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« on: April 04, 2012, 10:32:38 PM »
« edited: April 08, 2012, 08:27:31 AM by NHI »

I'm burnt for the moment on my current time of "1976 and on" and will be taking a short on break from it. Below is the start of a potential timeline. Leave your feedback if you think I should continue...

Election 2012 Results:

Obama/Biden v. Palin/Pawlenty
Obama/Biden: 446 (58.1%)
Palin/Pawlenty: 92 (39.9%)

"We now have the task of finishing the change we promised four years ago. Tonight we chose progress over regression. We're going to move on and keep striving that vision of a more perfect union."

Closest States:
Tennessee:
Palin: 49.7%
Obama: 48.0%

Indiana:
Obama: 49.4%
Palin: 49.0%

Kansas:
Palin: 49.8%
Obama: 47.7%

South Carolina:
Obama: 50.0%
Palin: 48.7%

Senate Map: Democrats Retain Control

House: Democrats Narrowly win back the House

"The hearts and minds of the American people are behind. He now has the mandate to get the job done." -- Chris Matthew.
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 10:57:06 PM »

I'd change Maine to Green on your Senate map, but sounds like an interesting start to a timeline that I hope stays in the realm of fiction. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2012, 06:33:43 PM »

O.O youve got some explaining to do
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2012, 04:12:36 PM »

Prologue: Thank you, Iowa.

Sarah Palin's entrance into the Republican Race in mid September brought a sense of needed stability, given the hesitation to Mitt Romney's candidacy. With Palin now affirming herself as The solid Anti-Romney candidate the race began.

Republican Nomination:
Romney: 23%
Palin: 20%
Pawlenty: 14%
Paul: 13%
Cain: 9%
Bachmann: 8%
Gingrich: 6%
Huntsman: 5%

Palin trailed Romney in most polls, but as the race's attention shifted to Iowa where the former Alaska Governor hoped to start with an early win that would derail Romney's campaign.[/i]

Palin Triumphs in Iowa.

Iowa:
Palin: 28%
Romney: 24%
Paul: 17%
Pawlenty: 15%
Bachmann: 8%
Gingrich: 6%
Huntsman: 1%

Though Romney would recover with a win in New Hampshire, Palin would crush him in South Carolina and ultimately in Florida. With Romney damaged beyond repair after his losses to Palin in Minnesota, Colorado and Florida, the former Massachusetts Governor, dubbed "Obama's Republican Twin" by Palin ended his bid and endorsed the presumptive nominee.

Palin v. Obama
Palin: 42%
Obama: 55%

Palin as the Republican Nominee was a dream come true to the Democrats. Though she made an attempt to reach out to independents with Tim Pawlenty, the damage was already done. With a recovering economy by November Obama trounced Palin easily...

Coming Soon: Chapter 1: Yes, We Can

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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2012, 10:22:16 PM »

Okay, I'm looking forward to this!
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2012, 08:18:09 AM »

Obama delivers his second inaugural speech, in it he promised a new era for America had begun.

With the GOP reduced to practically rubble following the election, Pres. Obama and the Democrats were energized. An agenda thwarted by a the 2010 midterms, they were now back on track as Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said, "And there will be no stopping the agenda for America now."

In the days following the inaugural Pres. Obama began outline his vision for the second term. Though The Mandate portion of Obamacare had been deemed unconstitutional the Democrats set out to replace and affirm a law they desperately wanted passed.

"We will have health care coverage in this country. Universal coverage for all." -- Pres. Obama.


Aside from a health care bill that would push for a single payer system, Obama's agenda also included such initiatives as green energy, immigration reform, fixing the tax system, which included raising taxes on the wealthiest of Americans, strengthening social security, as well as tackling the issue of gay marriage.

An ambitious agenda, but with strong majorities and the GOP confined to a smaller minority then in 2008, Obama felt confident going into his second term.

"This is change, and it comes down to whether they're with us or against us." -- Pres. Obama to Chief of Staff Jacob Lew.

