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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #875 on:
May 07, 2012, 03:23:49 pm »
Quote from: Enfin ! on May 07, 2012, 03:17:20 pm
Quote from: lilTommy on May 07, 2012, 02:27:14 pm
Quote from: Le changement! C'est maintenant! on May 07, 2012, 02:22:14 pm
One of the nicest moments of the election night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z1L7xxmQsU
ok... i've just realised this now... both Thomas Hollande and Jean Sarkozy (the sons) are both very Hot, very attractive men... gah
and i guess i am just learning about him, sounds like a fun guy
Jean Sarkozy looks like an arrogant stupid young rich asshole (which is what he probably is). Thomas Hollande looks like a naive lefty student. Two living stereotypes.
Definitely their father's sons then.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Quote from: Enfin ! on May 07, 2012, 01:49:00 pm
Quote from: Allez Hollande on May 07, 2012, 01:43:27 pm
Comparison of the 2nd round victories of French Presidents:
1965:
De Gaulle - 55.2%
1969:
Pompidou - 57.5%
1974:
Giscard - 50.81%
1981:
Mitterrand - 51.76%
1988:
Mitterrand - 54.02%
1995:
Chirac - 52.64%
2002:
Chirac - 82.21%
2007:
Sarkozy - 53.06%
2012:
Hollande - 51.63%
Best result: Chirac 2002
Best result under "normal" circumstances: Pompidou 1969
Worst result: Giscard 1974
1969 arguably wasn't "normal". Turnout was dreadful and the runoff opposed two right wingers (the latter explains the former, of course).
Yes, but Poher was a mainstream anti-gaullist right candidate. Le Pen was not "mainstream" by any standards.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #877 on:
May 07, 2012, 03:37:19 pm »
Quote from: Allez Hollande on May 07, 2012, 03:33:53 pm
Quote from: Enfin ! on May 07, 2012, 01:49:00 pm
Quote from: Allez Hollande on May 07, 2012, 01:43:27 pm
Comparison of the 2nd round victories of French Presidents:
1965:
De Gaulle - 55.2%
1969:
Pompidou - 57.5%
1974:
Giscard - 50.81%
1981:
Mitterrand - 51.76%
1988:
Mitterrand - 54.02%
1995:
Chirac - 52.64%
2002:
Chirac - 82.21%
2007:
Sarkozy - 53.06%
2012:
Hollande - 51.63%
Best result: Chirac 2002
Best result under "normal" circumstances: Pompidou 1969
Worst result: Giscard 1974
1969 arguably wasn't "normal". Turnout was dreadful and the runoff opposed two right wingers (the latter explains the former, of course).
Yes, but Poher was a mainstream anti-gaullist right candidate. Le Pen was not "mainstream" by any standards.
Of course. Still I think it's fairer to include only classical left-right confrontations in the "normal" category. Not that it makes the picture any brighter for Hollande. Even more so if you look at the % of registered voters instead of valid votes.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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May 07, 2012, 03:50:56 pm »
Quote from: Franzl on May 07, 2012, 02:24:05 pm
Quote from: lilTommy on May 07, 2012, 02:20:34 pm
Quote from: King on May 07, 2012, 02:04:54 pm
I believe the anti christ will be a socialist, so for him to control europe, he will need socialist governments in place. I believe that we are seeing bible prophecy fulfilled. These people don't want balanced budgets, they don't want austerity, and many don't want to work, they want a nanny government to take care of them, and this is why the anti christ will be so well received. I can see his campaign slogan now, TRUST ME, I WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU, it will require a little mark though, in your hand or forehead. I believe he will confiscate the wealth of the developed countries, and the wealth left behind by raptured saints. THis will cause commerce to prosper, as the Bible says. Just imagine the stimulus effect this would have. I believe we might already know this man, although I don't have a clue who he is.
... Are you kidding me... i was going to report this, as it is extremely offensive to me as a Socialist/Social democrat but i've decided to let it be as the rediculousness of your comments will cause most of us to just laugh or shake our heads. I am hoping that this was intended to be ironic or sarcastic, but yikes.
... didn't we have an anti-christ already? Oh ya wasn't he a Nazi... an extreme right-wing facist capitalist?
If you can't have an adult conversation without bursting into Falwell then please go, i'm sure their is a religious zealot message board somewhere (do ppl still say message board? lol)
You clearly don't know King.
One doesn't need to know him to see the post's wit. The three last sentences should make anyone understand...
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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May 07, 2012, 04:35:42 pm »
Quote from: Le changement! C'est maintenant! on May 07, 2012, 02:22:14 pm
One of the nicest moments of the election night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z1L7xxmQsU
Yeah, it was a nice moment. But only because it proved that journalists, especially those on France 2, are useless idiots who are entirely and beyond useless. Last night was about as ridiculous as Wolf Blitzer getting high off the Minnesota caucus sites.
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20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #880 on:
May 07, 2012, 04:36:31 pm »
Quote from: Enfin ! on May 07, 2012, 01:27:29 pm
For completion's sake (even though it hurts...) :
Epic fail is epic.
The polls were really accurate ! My tracker was a good idea
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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May 07, 2012, 04:55:21 pm »
What I really wonder is : would Sarkozy have won with one week more ? Or would the voters have settled with this standing ? Just thinking to it makes me shudder.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #882 on:
May 07, 2012, 04:58:41 pm »
It's better to not wonder about those questions, Antonio.
