiley

and i guess i am just learning about him, sounds like a fun guy Tongue

Jean Sarkozy looks like an arrogant stupid young rich asshole (which is what he probably is). Thomas Hollande looks like a naive lefty student. Two living stereotypes.
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« Reply #865 on: May 07, 2012, 03:23:49 PM »


ok... i've just realised this now... both Thomas Hollande and Jean Sarkozy (the sons) are both very Hot, very attractive men... gah Smiley

and i guess i am just learning about him, sounds like a fun guy Tongue

Jean Sarkozy looks like an arrogant stupid young rich asshole (which is what he probably is). Thomas Hollande looks like a naive lefty student. Two living stereotypes.

Definitely their father's sons then.
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« Reply #866 on: May 07, 2012, 03:33:53 PM »

Comparison of the 2nd round victories of French Presidents:

1965: De Gaulle - 55.2%
1969: Pompidou - 57.5%

1974: Giscard - 50.81%
1981: Mitterrand - 51.76%
1988: Mitterrand - 54.02%

1995: Chirac - 52.64%
2002: Chirac - 82.21%
2007: Sarkozy - 53.06%

2012: Hollande - 51.63%

Best result: Chirac 2002
Best result under "normal" circumstances: Pompidou 1969
Worst result: Giscard 1974

1969 arguably wasn't "normal". Turnout was dreadful and the runoff opposed two right wingers (the latter explains the former, of course).

Yes, but Poher was a mainstream anti-gaullist right candidate. Le Pen was not "mainstream" by any standards.
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« Reply #867 on: May 07, 2012, 03:37:19 PM »

Comparison of the 2nd round victories of French Presidents:

1965: De Gaulle - 55.2%
1969: Pompidou - 57.5%

1974: Giscard - 50.81%
1981: Mitterrand - 51.76%
1988: Mitterrand - 54.02%

1995: Chirac - 52.64%
2002: Chirac - 82.21%
2007: Sarkozy - 53.06%

2012: Hollande - 51.63%

Best result: Chirac 2002
Best result under "normal" circumstances: Pompidou 1969
Worst result: Giscard 1974

1969 arguably wasn't "normal". Turnout was dreadful and the runoff opposed two right wingers (the latter explains the former, of course).

Yes, but Poher was a mainstream anti-gaullist right candidate. Le Pen was not "mainstream" by any standards.

Of course. Still I think it's fairer to include only classical left-right confrontations in the "normal" category. Not that it makes the picture any brighter for Hollande. Even more so if you look at the % of registered voters instead of valid votes.
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« Reply #868 on: May 07, 2012, 03:50:56 PM »

I believe the anti christ will be a socialist, so for him to control europe, he will need socialist governments in place. I believe that we are seeing bible prophecy fulfilled. These people don't want balanced budgets, they don't want austerity, and many don't want to work, they want a nanny government to take care of them, and this is why the anti christ will be so well received. I can see his campaign slogan now, TRUST ME, I WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU, it will require a little mark though, in your hand or forehead. I believe he will confiscate the wealth of the developed countries, and the wealth left behind by raptured saints. THis will cause commerce to prosper, as the Bible says. Just imagine the stimulus effect this would have. I believe we might already know this man, although I don't have a clue who he is.

... Are you kidding me... i was going to report this, as it is extremely offensive to me as a Socialist/Social democrat but i've decided to let it be as the rediculousness of your comments will cause most of us to just laugh or shake our heads. I am hoping that this was intended to be ironic or sarcastic, but yikes.
... didn't we have an anti-christ already? Oh ya wasn't he a Nazi... an extreme right-wing facist capitalist? Tongue
If you can't have an adult conversation without bursting into Falwell then please go, i'm sure their is a religious zealot message board somewhere (do ppl still say message board? lol)

You clearly don't know King.

One doesn't need to know him to see the post's wit. The three last sentences should make anyone understand...
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« Reply #869 on: May 07, 2012, 04:35:42 PM »


Yeah, it was a nice moment. But only because it proved that journalists, especially those on France 2, are useless idiots who are entirely and beyond useless. Last night was about as ridiculous as Wolf Blitzer getting high off the Minnesota caucus sites.
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« Reply #870 on: May 07, 2012, 04:36:31 PM »

For completion's sake (even though it hurts...) :



Epic fail is epic.

The polls were really accurate ! My tracker was a good idea Cheesy Tongue
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« Reply #871 on: May 07, 2012, 04:55:21 PM »

What I really wonder is : would Sarkozy have won with one week more ? Or would the voters have settled with this standing ? Just thinking to it makes me shudder.
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« Reply #872 on: May 07, 2012, 04:58:41 PM »

It's better to not wonder about those questions, Antonio.
Stop thinking about it.
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« Reply #873 on: May 07, 2012, 05:09:46 PM »
« Edited: May 07, 2012, 05:11:34 PM by Swedish Cheese »

What I really wonder is : would Sarkozy have won with one week more ? Or would the voters have settled with this standing ? Just thinking to it makes me shudder.

You guys are exagurating it. It always gets closer the closer you get to election day. Had the election been a week from now the campaign would have began a week later and we'd still have the same result.

EDIT: Although it is an intresting trend, if it continues Hollande will be down to single digits by the next election. Tongue
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« Reply #874 on: May 07, 2012, 05:17:32 PM »

Antonio, you have your first Socialist President in a long time. Be happy with the victory and stop depressing me. Tongue
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