On the Republican side of the House, the blame game began following the election. Many put the blame to Sarah Palin, the disastrous candidate. In private conversations Reince Priebus lambasted the former Governor as the biggest failure since Barry Goldwater. "We'll be lucky if we survive these next four years."

With much of the anger projected at Palin, some went to Paul Ryan. Many defeated members of Congress blamed his budget as part of the reason for the defeat in November. Ryan who did manage to survive reelection remained mum on the word, but most speculated that any chance he had as rising star in the party was over.

"Our best hope is someone like Christie or Rubio." -- Reince Priebus.

Sarah Palin however refused to accept blame for the defeat in November and in interviews following the election put the blame on the media as well as the establishment of the Republican Party.

"People are tired of the blue bloods and media elites guiding the American people. The hope is that this election is a wakeup call." -- Sarah Palin to Barbara Walters.


Yet, the Republican Party took no time in publicly blasting Sarah Palin as the reason for their party's defeat. In response to her interview with Barbara Walters Reince Priebus on an appearance on Hannity called Palin "irrelevant. She does not represent this party now or going forward."

The turmoil in the Republican Party thrilled the Democrats as they watched the sideshow. As the second term got under way Pres. Obama remarked to his closest advisors what they watching was historic.

"If we're lucky this may splinter the GOP people in two." -- Pres. Obama.

"The almost and the crazies." -- David Axelrod.

"The Republican Party is coming undone and America is rejoicing." -- Ed Schultz

"A party that prided itself on taking down Barack Obama for reelection turned into an effort that took down the Republican Party. The GOP is at a standstill right now. With no real leader at the helm, these are dangerous, unstable times for the party, much more so than in 2008. Unless they are careful in tracking back to the center and away from the 'others', then the Republican Party shall go the way of the Whig Party and others that disbanded and collapsed." -- Rachel Maddow

Pres. Obama Approval Rating: Feb. 2013
Approve: 55%
Disapprove: 36%
No Opinion: 9%
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2012, 08:39:22 AM »

Not to be sour but there is no way any presidential candidate in contemporary history can get over 53-54% of the popular vote, unless like something of WMD proportions occured or there was an attack on the nation. Furthermore please explain the south to me. even PALIN could not lose Texas,South Carolina, and Georgia. the others are a implausible but there is a miniscule chance NC and Missouri could fall. so unless there was also a third party candidate (which there soesnt seem to be) then that is just bleh. the senate and house races are something else Republicans are defending 10 seats while the democrats are defending like 20, gains are highly unlikely for democrats. And the House might be tempted to go more dem but not outright control. However aside from that tidbit, please do go on, it seems to be entertaining.
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2012, 09:11:22 AM »

Not to be sour but there is no way any presidential candidate in contemporary history can get over 53-54% of the popular vote, unless like something of WMD proportions occured or there was an attack on the nation. Furthermore please explain the south to me. even PALIN could not lose Texas,South Carolina, and Georgia. the others are a implausible but there is a miniscule chance NC and Missouri could fall. so unless there was also a third party candidate (which there soesnt seem to be) then that is just bleh. the senate and house races are something else Republicans are defending 10 seats while the democrats are defending like 20, gains are highly unlikely for democrats. And the House might be tempted to go more dem but not outright control. However aside from that tidbit, please do go on, it seems to be entertaining.

I agree with your statement entirely, but for entertainment and story purposes it works for the Dems to win by such margins. Stay tuned, everyone should enjoy this one.
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2012, 09:12:20 AM »

NC did fall and Missouri nearly fell to a decent but weak moderate GOP candidate in 2008. There's no question they could go Dem for an incumbent against an extremely weak, radical GOPer.

