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Question: Which would you vote for?
Ronald Reagan (R)   -16 (41%)
John F Kennedy (D)   -23 (59%)
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« on: April 22, 2012, 12:04:07 am »
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Who would you vote for between Ronald Reagan and John F Kennedy in a general election?
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2012, 07:13:28 am »
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Ronald Reagan.
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 07:46:14 am »
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Kennedy wins unless the Reagan camp plays his affairs the right way. However, they're common knowledge so it wouldn't really shock anyone.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2012, 11:45:13 am »
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This would be a hard one for me. It'll depend on which running mate I loathe less.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 12:23:51 pm »
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Coin toss.

Both men were exceedingly horrible in their own little ways.  Namely, both seemed to suscribe to the school of "governance by rhetoric" rather than any sort of concrete ideology.  Reagan was made of Teflon, Kennedy was made of paper mache.  Pretty words, but no substance.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 01:38:02 pm »
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I think Kennedy like Roosevelt challenged people to use their own free will to do for their country "Ask not what your country can do for you, what you can do for country," whereas the GOP like Reagan try to use the iron fist, show people how it is done so they can take action, like telling the USSR to" tear down their wall." Reagan takes NH, Kennedy takes OH.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2012, 07:08:18 pm »
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Reagan: 276
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2012, 08:17:55 pm »
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I figure Kennedy does good in the North-East but Reagan in the Mid-West.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2012, 04:53:55 pm »
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Dont hate, but I prefer JFK's influence on the Democratic Party to Reagan's on the GOP, if only because Johnny was the last small-government Democrat in the Oval.

And cue the trolls.  [cracks knuckles].  I'm ready.  Gimme all you got!
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2012, 05:01:18 pm »
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Dont hate, but I prefer JFK's influence on the Democratic Party to Reagan's on the GOP, if only because Johnny was the last small-government Democrat in the Oval.

And cue the trolls.  [cracks knuckles].  I'm ready.  Gimme all you got!

Not going to hate, but I wouldn't really call the President who advocated the "New Frontier" to be small government.
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2012, 05:10:50 pm »
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Dont hate, but I prefer JFK's influence on the Democratic Party to Reagan's on the GOP, if only because Johnny was the last small-government Democrat in the Oval.

And cue the trolls.  [cracks knuckles].  I'm ready.  Gimme all you got!

Not going to hate, but I wouldn't really call the President who advocated the "New Frontier" to be small government.

None of it would've passed were it not for LBJ.  LBJ rammed through Medicare, Medicaid, etc.  the only thing little boy blue would've done is expand NASA, and I'm okay with space corporatism, so long as theres a private sector by 1980s.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2012, 09:12:45 am »
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I would have cast my vote to Mr. Reagan, without question.
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2012, 10:18:17 am »
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Dont hate, but I prefer JFK's influence on the Democratic Party to Reagan's on the GOP, if only because Johnny was the last small-government Democrat in the Oval.

And cue the trolls.  [cracks knuckles].  I'm ready.  Gimme all you got!

Not going to hate, but I wouldn't really call the President who advocated the "New Frontier" to be small government.

None of it would've passed were it not for LBJ.  LBJ rammed through Medicare, Medicaid, etc.  the only thing little boy blue would've done is expand NASA, and I'm okay with space corporatism, so long as theres a private sector by 1980s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Frontier
Ummmm......the Kennedy Administration was known for being the most active administration since FDR's first term.  And for good reason.
Benefits expanded, city aid, water pollution control act, and agricultural acts to raise farmer incomes.

Sure, it's not the Great Society, but I wouldn't say that all of the government expansion happened under LBJ either.
So yes, NASA wasn't the only thing "little boy blue" expanded.

The idea of Kennedy as the "Do Nothing" is a myth.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2012, 05:49:05 pm »
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WJC reduced the size of government, Reagan and GWB increased it.
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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2012, 08:33:37 pm »
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I'd take Reagan because he did not force price controls on the steel industry for no good reason and use Vietnam to justify placing the price controls. However, Reagan was pretty bad too.
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2012, 08:55:07 pm »
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Dont hate, but I prefer JFK's influence on the Democratic Party to Reagan's on the GOP, if only because Johnny was the last small-government Democrat in the Oval.

And cue the trolls.  [cracks knuckles].  I'm ready.  Gimme all you got!

Not going to hate, but I wouldn't really call the President who advocated the "New Frontier" to be small government.

None of it would've passed were it not for LBJ.  LBJ rammed through Medicare, Medicaid, etc.  the only thing little boy blue would've done is expand NASA, and I'm okay with space corporatism, so long as theres a private sector by 1980s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Frontier
Ummmm......the Kennedy Administration was known for being the most active administration since FDR's first term.  And for good reason.
Benefits expanded, city aid, water pollution control act, and agricultural acts to raise farmer incomes.

Sure, it's not the Great Society, but I wouldn't say that all of the government expansion happened under LBJ either.
So yes, NASA wasn't the only thing "little boy blue" expanded.

The idea of Kennedy as the "Do Nothing" is a myth.

Oh I understand, but many of these were small, especially in comparison to his 2 immediate successors (Ford was a floundering flip-flipping fishy so I really don't know where to put him).  In my opinion JFK was more conservative than Nixon, Ford, Carter, and debatably Eisenhower.
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2012, 10:01:49 pm »
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Hatin' on Jerry Ford again...
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2012, 10:59:32 pm »
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Hatin' on Jerry Ford again...

Cuz he is...a naughty person.
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