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François Hollande (Parti Socialiste/Socialist Party)   -28 (50.9%)
Jean-Luc Mélenchon (Front Gauche/Left Front)   -27 (49.1%)
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Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2012, 10:32:20 pm »
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Well, since Le Pen is gone and there's no other options obviously Melenchon. In the real life I'm "rooting" for Hollande and hoping for FN gains at parliamentary level, for reasons that should be pretty obvious.

IRL it'd be emigration for me if France had sunk to that level, but anyways I'd expect you at least to realize that Communists are bad news and should never be supported in any circumstance.
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« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2012, 10:09:47 am »
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Well, since Le Pen is gone and there's no other options obviously Melenchon. In the real life I'm "rooting" for Hollande and hoping for FN gains at parliamentary level, for reasons that should be pretty obvious.

IRL it'd be emigration for me if France had sunk to that level, but anyways I'd expect you at least to realize that Communists are bad news and should never be supported in any circumstance.

Ordinarily not, but if it got to that point a nihilist approach might be appropriate. Want to get them run out? Give the lunatics what they want. As for real life Hollande winning would probably be for the best because it would put the mainstream right into disarray and allow for the "far right" to continue to make gains from their weakness.
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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2012, 10:25:57 am »
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Well, since Le Pen is gone and there's no other options obviously Melenchon. In the real life I'm "rooting" for Hollande and hoping for FN gains at parliamentary level, for reasons that should be pretty obvious.

IRL it'd be emigration for me if France had sunk to that level, but anyways I'd expect you at least to realize that Communists are bad news and should never be supported in any circumstance.

Ordinarily not, but if it got to that point a nihilist approach might be appropriate. Want to get them run out? Give the lunatics what they want. As for real life Hollande winning would probably be for the best because it would put the mainstream right into disarray and allow for the "far right" to continue to make gains from their weakness.

I'm not sure the "far right" should be making gains at this point - Marine basically purged every worthwhile part of her father's platform (eliminating the income tax, getting rid of regulations on small businesses, ending state secularism etc.).  Hollande winning might be for the best long-term because France is almost certain to default under his inevitable misrule (unless he's a major flip-flopper), which might *finally* begin to discredit leftist economic policies (though, knowing France, they'll probably think it was because he was insufficiently leftist).
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« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2012, 01:46:48 pm »
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One of the casualties of "moderation" admittedly. My thinking is that if it got to that point, the far Left (well farther left) appearing to have a serious shot would force the establishment to basically stamp out communism. France might actually improve. Or go down in flames but it would pretty much deserve what it got under this scenario anyway.
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« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2012, 01:52:36 pm »
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This thread has been very informative about some of our fellow posters.
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« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2012, 01:53:47 pm »
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One of the casualties of "moderation" admittedly. My thinking is that if it got to that point, the far Left (well farther left) appearing to have a serious shot would force the establishment to basically stamp out communism. France might actually improve. Or go down in flames but it would pretty much deserve what it got under this scenario anyway.

Just like they successfully stamped out the Lepenistes after 2002?
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« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2012, 07:12:41 pm »
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This thread has been very informative about some of our fellow posters.

It's all the more entertaining because these two have regular, daily conversations with each other over topics exactly like this and have no reason to make these posts back and forth in public except to put on a silly posturing show for the rest of us.
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« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2012, 09:30:07 pm »
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The poll above has 51-49 - don't think I could last after a defeat like that!
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« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2012, 10:23:26 am »
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And François Hollande has been elected President of the Atlasian Republic.
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« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2012, 04:04:28 am »
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This thread has been very informative about some of our fellow posters.
Nothing new, just some confirmations. This thread is quote goldmine.
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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2012, 03:26:19 pm »
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Null vote.

Please stop using Google Translate to speak french in your sig. The result is dreadful.

I wish I had seen this earlier.
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The world is becoming globalized, but cosmopolitanism is being hijacked by the Davos Man. What choice is left besides nationalism? The thought is terrifying, to be honest.

I just hope Trump doesn't turn into some kind of Berlusconi-esque Teflon man.
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