As for Texas, Montana, SC...it's unlikely, but really, after six straight months of Palin gaffes, who knows?
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2012, 09:41:20 AM »



I agree with your statement entirely, but for entertainment and story purposes it works for the Dems to win by such margins. Stay tuned, everyone should enjoy this one.
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Ah I think I know where youre going with this, Tally-Ho ! good sir.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2012, 07:35:15 AM »

Unemployment stood at 7.7% in February 2013. With his convincing reelection and majorities in both Houses of Congress, the President delivered a speech to a joint session of Congress.


In his speech he outlined his proposal to tackle health care for the second and what he deemed final time.

"We need to put this issue to rest. It's been something we've debated, argued and talked about for decades. We came close the last time, let this be the time we get it right. Now to those in Congress who have differing opinion, I welcome your suggestion, but I will not tolerate roadblocks being put up again and again that prevent us from engaging in policy making. It's not going to happen and the American people are sick of it."

Criticisms came towards the President that his plan was towards a single payer system. The President rejected such criticism and announced a summit at the White House for Democrat and Republican leaders to discuss plans for health care. While similar to the last meeting on health care from the first term, this time President Obama held his own and all but dismissed Republican suggestions at first glance.

"Your plan is everybody fends for themselves and that's not the way to go about it. We can't this mentality of your on your own." -- Pres. Obama to Sen. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Sen. Marco Rubio came out as strong critic of the President's plans, in move that some saw made his a prime candidate for 2016.

"Once again President Obama is shutting out Republican ideas in order to get his agenda through. Well that happened once, we're not going to let it happen again." -- Sen. Marco Rubio.

"I think the Republican Party is so far removed from the truth here that they've almost lost touch with reality. It's hard to see them making any motion towards cooperative efforts with the president, and that in my view is sad." -- David Axelrod on Meet The Press.

As Congress went to work crafting a second health care bill, President Obama shifted his attention towards other matters. In early summer he delivered a speech on energy. In it he declared that America must be free of all foreign oils by the year 2030, and that by the end of his first term there must a serious reduction in the use of products that produce carbon dioxide and other green house gases.

Obama's speech in Kansas.

"Climate change is real and it is up to us as the leader of the free world to see that we set the standard for all the world to follow." -- President Obama.

As summer turned to fall, the health care bill slowly was hammered up. Though Republicans tried to obstruct the bill, their small numbers made it almost impossible. As the first leaves began to fall President Obama made another shift, this time towards the issue of gay marriage. While he would not openly endorse it, he suggested that it was time to begin having a serious debate on the matter in the country. "We're ready as a nation to talk about it."

With Pres. Obama's approval rating in the mid to high fifties he could focus on his agenda with ease. As self-proclaimed socialist Lawrence O'Donnell said, "President Obama has finally found his groove. He's not going to pioneering a new Great Society in the vein of Johnson or FDR's New Deal, but he is representing a greater shift to the left than this country has seen in it's history. Republicans may cringe, but the nation is not and that is where it is truly shocking."

While still years off the media could not help but speculate over the possible candidates for the 2016 nomination. The Republican field seemed to have a large stock of candidates from Bobby Jindal to Chris Christie to Bob McDonnell, Susanna Martinez and Marco Rubio. While on the Democratic side, Joe Biden remained open to the idea of running in '16, and former Sec. of State Hillary Clinton did not close the door either.

After stepping down at Secretary of State, Clinton returned to private life and published a second memoir in late 2013, and then became a lecturer at Columbia University. With the possibility of either Biden or Clinton entering the race, other candidates like Martin O'Malley, Andrew Cuomo and Brian Schweitzer all stood on the side waiting.

Democratic Nomination:
Clinton: 47%
Biden: 21%
Cuomo: 17%
Kaine: 7%
Schweitzer: 5%
O'Malley: 3%

Republican Nomination:
Christie: 29%
Rubio: 28%
McDonnell: 14%
Jindal: 11%
Martinez: 6%
Other: 12%

Clinton v. Christie:
Clinton: 47%
Christie: 43%

Clinton v. Rubio:
Clinton: 49%
Rubio: 44%

Biden v. Christie:
Biden: 46%
Christie: 44%

Biden v. Rubio:
Biden: 48%
Rubio: 44%

As the fall got under way Republican did everything in their power to obstruct the proposed health care bill, now dubbed, "The National Care Act."

