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« on: April 23, 2012, 10:40:28 pm »
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Numbers out tomorrow

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Our new NC Amendment One poll out tomorrow finds the vote by far the closest it's been to date

http://twitter.com/#!/ppppolls
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2012, 11:39:04 pm »
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Good to see we still have a chance of defeating this.

Though I suppose not much will change if it does pass.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 10:33:39 am »
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Good to see we still have a chance of defeating this.

I don't think we do. Even though this goes way beyond DOMA into Virginia territory for making legal relationships unworkable, people consistently vote as if it's only about marriage, unless it affects opposite-sex couples.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2012, 01:26:52 pm »
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If it fails by 1 vote, do I get to take credit for causing it to fail? Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2012, 02:57:55 pm »
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I think it has a chance of failing...

Most of my friends up at NC colleges are really campaigning hard against it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2012, 03:22:12 pm »
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Full poll: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_NC_424.pdf

54% support amendment
40% oppose amendment

28% support gay marriage
25% support civil unions
44% oppose any recognition for gay couples

36% know amendment would ban gay marriage and civil unions
26% thinks amendment only bans gay marriage
10% thinks amendment legalizes gay marriage
27% admit they don't know what amendment does

Once informed what Amendment One actually does:
38% support amendment
46% oppose amendment
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2012, 06:18:48 pm »
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So you inform everyone about the civil union component and it fails.


That, along with the potential legal issues resulting from the poorly worded language, caused me to vote nay, yesterday.
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2012, 06:38:17 pm »
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So you inform everyone about the civil union component and it fails.


That, along with the potential legal issues resulting from the poorly worded language, caused me to vote nay, yesterday.

Thanks! Good choice! Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2012, 06:44:14 pm »
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So you inform everyone about the civil union component and it fails.


That, along with the potential legal issues resulting from the poorly worded language, caused me to vote nay, yesterday.

Thanks! Good choice! Smiley

It is their own fault for trying to overeach by banning civil unions too and playing amateur hour on the construction.
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2012, 06:46:59 pm »
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According to a radio ad, Renee Elmer's primary opponent is claiming that she opposes amendment 1. Is that the case?
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2012, 06:49:25 pm »
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According to a radio ad, Renee Elmer's primary opponent is claiming that she opposes amendment 1. Is that the case?

Yes.

Here are a few other Republicans who oppose it.
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2012, 06:54:19 pm »
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NC Yankee,

Who did you vote for in the GOP primary for Lt. Governor, if you don't mind?

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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2012, 07:02:23 pm »
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That was the hardest one to decide.
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2012, 07:07:09 pm »
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Good to see we still have a chance of defeating this.

I don't think we do. Even though this goes way beyond DOMA into Virginia territory for making legal relationships unworkable, people consistently vote as if it's only about marriage, unless it affects opposite-sex couples.

Because it doesn't matter if it's marriage or whatever it's called, if it (beneficially) affects same-sex couples, a segment of the population will always vote it down.

Just once I'd love to see one of these amendments backfire on the people that vote for it. It'd never happen, but it would be sweet irony.
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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2012, 07:07:40 pm »
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I should have come on here to field opinions from the NC posters about the 3 Republicans running fro LG, as well as Secretary of State and Insurance Commissioner. Those three were really hard to make a choice based on the their websites and what little I could find.

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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2012, 07:09:30 pm »
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That was the hardest one to decide.

Yeah, that will be an interesting race. I've some of Dan Forest's ads on Youtube and he looks like he's trying to appeal to the tea party Republicans.

I'm pretty excited about Linda Coleman on my side.

If McCrory becomes Governor, having Coleman as Lt. Governor would be a nice consolation prize for me! Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2012, 02:11:49 pm »
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The poll out today was very consistent with their last poll.

This pretty much sums it up:

"Lack of voter understanding about how far reaching the amendment is continues to be the biggest obstacle for those hoping to defeat it. 55% of voters in the state support some form of legal recognition for gay couples in the form of either marriage or civil unions to only 41% completely opposed. But at the same time 55% of voters plan to support the amendment that would prohibit any legal recognition for same sex couples while only 41% are opposed."

This is why it will eventually be repealed if it passes:

"There continues to be a massive generational gap with seniors (60/36) strongly in support of the amendment and young voters (33/59) strongly opposed."
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2012, 03:11:23 pm »
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So people are voting for something they oppose? Why?
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2012, 03:17:32 pm »
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So people are voting for something they oppose? Why?

Basically, because they don't understand what the amendment does.

"...only 40% of voters actually know that the amendment bans both gay marriage and civil unions. With those voters the amendment is failing by a 60-38 margin. "
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2012, 05:20:40 pm »
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Just heard about this amendment today. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not really only about gay marriage. I saw the commercial running against the amendment and it basically said that if the amendment is passed, not only will it restrict rights for gay couples but also opposite sex couples in a domestic relationship- that's why the DA in the commercial was talking about a domestic abuse case between an unmarried man and woman.

If the opponents can educate people about the facts of the case and convince them that it's more than just a referendum on gay marriage, then they have a shot. But it looks like it'll be an uphill battle.
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2012, 06:49:49 pm »
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Yes.
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2012, 07:01:50 pm »
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Full results, with changes from last poll:

55% support amendment (+1)
41% oppose amendment (+1)

27% support gay marriage (-1)
28% support civil unions (+3)
41% oppose any recognition for gay couples (-3)

40% know amendment would ban gay marriage and civil unions (+4)
27% thinks amendment only bans gay marriage (+1)
7% thinks amendment legalizes gay marriage (-3)
26% admit they don't know what amendment does (-1)

Once informed what Amendment One actually does:
38% support amendment (no change)
46% oppose amendment (no change)
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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2012, 07:27:04 pm »
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SUSA has the amendment passing by a slightly worse 57-37.
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2012, 12:17:31 am »
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In PPP's final poll, its up 55-39.

Voters who actually know what the amendment does break against it 61-37.
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2012, 12:21:53 am »
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In PPP's final poll, its up 55-39.

Voters who actually know what the amendment does break against it 61-37.

I think the media in this country exists to make sure the voters are not informed.

Too bad that Jerry Brown wasn't attorney general  there to name it "Eliminates Rights of couples to have domestic partnerships Constitutional Amendment".
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