France 2012: Official Results Thread

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wtf corsica

I just thought that!

Same. I was never under the impression that Corsu was a hotbed of French ultra-nationalist sentiment. And what the Hell is with Bilia?

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Lol Pyrénées-Atlantiques, lol Bayrou.

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What's the over-under on Hollande losing a single part of Limousin, Poitou-Charentes, Aquitaine, or Midi-Pyrénées?

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Guys, I've often said that Corsican nationalists can tend to vote for the FN in presidential elections. I've been proven correct again.

I'm interested in why. Is it just that the movement has racist elements/tendencies?

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Corsu seems to have a north-south divide, with any appreciable support for Hollande petering out once you hit the area just north of Bastelica, which along with a few bits of Tyrrhenian coastline is also Panzergirl's main base on the island. Interesting.

(Sorry about this fixation, I have Corsican ancestry.)

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Big block of pink filling in from the Loire to the Spanish border.

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Hollande is massively outperforming Royal in Auvergne and Burgundy especially so far, it looks like.

ETA: He's carried every département in Auvergne, also in Limousin (obviously) and Brittany and on track in Aquitaine and possibly Midi-Pyrénées and Poitou-Charentes.

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What sort of place is Corrèze? It seems really rural, possibly mountainous? Is it considered part of the Massif Central?

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What sort of place is Corrèze? It seems really rural, possibly mountainous? Is it considered part of the Massif Central?

Lived there several years while a child. It's definitely part of Massif Central yes, very green, lot of forests, middle mountains, quite rural, slightly conservative, but still rather open minded, something along the rest of Limousin, might be the most rightist département of this région.

So Hollande's from a sort of low-key rural leftist background, culturally? That sounds nice, actually. Too bad he's going to be inheriting and presiding over an absolute sh**tstorm.

Where is Mélenchon ostensibly from, other than 'Morocco'?

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Interestingly both Chirac and Hollande were from outside of Corrèze, but made their political bases there. Chirac is from Paris, Hollande from Rouen.

Ah. I remember Chirac was also Mayor of Paris for some time. I'm always amazed by how much of what would here be seen as blatant carpetbagging goes on in Europe.

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Interestingly both Chirac and Hollande were from outside of Corrèze, but made their political bases there. Chirac is from Paris, Hollande from Rouen.

Ah. I remember Chirac was also Mayor of Paris for some time. I'm always amazed by how much of what would here be seen as blatant carpetbagging goes on in Europe.

Yep, he was mayor of Paris and deputy from Corrèze at the same time, as I recall.

What.

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What sort of place is Corrèze? It seems really rural, possibly mountainous? Is it considered part of the Massif Central?

Lived there several years while a child. It's definitely part of Massif Central yes, very green, lot of forests, middle mountains, quite rural, slightly conservative, but still rather open minded, something along the rest of Limousin, might be the most rightist département of this région.

So Hollande's from a sort of low-key rural leftist background, culturally? That sounds nice, actually. Too bad he's going to be inheriting and presiding over an absolute sh**tstorm.

lol, no, at all, it's a cute Parisian upper middle class baby.

...Oh joy.

The sheer domination of primate cities is another thing that interests me about Europe. Paris, London, Madrid...New York has nowhere near that much influence within the United States.

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What sort of place is Corrèze? It seems really rural, possibly mountainous? Is it considered part of the Massif Central?

Lived there several years while a child. It's definitely part of Massif Central yes, very green, lot of forests, middle mountains, quite rural, slightly conservative, but still rather open minded, something along the rest of Limousin, might be the most rightist département of this région.

So Hollande's from a sort of low-key rural leftist background, culturally? That sounds nice, actually. Too bad he's going to be inheriting and presiding over an absolute sh**tstorm.

lol, no, at all, it's a cute Parisian upper middle class baby.

...Oh joy.

The sheer domination of primate cities is another thing that interests me about Europe. Paris, London, Madrid...New York has nowhere near that much influence within the United States.

New York has that much influence within its state, doesn't it?

Good point! Perhaps it would within a hypothetical 'Northeast' country of roughly a large Western European country's population.

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The case of Paris is exceptional, I think. Even London doesn't have that degree of...

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Hollande even though he represents a rural area is apparently culturally Parisian. Sarkozy is from some awful Paris suburb. Chirac was Parisian. Was Mitterrand even from anywhere in particular?

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What is it about Morbihan? Even this time it was much narrower than the rest of the Breton départements.

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How is Hollande expected to do in the Big Four cities, relative to how Royal or Jospin used to?

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Hollande 27-25 in Loire, Sarko 37-24 over Panzergirl in Alpes-Maritime (his best result yet?). Provence is a really politically awful place, isn't it?

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It also is significantly less nice than, say, Languedoc-Rousillon on most other terrains.

Just saying in case you'd ever be planning a holiday.

One of these days I'd love to see some soft, peripheral travel movie about some privileged American or Briton finding love and/or his/her dreams at a little cottage on the windswept coast of Brittany or in the forested mountains of Limousin. Now there's some régions of France I can get behind.

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Val d'Oise for Hollande, details at eleven.

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Seriously, screw Provence.

I enjoy the fact that Panzergirl's best result is in Vaucluse, which isn't even the département that she won.

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Is it at all meaningful that Hollande got within five points of Sarko in Hauts-de-Seine?

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Surprised if Sarko won Rhône, but I don't know much about that area. Is Lyon a more rightist city than average?

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I refuse to believe that France will elect Hollande.

...

...I genuinely pity you.

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I've heard it said that Panzergirl's voters are considered most likely to sit out the second round. How much to this is there?

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We may also have to envision what sort of person a French expatriate in Cuba might be.