"This type of bill will make health care worse, not better." -- Gov. Chris Christie.

Speaker Pelosi briefs the press.

"I think we're all a little tired of the act Republicans have been playing since 2009. They cannot keep being obstructionist. For the proposed bill, the one, the one we're planning to vote on is poised to finally fix the health care system in this country, and fulfill a promise long since stated in our founding documents." -- Speaker Nancy Pelosi.


"We are not opposed to health care reform. We want to work on solutions that are akin to what nation has stood for. That are compatible with free enterprise and do contradict what our founding fathers wrote in the Constitutions. If the speakers fails to understand that then I'm not sure why she's back at her old job." -- John Boehner.

As the debate over health care heated up, the country found itself in a similar position it was when the first law was passed. Tea Party protests were in full force as the single payer health care bill was debated before the Congress. A misstep made by the White House was becoming clear. While they had won an almost historic landslide over Palin, they overestimated the mandate they received.

Just because Pres. Obama had been reelected by a large margin, did not mean the division and polarization went away. Most polls indicated that Americans were even more polarized and divided then before the 2012 election. As the debates heated up, Obama began to look ahead towards 2014, as the thoughts of 2010 replayed in his mind like a broken record.

"This is our one chance. We've got to get it now." -- David Axelrod.

"I know. I just wish they knew." -- Pres. Obama.

"If we back away from this the base of the party will fracture." -- Vice Pres. Joe Biden.

Looking to find an escape door the President took to the road, hoping to do a better job selling health care reform than he did the first time. "It's much easier to grasp. They have to get this one."

Pres. Obama pitches his reform package in Miami, Florida.

But the dissatisfaction with the proposed law only grew. Large protests picketed around places where town halls met. Obama found himself up against a wall again, and while the Republicans were smaller in numbers than in 2009, he worried that the fury from the populace would only incite them even more.

At a town hall in New Hampshire, Obama received a question from a woman who denounced his health care plan and asked him point blank, "Why do you keep shoving socialism down out throats?"

"Ma'am, I'm not shoving anything down your throats. First, that is all the spin masters, the Republicans and people like Karl Rove that are turning everything I do into a socialistic policy. Though I will say if you hate socialism so much, why do you have social security, why do you have medicare. It's the same thing, and I don't hear anybody complaining about it."

Obama's point silenced the heckler, but it did not diminish the anger over the new proposed law. "Stop the Socialist Agenda!" "Health Care Reform Now!" "Single Payer System, Single Payer Destruction!" "Health Reform Now!"

A protest from Ohio.

Obama Approval Rating:
Approve: 50%
Disapprove: 43%
No opinion: 7%

"His negatives keep going up and up. This guy is by far the worst President in our lifetimes and I predict 2014 will be a bigger victory for the GOP than in 2010, and 2016 will be a landslide defeat for the Democrats, worthy of Walter Mondale in 1984." -- Sean Hannity.

Frustrated at the current state, Obama urged for Pelosi and Ried to pass the bill and to send it to his desk promptly.

"I'm done with this. I'm President, I make the decisions." -- Pres. Obama to David Axelrod.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2012, 06:05:01 PM »

Let's hope Obama succeeds successfully!
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2012, 09:19:20 AM »

In December of 2013 after months of debate, the House and Senate passed The National Care Act. Not a single Republican in either the House or the Senate voted for the Bill. It reached President Obama's desk before Christmas and he signed it into law, trumpeting, "This time we've got it done."


With the bill signed into law, the Republicans did not relent on their opposition to it, and the Tea Party protests continued to grow. The President largely ignored the outcries and focused on the next part of his agenda. Implementing The Buffett Rule.[/i]

"We've had this debate about fairness for too long. It's time to implement it. The Buffett Rules ensures that every American has a shot at the American dream, not just those at the very top. I mean even Republican Patron Saint Ronald Reagan praised an idea of this kind during his tenure. It's simple. It  works and it's fair."