Stop thinking about it.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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May 07, 2012, 05:09:46 pm »
Quote from: Enfin ! on May 07, 2012, 04:55:21 pm
What I really wonder is : would Sarkozy have won with one week more ? Or would the voters have settled with this standing ? Just thinking to it makes me shudder.
You guys are exagurating it. It always gets closer the closer you get to election day. Had the election been a week from now the campaign would have began a week later and we'd still have the same result.
EDIT: Although it is an intresting trend, if it continues Hollande will be down to single digits by the next election.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #884 on:
May 07, 2012, 05:17:32 pm »
Antonio, you have your first Socialist President in a long time. Be happy with the victory and stop depressing me.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #885 on:
May 07, 2012, 05:24:35 pm »
Harold Wilson's first parliamentary majority was four seats.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #886 on:
May 07, 2012, 05:37:31 pm »
One more week and...
Sarkozy would have been re-elected.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #887 on:
May 07, 2012, 10:32:51 pm »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on May 07, 2012, 05:37:31 pm
One more week and...
Sarkozy would have been re-elected.
Please, he lost to a bald socialist by 18 points yesterday.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #888 on:
May 08, 2012, 03:57:18 am »
some maps
evolution fn 1st round 1988-2012
evolution left 2d round, 1974-2012 (quartiles)
evolution left 2d round 1974-2012 (absolute)
eva joly, 1st round (quartiles*)
françois bayrou 1st round (quartiles*)
jean-luc mélenchon 1st round (quartiles*)
marine le pen 1st round (quartiles*)
nicolas sarkozy 1st round (quartiles*)
françois hollande 1st round (quartiles*)
*quartiles, but pondered by national score (upon : trying to have 2 levels of same numbers of communes ; under : trying to have 2 levels of same numbers of communes)
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #889 on:
May 08, 2012, 03:48:58 pm »
Do we have any info on the geographic distribution of blank votes?
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May 08, 2012, 07:01:43 pm »
I'm all in favor of temporary banning Antonio until after legislative election. Otherwise, he'd kill us with his pessimism.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #891 on:
May 08, 2012, 07:10:27 pm »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on May 07, 2012, 05:37:31 pm
One more week and...
Sarkozy would have been re-elected.
One more week and...
Jon Huntsman would have tied with Mitt Romney in the NH primary.
One more week... but it wasn't. This is just silly.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #892 on:
May 08, 2012, 07:11:40 pm »
Quote from: Severe Simfan34 on May 08, 2012, 07:10:27 pm
Quote from: Keystone Phil on May 07, 2012, 05:37:31 pm
One more week and...
Sarkozy would have been re-elected.
One more week and...
Jon Huntsman would have tied with Mitt Romney in the NH primary.
Now that one
is
sad.
(OBAMA/HUNTSMAN 2012!)
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #893 on:
May 09, 2012, 04:31:58 pm »
Well, I noticed something I missed on election night.
Hollande won Basse-Normandie (!), won Calvados quite easily, was very close in Manche and managed to win a circonscription in Orne (!).
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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May 10, 2012, 01:48:15 am »
Manche is especially a very bad result for the right and I don't know really why.
Bad, OK, but that bad...
I don't think the only fact Cazeneuve was one of the four spokesmen is a reason
And on nuclear matters, well, on Flamanville and La Hague, Hollande is almost on line with Sarkozy.
Maybe rural upset translating, here more than anywhere else, by a "revolutionary" vote against the right ?
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #895 on:
May 12, 2012, 05:40:57 pm »
Now this is something i'd love to see on Trafalgar Square. Alas, the British are less fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hGkZcD6oeI
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Reply #896 on:
May 15, 2012, 07:39:54 pm »
My post on the runoff, for the few who care about my long blabber:
http://welections.wordpress.com/2012/05/16/france-2012-runof/
A cantonal map is in the works.
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20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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Quote from: Le changement! C'est maintenant! on May 12, 2012, 05:40:57 pm
Now this is something i'd love to see on Trafalgar Square. Alas, the British are less fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hGkZcD6oeI
I'd say it's because politics means less in the UK and our politicians are as much to blame for that as anyone.
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Re: France 2012: Official Results Thread
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May 16, 2012, 06:27:54 am »
Some map wich divided france between 2 zones : 50% of best results of each candidate (or each family)
PS vs UMP
PS vs FN
PS vs FDG
PS vs MD
UMP vs FN
UMP vs FDG
UMP vs MD
FN vs FDG
FN vs MD
FDG vs MD
PS' France
UMP's France
FN's France
FDG's FRANCE
MODEM's FRANCE
LEFTS's FRANCE (LO+NPA+FDG+EELV+PS)
RIGHTS's FRANCE (UMP+FN+DLR)
FAR-LEFT's FRANCE (NPA+LO+EELV+FDG)
CENTRE-LEFT's FRANCE (PS+MD)
CENTRE-RIGHT's FRANCE (UMP+MD)
CENTRIST's FRANCE (UMP+MD+PS)
ETATIST's FRANCE (FDG+FN+DLR+LO+NPA)
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latest poll numbers?
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