With the National Care Act passed, the Republicans, looking to 2014 hoped to capitalize on the Buffett Rule and use it for a political victory, but it wasn't easy. Though the American people were largely polarized, many still shifted blame to the Republicans for being obstructionists, and stuck in the past. The Republican internally acknowledge this problem and though behind closed door many in the establishment began downplaying expectations for 2014.

In a private discussion with party leaders in Washington and around the country, Chair Priebus expressed his concerns for the party going forward.

"We're moving towards oblivion here. The American people rejected us in 2012, and we're not likely to do well in 2014. We have to rebrand, we can't just be the opposition to the President. It worked in 2010, it's not going to work again." -- Reince Priebus.

"I'm going to be blunt with you, we've got to somehow stifle the tea party, they're the wrench in the gear that's going to prevent us from winning back the White House." -- Chris Christie.

"The Tea Party is responsible for our victory in 2010, we can't just turn away from them entirely" -- Marco Rubio.

"We can choose not to, or we can face political suicide." -- Chris Christie.

In November 2013 Bill Bolling succeeded Bob McDonnell as Governor of Virginia, keeping one victory for the party that night, but New Jersey returned to the Democrats. Corey Booker former Mayor of Bogota Steve Lonegan in a decisive election of: 55% - 37%. Chris Christie chose not to seek reelection.

As 2014 got under The President continued with his agenda, while the Republicans looked to lower their sites and instead focus on winning back the White House in 2016.

"We'll have marginal wins in 2014, the real prize in '16." -- Reince Priebus.

Republican Nomination: Poll
Christie: 26%
Rubio: 26%
McDonnell: 15%
Jindal: 13%
Other: 20%

Democratic Nomination: Poll
Clinton: 51%
Biden: 18%
Cuomo: 15%
Kaine: 6%
Schweitzer: 5%
O'Malley: 3%
Other: 2%

Clinton v. Christie:
Clinton: 50%
Christie: 44%

Clinton v. Rubio:
Clinton: 51%
Rubio: 44%

Biden v. Christie:
Biden: 45%
Christie: 44%

Biden v. Rubio:
Biden: 46%
Rubio: 44%

Obama Approval Rating:
Approve: 50%
Disapprove: 44%
No Opinion: 6%

Support for The National Care Act:
Yes: 47%
No: 43%
No Opinion: 10%
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2012, 11:36:15 PM »

If 60% of people were against obamacare right before its passage in 09, why would 47% of people be for an even bigger overhaul?  Other than that it's interesting, but I feel like I need to shower off the nastiness of it all.  Would not want to live here but it's an interesting read.
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2012, 07:59:44 AM »
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If 60% of people were against obamacare right before its passage in 09, why would 47% of people be for an even bigger overhaul?  Other than that it's interesting, but I feel like I need to shower off the nastiness of it all.  Would not want to live here but it's an interesting read.
Well, most people would have supported the public option. It's the individual mandate to which they were opposed IIRC.
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2012, 09:20:36 AM »

2014 continued to be a rocky year politically for both Democrats and Republicans. The President had his new health care law, but support for it remain divided as Republicans continued to demagogue the issue. With it passed the President looked to pass other measures, such as an implementation of the Buffett Rule.


"It's time to reform the tax system in this country and by doing so we all have to pay our fair share, and this isn't class warfare, it's not socialism, it is what's right. It's what's American, and its's what we're going to do."

"I think the President lives in a fantasy world, one in which he's trying to bring on all Americans." -- Sen. Rand Paul.

"I suppose punishing success is American according to Barack Obama, but it's not American by our traditional standards of success and opportunity in this country." -- Chris Christie.

Chris Christie continued to be a loud voice on the political sidelines, calling out the president at almost every turn and prompting speculation that he was going to seek the Republican nomination for President. Also at the same time buzz began to build regarding Hillary Clinton's prospective run. With her memoir, "This Journey of Mine" already a best seller Clinton continued to avoid the question, only saying, "I'm not saying yes and I'm not saying no."

In late spring amid the uncertainty of the midterm elections the Democratic Senate and House passed a version of Obama's Buffett Rule, which raised the tax rate for millionaires and above to 31%. The passage of the bill saw an outcry from Republicans who vowed to make it a singular issue in the campaign.

As the campaign got under way the President slowly shifted his focus towards the issue of gay marriage and it's place on the national debate. Having avoided the issue during his first term Obama looked to seize the moment where he had control of both Houses.

In a private session with Pelosi and Reid Obama announced to them his decision to embrace gay marriage entirely following the midterm elections.

"If we say anything now, we'll just hurt ourselves at the polls. We'll have leeway after November and besides I'm not up for reelection again, so by that point either Joe or Hillary or whoever can deal with the aftermath." -- Pres. Obama.

Obama Approval Rating:
Approve: 48%
Disapprove: 45%
No Opinion: 7%

The Midterm Elections did not prove to be startling for either side. The Democrats lost a few seats, and the Republicans picked a few up, but not enough to swing majorities in either House. One of the shocking upsets was the defeat of NH Senator Jeanne Shaheen who was narrowly beaten by businessman Bill Binnie. 49.7% - 49.6%, and in the state of Massachusetts where former Senator Scott Brown beat out Attorney General Martha Coakley, once again to become Governor of the state.

Massachusetts Gubernatorial:
Brown: 50.0%
Coakley: 48.9%

As the lame duck session go underway the President prepared his policy push on gay marriage, which he expected would cause a firestorm.[/i]

"We have to realize that we are as a nation have progressed so far, and that by now it is time for us to embrace equality for every Americans. That is why today I am announcing my support for marriage equality in the United States of America."

"The real Obama has revealed himself, which I knew would happen in the second term. The tax issue, the health care issue, the marriage issue, cap and trade. His leftist vision is coming true and no one on the right is even opposing him. It's time to stand up and stop this madman before we become a socialistic, utopian society." -- Rush Limbaugh.

The marriage equality speech caused quite a firestorm across the country, but Congress started to take up a proposed measure that would redefine America in the United States. An embracement of civil unions would be a start.

Privately Pres. Obama saw what he was doing for the gay community like what Lyndon Johnson did for the black community. He knew it had to happen and he wasn't going to prevent the change from occurring.

As 2015 got under way the race to succeed Pres. Obama started to emerge. Republican candidates slowly began cropping, at first mostly second tier candidates: Gov. Susanna Martinez, Sen. Rand Paul, Sen. John Thune, and Gov. Brian Sandoval. It was not until the spring that real big guns emerged. Chris Christie, Bob McDonnell, and Bobby Jindal.Marco Rubio, the GOP's rising star had yet to announce his decision, which prompted speculation that he would not be running in 2016.

In late spring Marco Rubio announced the decision many had been waiting six years to hear, "I am a candidate for President in 2016.


With a formidable field established Rubio and Christie rose to the top of the ranks, with McDonnell, and Jindal fighting for third. The other candidates like Thune and Paul struggle to raise their profile, as did Sandoval, though many considered him to be a dark horse candidate. However due to his stance on abortion many feared his candidacy was a lost caused.

"This guy be'd great for the general, but he won't get there, because of the nomination process." -- Chris Matthews.

A surprise entry into the GOP field was former Senator and incumbent Governor of Massachusetts Scott Brown. Brown's name recognition prompted him to the top tier, though many speculated he would not survive the nomination fight.

"At this point the nomination either goes to Christie or Rubio. Now if either of them fumbles then it's anybody's game." -- Karl Rove.

Brown enters the large field of candidates.

"Christie reminds me of Romney, he's a frontrunner, but a fragile one at best." -- Laura Ingram.

Republican Nomination:
Christie: 21%
Rubio: 19%
Brown: 17%
Jindal: 12%
McDonnell: 10%
Martinez: 7%
Thune: 5%
Sandoval: 4%
Paul: 4%

This race right now is between Christie, Brown and Rubio. All three are big names, have a major following and would be excellent candidates for the nomination and the general election." -- Mitt Romney.

"All three would make terrific Presidents, and it's of those three who we're going to choose from. Everyone else is insignificant." -- Donald Trump.

On the Democratic side the party seemed to unite behind one candidate: Hillary Clinton. The former First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State announced her candidacy to great fanfare in New York, and instantly became the presumptive nominee, despite the entrance of Russ Feingold, Tim Kaine, Elizabeth Warren, Brian Schweitzer and Bernie Sanders into the race.

Clinton announces her campaign for President.

Vice President Joe Biden who many believed was planning a run for President seemed to be getting the short end of the stick. Having served as Vice President for eight years and loyally stood by the side of the President, Biden perhaps rightfully so felt he had earned the top spot on the ticket, but with Clinton's entrance all the oxygen was sucked out of the room.

"All the lights are shinning on Mrs. Clinton, no one else can hold a candle to her." -- Paul Begala.

In a hypothetical poll between Biden and Clinton, she cleaned his clock royally, leading with 59%, compared to his 33%. Biden ultimately announced that he would not be a candidate in 2016 and proudly endorsed his friend Hillary Clinton, who he called, "The Best of any non-incumbent to be President of the United States, and for our party to win she must be our nominee!"

Following Biden's endorsement, prominent Democrats such as Andrew Cuomo, Claire McCaskill, and Russ Feingold who ended his campaign and endorsed Clinton.

Democratic Nomination:
Clinton: 53%
Kaine: 16%
Warren: 14%
Schweitzer: 10%
Sanders: 7%

Clinton v. Christie:
Clinton: 47%
Christie: 44%

Clinton v. Rubio:
Clinton: 48%%
Rubio: 43%

Clinton v. Brown:
Clinton: 46%
Brown: 44%

Iowa Poll: Republicans:
Christie: 20%
Rubio: 20%
Jindal: 17%
McDonnell: 14%
Brown: 12%
Martinez: 7%
Paul: 6%
Sandoval: 3%

New Hampshire Poll: Republicans:
Christie: 24%
Brown: 21%
Rubio: 16%
McDonnell: 10%
Jindal: 10%
Paul: 9%
Sandoval: 7%
Martinez: 2%

The GOP race would eventually lose Thune who endorsed Christie upon exiting. By the fall, Christie, Rubio and Brown continued to lead in polls and in fundraising.

Endorsements: Christie:
Sen. John Thune, SD
Gov. Mitch Daniels, IN
Rep. Paul Ryan, WI
Sen. Kelly Ayotte, NH
Donald Trump, NY
Sen. Mark Kirk, IL
Rep. Charlie Bass, NH
Sen. Rob Johnson, WI

Endorsements: Rubio:
Sen. Jim DeMint, SC
Gov. Ovide Lamontange, SC
Gov. Nikki Haley, SC
Gov. Rick Perry, TX
Rep. Allen West, FL
Sen. Mike Lee, UT
Newt Gingrich, VA

Endorsements: Brown:
Sen. Bill Binnie, NH
Sen. Rob Portman, OH
Gov. Jon Huntsman, UT
Rudy Giuliani, NY
Gov. Tim Pawlenty, MN
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2012, 05:14:57 PM »

If 60% of people were against obamacare right before its passage in 09, why would 47% of people be for an even bigger overhaul?  Other than that it's interesting, but I feel like I need to shower off the nastiness of it all.  Would not want to live here but it's an interesting read.
Well, most people would have supported the public option. It's the individual mandate to which they were opposed IIRC.

Yes, but this is both.  Stacked on top of each other.  This is like coming over to my house and putting in infinite health and infinite ammo cheats in battlefront.
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